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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Drobos fly wrote:...It's not my work to save people or to open their eyes, it's my work to share the Word of God as I know it and have learnt it. Why don't you share the below Word? Why are you hiding this verse from them or you do no not know it or never learnt it? “ In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/24/2012 Posts: 331 Location: Vantage point
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AlphDoti wrote:
Why don't you share the below Word? Why are you hiding this verse from them or you do no not know it or never learnt it?
“In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)
I have realized even in your responses, you always misquote me or misinterpret me. Seriously! How I'm I hiding if I have come out clearly and declared my stand on immorality????????????????? Your problem is now quite clear to me. I actually have a verse that defines the likes of you and I truly hope you have the capacity not to miss the point this time. 1 Timothy 1:7-11"...desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm. But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust". Unfortunately for you I'm not one to engage further someone who has a mis in their responses ( misunderstand, misquote misinformation, misconstrue and misrepresent). So I'm goint to leave you with that, if it helps you fine, if it leaves you itching to get back... we'll too bad, you have a reputation of missing the point!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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iko wapi ile video.... All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Drobos fly wrote:AlphDoti wrote:
Why don't you share the below Word? Why are you hiding this verse from them or you do no not know it or never learnt it?
“In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.” (Romans 1:27)
I have realized even in your responses, you always misquote me or misinterpret me. Seriously! How I'm I hiding if I have come out clearly and declared my stand on immorality????????????????? Your problem is now quite clear to me. I actually have a verse that defines the likes of you and I truly hope you have the capacity not to miss the point this time. 1 Timothy 1:7-11"...desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm. But we know that the law is good if one uses it lawfully, knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous person, but for the lawless and insubordinate, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, for fornicators, for sodomites, for kidnappers, for liars, for perjurers, and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust". Unfortunately for you I'm not one to engage further someone who has a mis in their responses ( misunderstand, misquote misinformation, misconstrue and misrepresent). So I'm goint to leave you with that, if it helps you fine, if it leaves you itching to get back... we'll too bad, you have a reputation of missing the point! Laugh! Dorobos fly, about time! It took you long enough to know this mistake of a man. Good for you that you finally did. Laugh!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Kleptomania
Definition
Kleptomania (klep-toe-MAY-nee-uh) is the recurrent failure to resist urges to steal items that you generally don't really need and that usually have little value. Kleptomania is a serious mental health disorder that can cause much emotional pain to you and your loved ones if not treated. I know who a Kleptomaniac is... I KNEW ABOUT IT IN PRIMARY SCHOOL! (Student's companion anyone?... but I digress) yeah... to steal whose stuff? I can see how it would be undesirable to have someone around me stealing MY STUFF!! regardless of what his excuse is... it's my stuff. if a kleptomaniac stole his stuff... sioni shida. or even better they got into a club where they allowed each other to steal from each other but to no one outside that group - it's none of my business. Don't you see - your rights end where mine begin! their right to express and fulfill their urges end where mine begin. so back again... how are your rights being infringed? Ati your rights do what! The society is rotting, slowly but surely...
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/26/2011 Posts: 181 Location: Nairobi
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That wraps it down nicely! how religion poisons everything; including such an important topic as transgender... First time in history we can save the human race by laying in front of the TV and doing nothing. Let's not screw it up
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/24/2012 Posts: 331 Location: Vantage point
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Anti_Burglar wrote:
Laugh!
Dorobos fly, about time! It took you long enough to know this mistake of a man. Good for you that you finally did. Laugh!
 No, no, no, no... I already knew that, it's just that I'm fond of handling matters in a diplomatic way but hapa ilibidi nichafue kuchafua dakika ya mwisho. I could actually have gone all DEFCON 1 bibilically from the get go but when someone is narrowly fixated in mindset, engaging them will be a waste of my words and time, I choose my responses accordingly. Do you know why? We have these exact characters laid out in the bible... here:-
Luke 16:27 - 31“Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”
There are some who are just hard of hearing doesn't matter who's addressing them, they just won't listen and when they do they miss the point. On that note something else to consider for those with time to watch:-
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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@Anti_Burglar, @Drobos et al...
You have legalized sodomy (men to men). Lesbian legalized... Polygamy which is the most natural you put the man in jail... If a man begets dozen illegitimate children (from mpango wa kando) every year you regard him a stud, he is a great guy! But he can beget dozen bastard children...
So I think there is sth wrong with your thinking...
You're brainwashed...
For example, 300k sodomites in US are allowed in San Francisco legal. Led by lesbians, legal! NY 1/3 of men are gay, legal. And million woman can't get husbands and if she's prepared to share a husband with another woman, you want to put them in jail.
There is sth wrong with your mentality...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:@Anti_Burglar, @Drobos et al...
You have legalized sodomy (men to men). Lesbian legalized... Polygamy which is the most natural you put the man in jail... If a man begets dozen illegitimate children (from mpango wa kando) every year you regard him a stud, he is a great guy! But he can beget dozen bastard children...
So I think there is sth wrong with your thinking...
You're brainwashed...
For example, 300k sodomites in US are allowed in San Francisco legal. Led by lesbians, legal! NY 1/3 of men are gay, legal. And million woman can't get husbands and if she's prepared to share a husband with another woman, you want to put them in jail.
There is sth wrong with your mentality... I agree with you in a way - especially when it comes to polygamy! what grown ups decide to do should be no one's business especially if they don't want anything from you! kama hakuli kwako! hawaishi kwako... shida yako ni nini?? Let people do what they want!! some people may say... oh society will die!... oh society will be no more! Nani alikufanya Yesu eti ubebe mzigo wa society yote? Wewe ni nani? who told you itakufa? hata ikifa... shida yako ni nini? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Whatever.
Cutting ones nose to spite ones face is fine with some. Ati agreeing with nonsensical sentiment ati I have legalised whatever, just to be contrary. Knock yourself out, free world it is. Lets see you do what you want where Alphdoti and his ilk are on the ascendancy, being the majority. That is what and where it matters, not Wazua pahala pa domo domo.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:Whatever.
Cutting ones nose to spite ones face is fine with some. Ati agreeing with nonsensical sentiment ati I have legalised whatever, just to be contrary. Knock yourself out, free world it is. Lets see you do what you want where Alphdoti and his ilk are on the ascendancy, being the majority. That is what and where it matters, not Wazua pahala pa domo domo. Now you're talking " free world" Why do you even dare condemn @burglar when he tells you that you don't really believe anything your Bible says, all is for beautification and rhetoric? Why do you care carry that book under your arm to church on Sunday when you do not care what is written in it! See what the Bible says about those human beings who have become lesbians and homosexuals: 'Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPPED and SERVED the creature (like men and monkeys) more than the Creator...' "BECAUSE THEY DO THIS (worshiping men and monkeys), God has given them over to shameful passions. "In the same way... the men burn with passion for one another (as sodomites and homosexuals)... ROMANS 1:25-27
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Whatever.
Cutting ones nose to spite ones face is fine with some. Ati agreeing with nonsensical sentiment ati I have legalised whatever, just to be contrary. Knock yourself out, free world it is. Lets see you do what you want where Alphdoti and his ilk are on the ascendancy, being the majority. That is what and where it matters, not Wazua pahala pa domo domo. Now you're talking " free world" Why do you even dare condemn @burglar when he tells you that you don't really believe anything your Bible says, all is for beautification and rhetoric? Why do you care carry that book under your arm to church on Sunday when you do not care what is written in it! See what the Bible says about those human beings who have become lesbians and homosexuals: 'Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPPED and SERVED the creature (like men and monkeys) more than the Creator...' "BECAUSE THEY DO THIS (worshiping men and monkeys), God has given them over to shameful passions. "In the same way... the men burn with passion for one another (as sodomites and homosexuals)... ROMANS 1:25-27 Condemn Hamburglar? Me? Where? Oh, yes, right. In your head. Get a life bratha. Get a life. Get a 9yo girl or 9 virgins in batches of 8 or something.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Whatever.
Cutting ones nose to spite ones face is fine with some. Ati agreeing with nonsensical sentiment ati I have legalised whatever, just to be contrary. Knock yourself out, free world it is. Lets see you do what you want where Alphdoti and his ilk are on the ascendancy, being the majority. That is what and where it matters, not Wazua pahala pa domo domo. Now you're talking " free world" Why do you even dare condemn @burglar when he tells you that you don't really believe anything your Bible says, all is for beautification and rhetoric? Why do you care carry that book under your arm to church on Sunday when you do not care what is written in it! See what the Bible says about those human beings who have become lesbians and homosexuals: 'Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPPED and SERVED the creature (like men and monkeys) more than the Creator...' "BECAUSE THEY DO THIS (worshiping men and monkeys), God has given them over to shameful passions. "In the same way... the men burn with passion for one another (as sodomites and homosexuals)... ROMANS 1:25-27 Condemn Hamburglar? Me? Where? Oh, yes, right. In your head. Get a life bratha. Get a life. Get a 9yo girl or 9 virgins in batches of 8 or something. Get correct knowledge before you write or spew stuff from your head... You'll end miserable in your myths... You try to associate yourself with @Hamburglar, but he's way far, coz he never speaks folk tales like you've just done hapo juu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Come on friends, don't speak so lightly about 'myths' and 'folk tales'.
After all, aren't all these positions of contention we're presenting, myths and folk tales?
And can we give some respect to the 'trans'? The people who'd identify with such a brand, because they are human?
How can we talk about other humans; who don't subscribe to our myths and tales? Civilization is about meeting other humans with and in love.
We must be critical in our appreciation of our heritage, knowing that contexts are always changing. Discourse is always getting more complicated and global. Universal perhaps.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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tycho wrote:Come on friends, don't speak so lightly about 'myths' and 'folk tales'.
After all, aren't all these positions of contention we're presenting, myths and folk tales?
And can we give some respect to the 'trans'? The people who'd identify with such a brand, because they are human?
How can we talk about other humans; who don't subscribe to our myths and tales? Civilization is about meeting other humans with and in love.
We must be critical in our appreciation of our heritage, knowing that contexts are always changing. Discourse is always getting more complicated and global. Universal perhaps. lol. Some friends might as well be myths.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Whatever.
Cutting ones nose to spite ones face is fine with some. Ati agreeing with nonsensical sentiment ati I have legalised whatever, just to be contrary. Knock yourself out, free world it is. Lets see you do what you want where Alphdoti and his ilk are on the ascendancy, being the majority. That is what and where it matters, not Wazua pahala pa domo domo. Now you're talking " free world" Why do you even dare condemn @burglar when he tells you that you don't really believe anything your Bible says, all is for beautification and rhetoric? Why do you care carry that book under your arm to church on Sunday when you do not care what is written in it! See what the Bible says about those human beings who have become lesbians and homosexuals: 'Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and WORSHIPPED and SERVED the creature (like men and monkeys) more than the Creator...' "BECAUSE THEY DO THIS (worshiping men and monkeys), God has given them over to shameful passions. "In the same way... the men burn with passion for one another (as sodomites and homosexuals)... ROMANS 1:25-27 Condemn Hamburglar? Me? Where? Oh, yes, right. In your head. Get a life bratha. Get a life. Get a 9yo girl or 9 virgins in batches of 8 or something. Get correct knowledge before you write or spew stuff from your head... You'll end miserable in your myths... You try to associate yourself with @Hamburglar, but he's way far, coz he never speaks folk tales like you've just done hapo juu lol. See ya, bratha.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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You're right @swenani.... I REPEAT TWO POINTS: 1. for those parents who want to prevent this from happening to their children, please separate your children from bed from age 7. Protect their innocence. DO NOT create an opportunity for them to experiment on unnatural stuff. 2. beware of those "uncles" and "aunties" who come to visit or stay in your house. Because some of them might be active practitioners... DO NOT let anyone sleep in your children's room. If you don't have visitors room for the visiting uncles, let them sleep in the living room for day or two.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/24/2012 Posts: 331 Location: Vantage point
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That's the best advice so far in this thread. It demonstrates your sense of morality. It is very sad that one of my close friend's experience living in Kileleshwa was that he had a close buddy who they were tight with since they grew up together. Over the years, this buddy developed gangster habits of robbing from people. My friend reached out to him to change his ways and seek God and also prayed dearly for this guy. Later on it seemed to fall on deaf ears but my friend didn't give up on him and persisted. A few months ago, he sorrowfully broke to me the sad news of his buddy having been gunned down in Kileleshwa after a robbery gone bad. He was deeply distraught. All I can say, yes prayers do help but there are those cases where God's Spirit will not strive with man any longer, but will give them up to their ways and let them be consumed to their destruction. Lets just hope they have not crossed the line of no return.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Drobos fly wrote:That's the best advice so far in this thread. It demonstrates your sense of morality. It is very sad that one of my close friend's experience living in Kileleshwa was that he had a close buddy who they were tight with since they grew up together. Over the years, this buddy developed gangster habits of robbing from people. My friend reached out to him to change his ways and seek God and also prayed dearly for this guy. Later on it seemed to fall on deaf ears but my friend didn't give up on him and persisted. A few months ago, he sorrowfully broke to me the sad news of his buddy having been gunned down in Kileleshwa after a robbery gone bad. He was deeply distraught. All I can say, yes prayers do help but there are those cases where God's Spirit will not strive with man any longer, but will give them up to their ways and let them be consumed to their destruction. Lets just hope they have not crossed the line of no return. God is not a respector of persons, and can choose to have anyone, anytime regardless of their will.. Think Saul, the persecutor of Christians, think Jonah, the runnaway, even the thief on the cross next to Jesus.. Why some seemingly die in sin, whilst others are 'forcibly' called into salvation is mambo ya Mungu
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