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Scubidu
#41 Posted : Wednesday, March 17, 2010 9:04:34 AM
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Some bank heads at the Fed are conflicted as to when to raise interest rates in response to expected strong economic conditions. Read more:

http://moneynews.com/Fin...es/2010/03/16/id/352925

Tyler Durden (my favourite anarchist) at zero hedge has an interesting article on the money multiplier (M3/Monetary Base) in the US in 2009. In the Kenyan context the money multiplier (money supply/reserves) has grown from 4.0 in December 2000 to 5.3 in December 2005 to 6.0 as at January 2010. Reserves are want commercial banks use to gauge their lending...leverage...the more reserves you have the more you can lend.

In 2008 it peaked at 6.1 in April 2008 during Safcom IPO, which is when the CBK used policy tools reverse repo and term auction facility to prop up the monetary base. In 2009 it peaked twice in April 2009 and October 2009. In response to the April 2009 peak the CBK began pumping reserves in May 2009 and began spending more money in November 2009 to counter the October peak.

The situation in the US is a little different considering the expansion of the monetary base in 2008 and the Fed paying interest on excess reserves. The money multiplier in the US is 0.95. The multiplier ended up this way because reserves injected in no longer stimulated credit expansion. Read more in the article below:

http://www.zerohedge.com...ults-only-79-cent-increa
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#42 Posted : Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:12:08 PM
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Zero hedge blog picks out an interesting perspective from another blogger who highlights the money creation principle...the fact that banks create credit. This principle was covered very well on page 6 of the document below:

http://www.scribd.com/do.../MODERN-MONEY-MECHANICS

The president/CEO of New York Fed added further explanation in a speech saying "Based on how monetary policy has been conducted for several decades, banks have always had the ability to expand credit whenever they like. They don't need a pile of "dry tinder" in the form of excess reserves to do so. That is because the Federal Reserve has committed itself to supply sufficient reserves to keep the fed funds rate at its target..." .

The statement above reflects action of our CBK, enabling banks to lend to the govt at Tbond auctions then providing them with enough reserves to keep interbank rates low.

The blogger also noted the suggestion by Ben Bernanke in the February 2010 Fed monetary statement concerning the elimination of all reserve requirements. Reserves are want enable banks to lend to their customers. We covered this in post 11 in this thread looking at the Kenyan context and asked the question does Kenya or any banking system globally need to keep reserves?

Bernanke statement gives us an idea on his stance by saying "The Federal Reserve believes it is possible that, ultimately, its operating framework will allow the elimination of minimum reserve requirements, which impose costs and distortions on the banking system".

Read more below:

http://www.zerohedge.com...eate-credit-out-thin-air
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#43 Posted : Friday, March 19, 2010 1:56:56 PM
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Bob Prechter, Elliot Wave Theory president, questions that relationship between stocks and bonds...more specially the assumption that they compete with each other through some sort of inverse relationship. He tries to explain how this theory may not be realistic in the real world by charting graphs showing interest rates vs index movements during economic depressions. This is important to understand what happens to the market when interest rates are zero bound (going to 0%).

Read the article and see the graphs below:

http://www.elliottwave.c...-Is-Not-In-Control.aspx

Excerpt from the article

Bob shows this close-up of the history of the four biggest stock market declines of the past 100 years and continues:

"In ALL of these cases, interest rates fell and in two of those cases, they went all the way to zero! In those cases, investors should have traded ALL their bonds for stocks. But they didn't; instead, they sold stocks and bought bonds. To conclude, events and conditions do not make investors behave in any particular way that can be identified. Economists who assert a relationship (1) believe in their bedrock theory and (2) never check the data."
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
guru267
#44 Posted : Friday, March 19, 2010 3:38:59 PM
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@scubidu i'm a very big fan of economic theory more than financial theory

the reason why stocks and bonds plunge together during a recession can be explained simply by the central banks desire to create a loose monetary environment hence slashing lending rates and causing bond coupons to fall and then there is the investors desire for investment safety....

what the charts and curves dont show you is that all the cheap money in circulation as a result of low rates has led to all the stock market rallies and left bond coupon rates behind...

just look at the DOW, FTSE, CAC, DAX and there corresponding bond rates since march 2009
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Scubidu
#45 Posted : Friday, March 19, 2010 4:21:04 PM
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@guru267. Well that makes a lot of sense. They don't teach you that kind of stuff at uni though, huh. I'm also a fan of economic theory and desperately trying to link it to Kenya, so I can understand it from a local perspective.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#46 Posted : Sunday, March 21, 2010 8:07:10 PM
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Banking terminology varies from country to country but you must recognise the accepted use of certain key terms. A familiar term is the reverse repo, which is a transaction central bank's use to add liquidity? by using certain bank assets as collateral. The transaction is a little confusing, the CBK creates new cash reserves, lends them to a bank through a bank deposit, while CBK simultaneously creates a liability on itself and temporarily takes charge of a bank asset (discounted security).

The Fed statement to congress is a rich source of information as it reveals the key tools it uses to manage liquidity in the banking system. Read more below:

http://www.federalreserv...rnanke20100210a.htm#fn9

The following is an extract from the statement above "...reverse repos, a method that the Federal Reserve has used historically as a means of absorbing reserves from the banking system. In a reverse repo, the Federal Reserve sells a security to a counterpary with an agreement to repurchase the security at some date in the future. The counterparty's payment to the Federal Reserve has the effect of draining an equal quantity of reserves from the banking system."

So the question now is whether the repo market's core function is to drain or add liquidity? The Fed explanation above implies that reverse repos drain liquidity. In Kenya the reverse repo has been used to provide banks with reserves to meet CBK's targets.

However, this is not only method the CBK can use add liquidity. According to the latest CBK weekly bulletin "Central Bank stayed out of the market...reverse repo maturities amounted to Ksh2.6 billion during the week under review. The resultant net liquidity of Ksh2.6 billion was offset by government spending". It seems very crucial for the gok not to spend too much when these liquidity-adding instruments are in use.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#47 Posted : Friday, April 09, 2010 10:08:58 AM
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Turns out not all the branches of the Federal Reserve Bank are in agreement that interest rates should kept low as it encourages risky behavior. These are the sentiments of Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank President Thomas Hoenig.

Hoenig is a voter on the Fed's policy setting panel this year and has dissented against the Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke and the U.S. central bank's promise to hold rates exceptionally low for an extended period, arguing it is no longer necessary for the Fed to tie its hands while the economy recovers.

He said on Wednesday the Fed could raise rates to around 1 percent, which would keep borrowing costs at historically low levels while sending a signal that easy money policies put in place during the crisis are steadily being pulled back.

"The time is right to put the market on notice that it must again manage its risk, be accountable for its actions, and cease its reliance on assurances that the Federal Reserve, not they, will manage the risks they must deal with in a market economy," Hoenig said.

Read more:

http://moneynews.com/Hea...LES/2010/04/07/id/355044
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#48 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 8:09:49 AM
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Serious drop in rates on government paper. Anyone seen the latest results from 182/364 auctions. Read more below:

http://www.centralbank.g...ills/manualresults.aspx

364 T-bill oversubscribed by 276%, 182 by 258%.
Some serious bids, 15b for 182, 21b for 364.
Rates failing fast, 140bp for 364 and 49bp for 182. I think the 91D was doing 5.5% last week, this week 182 is doing 5.4%...interesting.

Where will interest rates reach? Whose buying all this stuff?
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#49 Posted : Friday, April 16, 2010 10:05:53 AM
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I think these rates are going to continue the nose dive...perhaps the low inflation expectations are contributing. 182 has fallen faster but also attracted more players, may be that explains the spread.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#50 Posted : Friday, April 23, 2010 6:42:01 AM
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Well I stand corrected claiming that there was no demand on 91 T-bills...results have come in. Read more below:

http://www.centralbank.g...ills/manualresults.aspx

Highlights
Bids over 10 b for the offered 3.5 b issue
Subscription rates at 306%
Interest rate down to 4.9% down 64bp
Spread between 91 and 182 paper back up to 50bp from 20bp 2 weeks ago

I remember the arbitrage debate we had a while ago, CBK is sending a strong signal to the banks on paying the spread (repo rate at 2.4%). I'm guessing u'll see a lot of government spending in the next CBK weekly reports cos the reserve balances were pretty low last I looked.
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
mkonomtupu
#51 Posted : Friday, April 23, 2010 7:19:25 AM
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Interest rates at 4.9%. We are back to the Mwiraria days but at least this time the fall is gradual. It does not make sense for banks to put cash in T-bills when they can earn more on lending overdrafts. So more lending by banks more cash in the economy and We should expect a bull run on the equities.
Scubidu
#52 Posted : Friday, May 21, 2010 9:51:28 AM
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T-bill at 3.998% just shy of 3.7% inflation. Will they push it further down below inflation. Both auctions this week oversubscribed 8.4 billion and 18.7 billion for T-bills and T-bonds. are banks that liquid? I don't think so, let's see how much omo support they'll receive from CBK next week monday.

Can T-bill go lower than interbank/reverse repo rate, that would mean a subsidy of 0%. Why are banks putting money in T-bills? These are not productive savings being lent from the public this is simply bank credit and we know how easy that is to do. Banks are not taking the risk on an economy that is expected to grow by 4.5% this year, doesn't make much sense.

See the auction results this week:

http://www.centralbank.g...ills/manualresults.aspx
http://www.centralbank.g...bonds/manualresults.aspx
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#53 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:12:35 AM
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Almost missed this. Analysts highlight the principals in monetizing budget deficit. CBK buys old bonds to enable banks to buy new bonds. CBK can't buy directly and public don't have enough savings to channel to Treasury coughers. The trick here is to add liquidity, when needed, to exploit the money multiplier.

What's interesting is what would be the floor for the T-bill? Looks like some experts speculate it'll be equivalent to interbank rate/reverse repo. But this only seems to work if the policy is expansionary, non? We covered this topic in posts 9-11, posts 14-17.

Excerpt from BD article:

The spread between reverse repo and the t-bill (difference between the rates of the two) is also going to be a major determinant of the depth to which t-bill levels will sink.

Analysts say that CBK could also decide to ignore inflation as the anchor or floor for the t-bill rate and go for the reverse repo – instrument which commercial banks acquire cash from the CBK to meet temporary liquidity needs – which is currently at about 2.6 per cent that is more or less close to the repo (at which CBK mops cash from the market) rate.

Read more:

http://www.businessdaily...1/-/d7oxf9z/-/index.html
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
kizee
#54 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 10:54:17 AM
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tbill can go as low as cbk want it...in 03 we hit 0.95pct...cbk are hell bent to drive lending rates lower
Scubidu
#55 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 11:34:34 AM
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@Kizee. You're right they could theoretically bring it back to 1% but at 2% they could not borrow on reverse repo to do it. They'll be taking incredible liquidity risk for little reward, non? (as we can see CBK cannot be trusted to spend into clearing accounts). You're saying there's no floor?
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
kizee
#56 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:05:06 PM
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the floor is zero i gues..ama 0.95 from past trends...i just dont think theres that much room for lower rates..unless we see sustained +7pct growth i dont see wher the monetary expansion to cause such over supply wud come from.....lakini cbk cud do anytg...they can cut the tendor amounts on tbills stay out of reverse repo-heck even do repos...etc..basically force banks to lend
kizee
#57 Posted : Tuesday, May 25, 2010 5:08:58 PM
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theres a floor..zero or 0.95 as per the past...im not of the view that we see further lowering...unless the cbk forces the rats lower...as ive said many times before..a repo shud never ever be a borrowing tool...a repo is an OMO tool...they cud actually tailor theyr cbr around repo rates( maybe a few basis points below) that way cbr wud have a stronger signallin effect...either way...cbk can do whatever...ive been in this mkt in 03 and 05 and saw rates crush to 0.95 and move from 2pct to 15pct in a week...cbk can do anytg they wont my frd
Scubidu
#58 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:10:33 PM
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Excellent article in the BD on bond prices and the upcoming IFRB issue. Highlights of the article and some comments:

The Sh31 billion nine-year bond, which comes with a three per cent discount for early exit, marked yet another signal of the CBK’s preference for lower lending rates and is expected to become the benchmark for upcoming corporate bond issues in the coming months.

Just a year ago 9 year paper was going at 11.6% and now it's 6.0%. Good signal for lending rates (and corporate bonds) but also good for debt service (it's 31 billion at 6.0% and not 11.6%-tax free, so interest is lower)

These low yields for short and medium term securities are expected to make lending to government less attractive for commercial banks intensify the drive for private sector and household lending where the returns are much higher.

Low yield to make govt securities less attractive for commercial banks. Crowding out effect. But are some banks still reluctant to lend to ordinary borrowers. Take SCBK and its cosmetic efforts to prop up its capital base; By Q1 of 2010 it was lending more to govt than ordinary folks (deja vu of 2003). In that case it's not buying bonds for liquidity or returns, but to keep it's capital above board. same for kcb.

Should the ongoing decline in subscription rate continue, analysts said the CBK will have to pump more money into the market or adjust its pricing upwards triggering a rise in the pricing of private sector bonds, a rise in bank deposits rates and ultimately higher lending rates.
“The CBK might need to pump liquidity into the market to ensure that this offer is fully taken up,” said Resa Imbuye, the head of research at Co-op Trust Investment Services Ltd.


CBK already has begun pumping money in and raised the 182 T-bill (a rate using as a benchmark for some commercial papers). A rise in deposit rates would cause an equivalent rise in lending rates (I recall my last monthly bank statement from CFC Stanbic Bank, "we are proud to inform you that the group lending rates have dropped 1% and accordingly the saving rate has also been dropped by 1%").

A decline in cost of funds (deposit rates) has been the main driver of the recent cuts in lending rates contrary to the common belief that they are responding to the Central Bank’s signal as expressed through the CBR cuts.

Read more:

http://www.businessdaily...30/-/7jhdkc/-/index.html
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#59 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:45:55 PM
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Is the era of zero interest rates over? Not quite yet? The Department of Housing and Urban Development in the US is going to dish out free money to unemployed homeowners. Would this be great in Kenya?

Read more:

http://www.zerohedge.com...ns-distressed-homeowners
“We are the middle children of history man, no purpose or place. We have no great war, no great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war, our great depression is our lives!" – Tyler Durden
Scubidu
#60 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:34:33 PM
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Interesting article in the BD today about govt auctions and cost of funds. The short term rates were brought down as a disincentive to banks so as to encourage a lowering of lending rates. But why did they floor at the rate they did (1.7%)?

Perhaps inflation has something to do with it. But not likely. The correlation is good but all short term rates offer negative returns but are still being subscribed. Perhaps the subject of the article, the cost of funds, holds the answer. Why lend to govt at any rate below the interbank, there' no profit incentive, opportunity cost.

Read more:
http://www.businessdaily.../-/10lehjn/-/index.html

China just dumped record amounts of U.S. Treasuries

http://www.thedailycrux....t/5530/US_Treasuries/eml
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