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Could it be that we have serial killers in our midst?
sheep
#41 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:44:11 AM
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Honestly I think he is possessed or he just let his mind slip away into the most darkest places beyond the point of return.

As regarding brain damage it reminds me of Phineas Gage

to quote "The equilibrium or balance, so to speak, between his intellectual faculties and animal propensities, seems to have been destroyed. He is fitful, irreverent, indulging at times in the grossest profanity (which was not previously his custom), manifesting but little deference for his fellows, impatient of restraint or advice when it conflicts with his desires, at times pertinaciously obstinate, yet capricious and vacillating, devising many plans of future operations, which are no sooner arranged than they are abandoned in turn for others appearing more feasible. A child in his intellectual capacity and manifestations, he has the animal passions of a strong man. Previous to his injury, although untrained in the schools, he possessed a well-balanced mind, and was looked upon by those who knew him as a shrewd, smart businessman, very energetic and persistent in executing all his plans of operation. In this regard his mind was radically changed, so decidedly that his friends and acquaintances said he was "no longer Gage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage
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Rahatupu
#42 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 1:21:35 PM
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@Nonefor1@Njunge, I go Poondi's way weka tyre. Period.
Kusadikika
#43 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:04:04 PM
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Njunge wrote:
For once,i thought i was watching Antony Hopkins in Silence of the lambs or as Hannibal Lecter from the movie Hannibal........this serial killer should be carefully profiled by all means even if it means "importing" experts.




Asha Njunge!! Experts akii, mooke matwire atia!! I think we have enough information to hang this man on the spot. Enough with legalities.

There is a sense of justice in all humans beings and while all people may not agree at all times, they do agree in extreme circumstances such as this. There is no philosophy, analysis or legal jargon that can change our mind on what this is. It is plain and clear, EVIL!!!!

I agree with those who think this evil spirit possesed man needs prayers.....actually I more than agree with them. This man needs a face to face conversation with God immediately that is why we need to send him on his way up there now!!!!

We need no further evidence or explanations or profile. Let the man be hanged or shot or ran over by a truck or dropped from the top of KICC or rolled in a beehive down the slopes of Mt. Kenya or boiled alive or drowned in Lake Victoria or fed to the lions in Maasai Mara..................Let his life be taken away and his name forgotten and his pictures and videos erased. Let there be no mention or even thought of his existence ever.
kenmac
#44 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:43:24 PM
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>> since this brat has a lot of experience in killing, I propose he be made the hangman in kamiti and kill those who have killed like him, the we can boil him as njung'e proposes...
......Ecclesiastes
sky5
#45 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:44:06 PM
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If this man was not working alone, who and where are the others? No one is safe until they are apprehended and taken to court.
suwan
#46 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:56:40 PM
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This serial killer stori....is it 2 different people....one who kills women only and the one who killed plus the two littel boys?
Could it be the same person?d'oh!
Njung'e
#47 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:00:54 PM
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@kusadikika,
Profiles have been used to solve murder mysteries and i guess that is the only use that idiot is of.We can boil him thereafter...lol.
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suwan
#48 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:04:14 PM
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The story in the press today was making it look like two people, however....kwanithey have similar characteristics...somebody explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mtu Biz
#49 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:15:24 PM
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@ Nanfor1.

I have read the data from the research paper you posted on left right and mid brain, it looks reasonable enough only one issue though, it is based on an assumption... not truth..let me illustrate

One imaginary elephant plus one imaginary elephant equals two imaginary elephants. This statement is correct but it is not TRUE. The sum of two imaginary things is nothing because the thing doesn't exist.

@Rahatupu and All

You said
"@Mtu Biz, don't try to upgrade this particular case to a philosophical issue, this is open and shut. CRIMINAL< HORRIBLE, ABOMINABLE< WRONG, IMMORAL irrespective of any school of thought period."

Rahatupu,what im saying is this. I agree with you that it is wrong.

But i want to challenge you to recognize that your sharp sense of right and wrong in this issue has a source a standard by which you measure right and wrong, good and evil and that standard is not your brain, otherwise the willful killing of innocent people by this man may be attributed to some brain disorder not of his own making and we would have no right or grounds to condemn him.....

I hope you see my point..




Sola Scriptura


suwan
#50 Posted : Thursday, June 10, 2010 3:24:26 PM
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r u all sure the serial killer is 4 real...mebb he has been working undrecover as a cop, so he has all the information and nopw he just wants to seek recognition, be famous and probably one day his story will be aired in crimje and investigations....probably with a heading like 'the african serial killer that was not'
carygoh
#51 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 8:48:45 AM
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he kills and kidnaps,am soo not shaking hands with any strangerShame on you
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Rahatupu
#52 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 10:03:07 AM
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Mtu Biz wrote:

@ Nanfor1.

I have read the data from the research paper you posted on left right and mid brain, it looks reasonable enough only one issue though, it is based on an assumption... not truth..let me illustrate

One imaginary elephant plus one imaginary elephant equals two imaginary elephants. This statement is correct but it is not TRUE. The sum of two imaginary things is nothing because the thing doesn't exist.

@Rahatupu and All

You said
"@Mtu Biz, don't try to upgrade this particular case to a philosophical issue, this is open and shut. CRIMINAL< HORRIBLE, ABOMINABLE< WRONG, IMMORAL irrespective of any school of thought period."

Rahatupu,what im saying is this. I agree with you that it is wrong.

But i want to challenge you to recognize that your sharp sense of right and wrong in this issue has a source a standard by which you measure right and wrong, good and evil and that standard is not your brain, otherwise the willful killing of innocent people by this man may be attributed to some brain disorder not of his own making and we would have no right or grounds to condemn him.....

I hope you see my point..





Ok emotions aside, Mtu Biz my reaction is attributed to this particular case only. Here is my take on ethics/moral sense of right and wrong:

An ethical or moral person is one who struggles with her or his decision, trying to decide if her actions will have a negative effect on others. most of us agree that causing harm is wrong, and should be avoided. Causing harm to whom or what and under what circumstances varies drastically from person to person.

Which brings me to where absolutes apply in their normative form:
1. Criminal murder,
2. Violent crime e.g rape, arson among others.

These are internationally applicable, refer to Naom Chomsky, Johnathan Haidt.
Much Know
#53 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 10:27:11 AM
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Have you noticed there is a kiddo posting on this thread? Just read the posts on this page the kiddo has posted twice Lol, ni mtoi wako mlefu? Or msotovilles ka-brat? Laughing out loudly
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mlefu
#54 Posted : Friday, June 11, 2010 10:42:15 AM
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was jumping pages on my daily nation hoping to meet a headline reading "expression of interests" GOK is looking in to recruiting qualified candidates to profile the said watchman...@much-know can helpsmile ..been there done it and i believe you know the lifeLaughing out loudly !!!!

keep him alive at Nyayo house, he leads you to the rest and Kenyans will feel safer.
doubtfire
#55 Posted : Saturday, June 12, 2010 4:11:27 PM
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the more the guy reveal where he dumped the bodies the more painful it becames to their families and fear among kenyans.why are we keeping this guyd'oh! .have you ever though what this guy will do if he manage to escape?
FundamentAli
#56 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2010 11:05:25 AM
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Questions are now being asked. Did the police do enough? Reports in yesterday's nation show how police will not act on anything kama hakuna pesa.
kamau@capitalcredit.co.ke
#57 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2010 3:25:40 PM
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We should just slice this killer into small pieces start from his toes
Wendz
#58 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2010 4:23:06 PM
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Much Know wrote:
Have you noticed there is a kiddo posting on this thread? Just read the posts on this page the kiddo has posted twice Lol, ni mtoi wako mlefu? Or msotovilles ka-brat? Laughing out loudly


@Much know
You are very right.

@all

Assuming that true he had accomplices, that it is true there is such a cult, that it is true these killings were in form of rituals, my main worry is, how many Onyancha's are out there that are just one level cleverer than this Onyancha we have not to get caught and who are going about their businesses knowing too well that the police force we have is way too lazy to do any investigations? It could actually be the guard in your building. Will we be working late anymore? it could be your makanga - will you be the last one to alight anymore? or even your shopkeeper, your gardener or may be the househelp? It could even be your husband! Daaaaamn!!!! now this is just sickening!
Rahatupu
#59 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2010 5:52:43 PM
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@Fundamentali, very sad indeed. The police as lethargic as usual, casual, assuming and yes arrogant, same thing like what happened in USA in the 1980s when clue after clue were ignored by police in the adventures of one John Wayne Gacey
Fundaah
#60 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2010 6:04:22 PM
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I see a solution in the Draft constitution on the police force ...vote YES and you will be better served as the face of police will change ...we will have more motivated officers...who will serve you better ....Im at loss when people say the do not want the Draft to pass...if it fails ....do not complain..endelea kuvumilia kuwa mkenya.....Fungueni macho
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