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Drama at Equity Bank
mukiha
#21 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:48:58 AM
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Good people!

Cool down your tempers!

Thank God this is an online forum; else we'd see punches exchanged!

Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
mukiha
#22 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:49:53 AM
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BTW: A tiger never pronounces its "tigritude"; it pounces!
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
bird_man
#23 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:10:19 AM
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By the way,just a thought.....I mostly avoid complaining about companies and their staff.In most cases I just switch to a competitor....unless its a monopoly. We have over 30 banks.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
Scubidu
#24 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:38:27 AM
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@bird_man. The question is, was this restructuring unique to Equity Bank (leave alone CFC Stanbic for now) or will the next competitor we run to, start their own round of layoffs and cost cutting?
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
gathinga
#25 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:57:56 AM
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chaliwong wrote:
What equity is doing now is what they should have done eons ago.
This counter is very lucrative but for those of us who strictly believe in fundamentals,and by this I dont mean the balance sheet growth but the management of the company, then I would look at it twice.
The new innitiatives in banking that this bank comes up with are very lucrative especiaally in growing their liabilities but they can only make good profits if they manage them proffessionally which I dont think they do starting with their recruitment process.
-Their compliance department is their greatest undiong espesially in giving unsecured loans to the self employed.
-In some branches they will indirectly tell you to part with TKK so that your loan can move fast of which if you can part with something small you will get a loan faster than if you have the ability to repay it.Some time back heads have rolled for this.
-Also,the compliance department at the branch level credits your account directly once the loan is approved at the branch.In other banks that have been in this market for long, creditng of loans is done from a central place at the head office after another compliance team goes thru your application.
-If a customer applies for an ATM card,once the card is processed,both the card and the PIN are held at the branch.(Banks with experience in this will hold the card and mail the PIN to your address i.e if they are not processing the card for you as you wait to put your own PIN).This is another avenue for inhouse fraud to occur.
-I think their idea of merging their compliance department with other departments is ill adviced.
-They would have scrapped other irrelevant departments and used this resources to strengthen their compliance and controls department if they have one.Their aggressive lending requires an idependent compliance department better than the one they have currently.Bila compliance pesa zita endelea kupotea.May be this shake up ni juu pesa zimepotea or Bad Debts zime ongezeka.
-This bank has very good ideas but there is so much they have been taking for granted and if the time to bring order has come then be it.

VituVingiSana
#26 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:59:35 AM
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I like Equity Bank as an investment at the right price. It is very dynamic & growing in Kenya, Uganda & Tanzania.

Lakini for my own banking needs (like some other jamaas here) I moved to I&M Bank coz of service. This mambo ya lines... I am not a fan of mlolongos...

I used to be with CFC lakini after the 'merger' with Stanbic I got tired of being treated like a second-class citizen...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mapengo
#27 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 3:57:55 PM
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this is a good counter to watch...awaiting their year end the reset about restructuring and merger of departments is normal within any organisation... this could be part of they could be under a lot of pressure to reduce costs from the shareholders...
poundfoolish
#28 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:15:57 PM
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@Mukiha... u misquote a quote...

"A tiger does not proclaim its tigritude- it pounces!" Wole Soyinka.


"I said: "A tiger does not proclaim his tigritude, he pounces". In other words: a tiger does not stand in the forest and say: "I am a tiger". When you pass where the tiger has walked before, you see the skeleton of the duiker, you know that some tigritude has been emanated there." Soyinka
VituVingiSana
#29 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 5:49:39 AM
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Lakini... there are no (native) tigers in Africa...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
QD
#30 Posted : Friday, January 22, 2010 5:52:54 AM
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En guys who is a tiger in this case? Equity ama????
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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