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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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hardwood wrote:The plot thickens.... https://www.k24tv.co.ke/...iscoveries-murgor-8862/
Quote:Addressing journalists at his office in Ecobank Towers, Nairobi on Saturday, September 14, Murgor said in a 17-day search operation by DCI detectives, they had combed everywhere in Tob Cohen’s Kitisuru compound, including the underground water tank, where his body was retrieved from on Friday, September 13, and that their previous searches yielded nothing to link his client to the murder.
Murgor suggested that Cohen could have been killed elsewhere recently and his body planted at the scene.
“I have talked to pathologists, and they have said there is no possibility that after close to 50 days a body would be found in a state that Cohen’s was in,” said Murgor.
The lawyer claims that his client was only allowed access to her house twice in a period of 17 days, hence there was no way she could kill and hide his body in the water tank during that period.
“The two times she was allowed access to her house, she was escorted by DCI detectives. Sarah had gone to her house for a bath and change of clothes,” said the lawyer.
Murgor further alleged that the last time Cohen was spotted on July 20, he was in the company of two women.
“I spoke to Sarah [on Friday, September 13], and she is saddened that her husband has been confirmed dead,” said Murgor. Why not wait for his day in court? He will have all the time to poke holes into the prosecution case. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:The plot thickens.... https://www.k24tv.co.ke/...iscoveries-murgor-8862/
Quote:Addressing journalists at his office in Ecobank Towers, Nairobi on Saturday, September 14, Murgor said in a 17-day search operation by DCI detectives, they had combed everywhere in Tob Cohen’s Kitisuru compound, including the underground water tank, where his body was retrieved from on Friday, September 13, and that their previous searches yielded nothing to link his client to the murder.
Murgor suggested that Cohen could have been killed elsewhere recently and his body planted at the scene.
“I have talked to pathologists, and they have said there is no possibility that after close to 50 days a body would be found in a state that Cohen’s was in,” said Murgor.
The lawyer claims that his client was only allowed access to her house twice in a period of 17 days, hence there was no way she could kill and hide his body in the water tank during that period.
“The two times she was allowed access to her house, she was escorted by DCI detectives. Sarah had gone to her house for a bath and change of clothes,” said the lawyer.
Murgor further alleged that the last time Cohen was spotted on July 20, he was in the company of two women.
“I spoke to Sarah [on Friday, September 13], and she is saddened that her husband has been confirmed dead,” said Murgor. Why not wait for his day in court? He will have all the time to poke holes into the prosecution case. Indeed. 1. It is the responsibilty of the prosecution to proof Sarah's guilt. 2. Murgor's job, before Sarah is put on her defence is just to poke holes in the prosecution's case. 3. In case she is put on her defence, Murgor's job is to provide a simple defence more so an alibi of where she was when the murder happened. Date and place of murder is for the prosecution to prove. 4. Problem, very big problem is if the co-consirators are caught and decide to snitch. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/2/2006 Posts: 1,206 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:The plot thickens.... https://www.k24tv.co.ke/...iscoveries-murgor-8862/
Quote:Addressing journalists at his office in Ecobank Towers, Nairobi on Saturday, September 14, Murgor said in a 17-day search operation by DCI detectives, they had combed everywhere in Tob Cohen’s Kitisuru compound, including the underground water tank, where his body was retrieved from on Friday, September 13, and that their previous searches yielded nothing to link his client to the murder.
Murgor suggested that Cohen could have been killed elsewhere recently and his body planted at the scene.
“I have talked to pathologists, and they have said there is no possibility that after close to 50 days a body would be found in a state that Cohen’s was in,” said Murgor.
The lawyer claims that his client was only allowed access to her house twice in a period of 17 days, hence there was no way she could kill and hide his body in the water tank during that period.
“The two times she was allowed access to her house, she was escorted by DCI detectives. Sarah had gone to her house for a bath and change of clothes,” said the lawyer.
Murgor further alleged that the last time Cohen was spotted on July 20, he was in the company of two women.
“I spoke to Sarah [on Friday, September 13], and she is saddened that her husband has been confirmed dead,” said Murgor. Why not wait for his day in court? He will have all the time to poke holes into the prosecution case. Indeed. 1. It is the responsibilty of the prosecution to proof Sarah's guilt. 2. Murgor's job, before Sarah is put on her defence is just to poke holes in the prosecution's case. 3. In case she is put on her defence, Murgor's job is to provide a simple defence more so an alibi of where she was when the murder happened. Date and place of murder is for the prosecution to prove. 4. Problem, very big problem is if the co-consirators are caught and decide to snitch. No.4 is the key. And you cant run from DCI. Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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More ndrama. Wah. ... https://www.the-star.co....g-unruly-widow-wairimu/
Quote:Tob Cohen was an erratic, violent drug addict and was nearly deported by former Internal Security minister John Michuki, now deceased.
This, according to his widow and murder suspect Sarah Wairimu, who is a murder suspect. The body of Dutchman was fished out of a water tank in his Kitisuru residence on Friday last week.
Wairimu, in a lengthy statement to the police before Cohen went missing on July 20, says that her husband was a stubborn and unpredictable man with no sense of shame or honour.
His attitude got him in trouble with Michuki, the no-nonsense security minister, at his Windsor Golf and Country Club and Hotel.
"..Tob had crossed his [Michuki's] path by insulting him and his company and was to be deported. I appealed and he was let free.
"After this, we were made persona-non-grata at the Windsor and had to withdraw our business from there," Wairimu said.
The couple managed a successful golfing tourism business and Windsor was one of the golf courses in which they took clients.
She paints a picture of a vengeful and irritable man who would fight business rivals physically in clubs and social places.
Subdued and injured, Cohen would return home to a welcoming Sarah and lie low until he healed before getting back to his drinking binge.
She claimed those who crossed his path would die mysteriously.
There was Barnard Martems, the boss of Papyrus Africa Ltd. He was always at loggerheads with her husband.
"[Martems was always at loggerheads with Tob and he had become a whistleblower to the downfall and closure of ABN AMRO Bank in Kenya. Martems ended up being shot at his gate in Karen," she claims.
Frank Timmerman, a foreigner client who wanted to settle in Kenya, collapsed and died mysteriously after a disagreement over business deals with Cohen.
Wairimu said her husband was a violent man who repeatedly assaulted and insulted her. He had formed the habit of referring to her as a Nyeri prostitute.
He would harass and abuse workers at home and in their businesses, eventually dismissing them without notice.
Cohen would break house doors and change locks in their posh Kitisuru home while she away on safari and would send her pictures when he is with other women.
In each of the incidents of violence, she said, she reported to Spring Valley Police station but no action was taken.
Cohen was a bully and whenever he needed something from someone, he would dangle the title deed of their property at Farasi Lane, Lower Kabete to entice his target.
It is this claim that her lawyer Philip Murugor appeared to build on his defence, claiming Wairimu has been framed by people with interest over their property at Farasi Lane which they jointly acquired in 2007.
The end-game of the plot was to have her locked up in prison to allow those with interest evict her from the house, Murgor claimed.
He claimed Cohen's body was planted at the scene by the police.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Alot of questions huko sosho media... Quote:How is the DCI seen hugging Cohen's relatives, almost breaking down in tears totally losing his impartiality and objectivity. The DCI cannot be seen to take sides no matter how much convinced he is that he has solved the case. His is to remain focused on the evidence. His over the top presentation in front of the media on Friday could easily be the point this case will collapse.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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How do people, sister/ brother take over property before the suspected wife of the deceased is convicted by a court of law? This calls for very many questions... https://www.the-star.co....llion-villa-will-shows/
Quote:Tob Cohen's sister to take over Sh400 million villa. Tycoon’s family seeks to transfer Wairimu's personal items to Langata women’s prison where the 52-year-old is detained.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:How do people, sister/ brother take over property before the suspected wife of the deceased is convicted by a court of law? This calls for very many questions... https://www.the-star.co....llion-villa-will-shows/
Quote:Tob Cohen's sister to take over Sh400 million villa. Tycoon’s family seeks to transfer Wairimu's personal items to Langata women’s prison where the 52-year-old is detained. can the 400 Million Villa simply be legally signed away to Tob Cohen's sister as per His will as it was Matrimonial property? Methinks Wairimu's daughter who was legally adopted by Tob Cohen stands to gain on the 400 Million Villa ( it is on half an acre...is it really worth 400 Million? I mean you can value it at 400 million but will they get a buyer for 400 million?)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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kawi254 wrote:hardwood wrote:How do people, sister/ brother take over property before the suspected wife of the deceased is convicted by a court of law? This calls for very many questions... https://www.the-star.co....llion-villa-will-shows/
Quote:Tob Cohen's sister to take over Sh400 million villa. Tycoon’s family seeks to transfer Wairimu's personal items to Langata women’s prison where the 52-year-old is detained. can the 400 Million Villa simply be legally signed away to Tob Cohen's sister as per His will as it was Matrimonial property? Methinks Wairimu's daughter who was legally adopted by Tob Cohen stands to gain on the 400 Million Villa ( it is on half an acre...is it really worth 400 Million? I mean you can value it at 400 million but will they get a buyer for 400 million?) Very true. A child should not be disinherited because of the alleged sins of her mother. The couple were married for 29yrs and the daughter knows no other home or parents.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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hardwood wrote:kawi254 wrote:[quote=hardwood]How do people, sister/ brother take over property before the suspected wife of the deceased is convicted by a court of law? This calls for very many questions... https://www.the-star.co....llion-villa-will-shows/
Quote:Tob Cohen's sister to take over Sh400 million villa. Tycoon’s family seeks to transfer Wairimu's personal items to Langata women’s prison where the 52-year-old is detained. can the 400 Million Villa simply be legally signed away to Tob Cohen's sister as per His will as it was Matrimonial property? Methinks Wairimu's daughter who was legally adopted by Tob Cohen stands to gain on the 400 Million Villa ( it is on half an acre...is it really worth 400 Million? I mean you can value it at 400 million but will they get a buyer for 400 million?) Very true. A child should not be disinherited because of the alleged sins of her mother. The couple were married for 29yrs and the daughter knows no other home. Some reports indicate they got married in 2007.That is 12 years ago.Where does this story of 29years come from? Why are there no kids?Sorry it's not a good question but then again it would be good to know why Wairish chose not to have pointy kids as we used to call them. From the stories flying around,its not as straight foward as I thought........bit Wairish remains key suspect.That Muiruri man also needs some probing.... Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Bigchick wrote:hardwood wrote:kawi254 wrote:hardwood wrote:How do people, sister/ brother take over property before the suspected wife of the deceased is convicted by a court of law? This calls for very many questions... https://www.the-star.co....llion-villa-will-shows/
Quote:Tob Cohen's sister to take over Sh400 million villa. Tycoon’s family seeks to transfer Wairimu's personal items to Langata women’s prison where the 52-year-old is detained. can the 400 Million Villa simply be legally signed away to Tob Cohen's sister as per His will as it was Matrimonial property? Methinks Wairimu's daughter who was legally adopted by Tob Cohen stands to gain on the 400 Million Villa ( it is on half an acre...is it really worth 400 Million? I mean you can value it at 400 million but will they get a buyer for 400 million?) Very true. A child should not be disinherited because of the alleged sins of her mother. The couple were married for 29yrs and the daughter knows no other home. Some reports indicate they got married in 2007.That is 12 years ago.Where does this story of 29years come from? Why are there no kids?Sorry it's not a good question but then again it would be good to know why Wairish chose not to have pointy kids as we used to call them. From the stories flying around,its not as straight foward as I thought........bit Wairish remains key suspect.That Muiruri man also needs some probing.... They have been living together since the lady was 22yrs and the guy 42yrs. That's close to 30yrs. The wedding came later. Regarding biological kids, i'd say we cannot comment about their circumstances since such matters are private but what we do know is that they have one adopted daughter. A child is a child since by law an adopted one has equal rights to a biological one. And yes you are right about that Muiruri fellow, he is talking too much and wailing more than the bereaved. He appears to know alot of finer details about the murder - the why, how and when - and thus he should also be considered as a person of interest.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 2,708
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Is that Muiruri the same one whose son was murdered a few years ago?
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Kusadikika wrote:Is that Muiruri the same one whose son was murdered a few years ago? Yep! Seems to be a witness in murder scenes "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 488
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Kusadikika wrote:Is that Muiruri the same one whose son was murdered a few years ago? Yeah....and former Gatundu North mpig and a hothead in his own right.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Who can paste that law of inheritance here? It is not a right, if a will exists, it prevails. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Why doesn't the article tell us about Cohens movements on the night of 19/20th? All it says is that he was at Muthaiga golf club at 10pm "drinking and worrying". If the author is able to trace Karanjas movements and phone signals, CCTV from naivasha to nairobi and back he should do the same for cohen. eg does CCTV at muthaiga club record him leaving, do cameras on lower kabete road capture his cars movements, when did he arrive home, did the askaris at his gate and neighbours' gates see him arrive, was his phone signal captured at his home, did the workers living in the compound see or hear anything etc etc. Also what about the 2 ladies he was allegedly last seen with?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Kusadikika wrote:Is that Muiruri the same one whose son was murdered a few years ago? And he is an ex-cop! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:Who can paste that law of inheritance here? It is not a right, if a will exists, it prevails. Your estate should pass on to your dependents i.e wife and kids, and they can contest the will if you leave the estate to 'strangers'. Also matrimonial property is owned on a 50/50 basis and therefore one spouse can not claim to pass all matrimonial property to 3rd parties.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Who can paste that law of inheritance here? It is not a right, if a will exists, it prevails. Your estate should pass on to your dependents i.e wife and kids, and they can contest the will if you leave the estate to 'strangers'. Also matrimonial property is owned on a 50/50 basis and therefore one spouse can not claim to pass all matrimonial property to 3rd parties. Does the law apply whey one partner"murders" the other one like what Wairimu has done? "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Gathige wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Who can paste that law of inheritance here? It is not a right, if a will exists, it prevails. Your estate should pass on to your dependents i.e wife and kids, and they can contest the will if you leave the estate to 'strangers'. Also matrimonial property is owned on a 50/50 basis and therefore one spouse can not claim to pass all matrimonial property to 3rd parties. Does the law apply whey one partner"murders" the other one like what Wairimu has done? The children are not to blame if the parents decide to kill each other. Even in the villages I read newspaper reports of wives murdering their husbands and vice versa but the kids are never evicted from the family home or shamba just because one parent is dead and the other one is in jail. Also one does not loose their property or share of the property just because they have been jailed. The jail term only relates to your crime, not your property.
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