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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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MugundaMan wrote:Speaking of creating cars. Heck, forget even cars but hata piki piki or lawnmowers. How come our Kenyan engineers who have been to Harvard, Stanford, IIT, Oxford etc are unable to create even a simple home grown piki piki to match Boxer or a tattered car to match the Mahindra mkebes from India I usually see on the road. Is it laziness? Ujuaji in theory terms but zero ability to translate to practicality? Surely moulding an engine motor is not rocket science for someone who has gone to MIT and studied engineering, so in over 50 years of independence how come we are unable to produce even a home grown black mamba, jameni? Or is it because our engineers are all at bars, chasing slayqueens and discussing Ruto 2022 succession fuaaaaaaa every day? http://3.bp.blogspot.com...cKQ/s1600/Image0421.jpg And now others think that our engineers (with their useless degrees) can compete with BMW and Toyota in designing and manufacturing cars. We import TVs, phones, washing machines, cookers, fridges, motor cycles etc. Why should we be stopped from importing cars which are also essential equipment.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Njunge wrote:@angela.SA does not import used cars. It has worked for them and I can't see a good reason why it should not(but I guess Omtata will be in court screaming discrimination}... Maybe the the fear here would be seeing slyqueens crammed in a vitz... Or Nyakinyuas like you with wigs bobbing from the rooftop of a Mobius as they rush to office.... Worked perfectly well..... Prices are also so decent. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Speaking of creating cars. Heck, forget even cars but hata piki piki or lawnmowers. How come our Kenyan engineers who have been to Harvard, Stanford, IIT, Oxford etc are unable to create even a simple home grown piki piki to match Boxer or a tattered car to match the Mahindra mkebes from India I usually see on the road. Is it laziness? Ujuaji in theory terms but zero ability to translate to practicality? Surely moulding an engine motor is not rocket science for someone who has gone to MIT and studied engineering, so in over 50 years of independence how come we are unable to produce even a home grown black mamba, jameni? Or is it because our engineers are all at bars, chasing slayqueens and discussing Ruto 2022 succession fuaaaaaaa every day? http://3.bp.blogspot.com...cKQ/s1600/Image0421.jpg And now others think that our engineers (with their useless degrees) can compete with BMW and Toyota in designing and manufacturing cars. We import TVs, phones, washing machines, cookers, fridges, motor cycles etc. Why should we be stopped from importing cars which are also essential equipment. @Hardwood jamaa wa mashamba is in order.... Explain to me why in 2019 we still import such things...Including solar panels yet we pride ourselves with guys who have gone to the best schools for crying out loud a Kenyan was Head of Engineering at Tesla or whatever his position was... There is something terribly wrong with this country I dont know how we will ever change that.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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2012 wrote:hardwood wrote:Wrong move.
[TWEET]1085777044347240448/TWEET] I actually think this is a good move. It will create opportunity for motor vehicle manufacture and assembly in our country. Only sad bit is that only the corrupt thieves will be able to afford gazzlers. This is like saying that we manufacture or assemble boda bodas while all we do is import the parts in boxes then employ some jamaas who sit in godowns the whole day with spanners joining the various parts - engine, wheels, chains etc together to make the complete boda bodas. That is how our car manufacturing/assembly currently works. Car manufacturing means sourcing steel and aluminium and moulding them into cars. Just like a tailor would source rolls of fabric from Rivatex (made from locally grown cotton) and transform them to new clothes.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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maka wrote:Njunge wrote:@angela.SA does not import used cars. It has worked for them and I can't see a good reason why it should not(but I guess Omtata will be in court screaming discrimination}... Maybe the the fear here would be seeing slyqueens crammed in a vitz... Or Nyakinyuas like you with wigs bobbing from the rooftop of a Mobius as they rush to office.... Worked perfectly well..... Prices are also so decent. Prices in SA are ok eg brand new rav4 at 2.9m, Corolla 2m. In kenya prices are double.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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maka wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Speaking of creating cars. Heck, forget even cars but hata piki piki or lawnmowers. How come our Kenyan engineers who have been to Harvard, Stanford, IIT, Oxford etc are unable to create even a simple home grown piki piki to match Boxer or a tattered car to match the Mahindra mkebes from India I usually see on the road. Is it laziness? Ujuaji in theory terms but zero ability to translate to practicality? Surely moulding an engine motor is not rocket science for someone who has gone to MIT and studied engineering, so in over 50 years of independence how come we are unable to produce even a home grown black mamba, jameni? Or is it because our engineers are all at bars, chasing slayqueens and discussing Ruto 2022 succession fuaaaaaaa every day? http://3.bp.blogspot.com...cKQ/s1600/Image0421.jpg And now others think that our engineers (with their useless degrees) can compete with BMW and Toyota in designing and manufacturing cars. We import TVs, phones, washing machines, cookers, fridges, motor cycles etc. Why should we be stopped from importing cars which are also essential equipment. @Hardwood jamaa wa mashamba is in order.... Explain to me why in 2019 we still import such things...Including solar panels yet we pride ourselves with guys who have gone to the best schools for crying out loud a Kenyan was Head of Engineering at Tesla or whatever his position was... There is something terribly wrong with this country I dont know how we will ever change that.... Then you meet these guys in the pub and everyone is introducing himself as Engineer so and so. We should see the results of their engineering training.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:maka wrote:Njunge wrote:@angela.SA does not import used cars. It has worked for them and I can't see a good reason why it should not(but I guess Omtata will be in court screaming discrimination}... Maybe the the fear here would be seeing slyqueens crammed in a vitz... Or Nyakinyuas like you with wigs bobbing from the rooftop of a Mobius as they rush to office.... Worked perfectly well..... Prices are also so decent. Price in SA are ok eg brand new rav4 at 2.9m, Corolla 2m. In kenya prices are double. Yep plus easy access to credit facilities... For crying out loud News Cafe attendants have proper rides...  Btw thats one of the foreign stations that KQ has nice cars.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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hardwood wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Speaking of creating cars. Heck, forget even cars but hata piki piki or lawnmowers. How come our Kenyan engineers who have been to Harvard, Stanford, IIT, Oxford etc are unable to create even a simple home grown piki piki to match Boxer or a tattered car to match the Mahindra mkebes from India I usually see on the road. Is it laziness? Ujuaji in theory terms but zero ability to translate to practicality? Surely moulding an engine motor is not rocket science for someone who has gone to MIT and studied engineering, so in over 50 years of independence how come we are unable to produce even a home grown black mamba, jameni? Or is it because our engineers are all at bars, chasing slayqueens and discussing Ruto 2022 succession fuaaaaaaa every day? http://3.bp.blogspot.com...cKQ/s1600/Image0421.jpg And now others think that our engineers (with their useless degrees) can compete with BMW and Toyota in designing and manufacturing cars. We import TVs, phones, washing machines, cookers, fridges, motor cycles etc. Why should we be stopped from importing cars which are also essential equipment. @Hardwood jamaa wa mashamba is in order.... Explain to me why in 2019 we still import such things...Including solar panels yet we pride ourselves with guys who have gone to the best schools for crying out loud a Kenyan was Head of Engineering at Tesla or whatever his position was... There is something terribly wrong with this country I dont know how we will ever change that.... Then you meet these guys in the pub and everyone is introducing himself as Engineer so and so. We should see the results of their engineering training. The most embarassing one is, we even import bicycles! Our political elite do not have the good will for industrialization, hence do not implement favourable policies to reduce cost of production. Who is the problem? Those who elect these mediocre leaders!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:hardwood wrote:maka wrote:hardwood wrote:MugundaMan wrote:Speaking of creating cars. Heck, forget even cars but hata piki piki or lawnmowers. How come our Kenyan engineers who have been to Harvard, Stanford, IIT, Oxford etc are unable to create even a simple home grown piki piki to match Boxer or a tattered car to match the Mahindra mkebes from India I usually see on the road. Is it laziness? Ujuaji in theory terms but zero ability to translate to practicality? Surely moulding an engine motor is not rocket science for someone who has gone to MIT and studied engineering, so in over 50 years of independence how come we are unable to produce even a home grown black mamba, jameni? Or is it because our engineers are all at bars, chasing slayqueens and discussing Ruto 2022 succession fuaaaaaaa every day? http://3.bp.blogspot.com...cKQ/s1600/Image0421.jpg And now others think that our engineers (with their useless degrees) can compete with BMW and Toyota in designing and manufacturing cars. We import TVs, phones, washing machines, cookers, fridges, motor cycles etc. Why should we be stopped from importing cars which are also essential equipment. @Hardwood jamaa wa mashamba is in order.... Explain to me why in 2019 we still import such things...Including solar panels yet we pride ourselves with guys who have gone to the best schools for crying out loud a Kenyan was Head of Engineering at Tesla or whatever his position was... There is something terribly wrong with this country I dont know how we will ever change that.... Then you meet these guys in the pub and everyone is introducing himself as Engineer so and so. We should see the results of their engineering training. The most embarassing one is, we even import bicycles! Our political elite do not have the good will for industrialization, hence do not implement favourable policies to reduce cost of production. Who is the problem? Those who elect these mediocre leaders! Yes shida ni sisi... What do you expect from the likes of Sonko when it comes to supporting manufacturing.... If am not wrong we imported 90k cars last year we assemlbed 4700 there about look at the difference.. There is some Rwandan guy who is hand crafting/building bamboo race bikes and they are quite pricey... http://rwandabamboobike.org/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Actually this is a brilliant idea. But I am afraid my accolades end with that statement. This being jubilee, don't be shocked to realize nobody has sat down and thought this through. We clear an average 7,000 second-hand units per month. At a minimum duty of 300K per unit, that makes 2.1B monthly and 25B annually. That is the bare minimum. Throw in the jobs created by the second hand vehicles market. Do we have a vehicle assembly industry big enough to create this number of jobs and generate as much revenue ?? Again, this is Jubilee, the attitude is "tutajulia mbele".
I heard the minister talking of environmental concerns. How about waive duty for electric vehicles and cut our import bill on fuel, stabilize the KES and utilize the excess power being produced. ERC and KPLC are struggling with excess power production. So much so that they have put on hold the execution of any further PPAs. Norway are on track to stop the sale of internal combustion engine vehicles before the tentative 2040 EU deadline. And to imagine the Norwegians got rich selling fossil fuels.
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