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Centum half year results 2017/2018
VituVingiSana
#41 Posted : Tuesday, March 20, 2018 7:30:37 PM
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CENTUM INVESTMENTS divests from GenAfrica Asset Managers after four years, selling its 73.4 per cent stake to Kuramo Capital for an unknown amount.

Applause Applause Applause Sell the mature businesses! Look for other ventures.


I look on the contrary that it must have been a nasty year for centum.
They are disposing off weeks to end of financial year.

I doubt these sales happen "bei ya jioni" style. The buyers must have had time to do their Due Diligence. These sort of deals, esp dealing with financial firms and retirement assets, probably need sign-offs from various regulators too which takes time too.
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VituVingiSana
#42 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:08:59 AM
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Centum sells stake in asset management firm
https://www.businessdail...50380-bk0lj3/index.html
The deal with Kuramo, is subject to “various” undisclosed conditions as well as approvals from the respective capital markets authorities in Kenya and Uganda as well as the Competition Authority of Kenya.
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sparkly
#43 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 5:35:40 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Twitter @PeterMutegi

CENTUM INVESTMENTS divests from GenAfrica Asset Managers after four years, selling its 73.4 per cent stake to Kuramo Capital for an unknown amount.

Applause Applause Applause Sell the mature businesses! Look for other ventures.


I look on the contrary that it must have been a nasty year for centum.
They are disposing off weeks to end of financial year.

I doubt these sales happen "bei ya jioni" style. The buyers must have had time to do their Due Diligence. These sort of deals, esp dealing with financial firms and retirement assets, probably need sign-offs from various regulators too which takes time too.


They need the Cash for 2 Rivers.
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#44 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:18:57 AM
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sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Twitter @PeterMutegi

CENTUM INVESTMENTS divests from GenAfrica Asset Managers after four years, selling its 73.4 per cent stake to Kuramo Capital for an unknown amount.

Applause Applause Applause Sell the mature businesses! Look for other ventures.


I look on the contrary that it must have been a nasty year for centum.
They are disposing off weeks to end of financial year.

I doubt these sales happen "bei ya jioni" style. The buyers must have had time to do their Due Diligence. These sort of deals, esp dealing with financial firms and retirement assets, probably need sign-offs from various regulators too which takes time too.


They need the Cash for 2 Rivers.


Eh? For what? Two rivers is completed! And also they are a minority stake in the mall which is majority owned by OM.
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 10:30:32 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Centum sells stake in asset management firm
https://www.businessdail...50380-bk0lj3/index.html
The deal with Kuramo, is subject to “various” undisclosed conditions as well as approvals from the respective capital markets authorities in Kenya and Uganda as well as the Competition Authority of Kenya.


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Angelica _ann
#46 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:06:01 AM
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This Kuroma guys are the ones who bailed out Transcentury?
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#47 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:17:09 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
This Kuroma guys are the ones who bailed out Transcentury?

who are these guys, they are every where, they also wanted bail out uchumi

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#48 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 11:32:53 AM
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littledove wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
This Kuroma guys are the ones who bailed out Transcentury?

who are these guys, they are every where, they also wanted bail out uchumi



Its KURAMO. Another Helios type. Still waiting to see their 'grand' plan for TCL
Start!
Ericsson
#49 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:29:43 PM
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Horton wrote:
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Twitter @PeterMutegi

CENTUM INVESTMENTS divests from GenAfrica Asset Managers after four years, selling its 73.4 per cent stake to Kuramo Capital for an unknown amount.

Applause Applause Applause Sell the mature businesses! Look for other ventures.


I look on the contrary that it must have been a nasty year for centum.
They are disposing off weeks to end of financial year.

I doubt these sales happen "bei ya jioni" style. The buyers must have had time to do their Due Diligence. These sort of deals, esp dealing with financial firms and retirement assets, probably need sign-offs from various regulators too which takes time too.


They need the Cash for 2 Rivers.


Eh? For what? Two rivers is completed! And also they are a minority stake in the mall which is majority owned by OM.


He meant loans that were taken to build Two Rivers Mall
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VituVingiSana
#50 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 12:44:22 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Centum sells stake in asset management firm
https://www.businessdail...50380-bk0lj3/index.html
The deal with Kuramo, is subject to “various” undisclosed conditions as well as approvals from the respective capital markets authorities in Kenya and Uganda as well as the Competition Authority of Kenya.




Barium Capital ni nani?
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Ericsson
#51 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2018 1:20:09 PM
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"Centum invested in Platcorp Holdings in December 2012 and it has delivered a stellar 31 percent holding period internal rate of return” noted James Mworia
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VituVingiSana
#52 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:08:26 AM
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Where Centum invested its 1.1bn (from the sale of Platcorp?) https://www.nation.co.ke...359322-idmj91/index.html
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enyands
#53 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:09:51 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Where Centum invested its 1.1bn (from the sale of Platcorp?) https://www.nation.co.ke...59322-idmj91/index.html


sidian bank

Investment firm Centum has pumped Sh1.1 billion into its banking subsidiary Sidian in a rights issue that is meant to boost the lender’s core capital.

Sidian chief executive Chege Thumbi said the capital injection will support trade finance, which the bank has been eyeing as part of a wider scheme aimed at growing its loan book.

Centum holds a 73 per cent stake in Sidian Bank and the Sh1.1 billion cash injection means it has defended its entire stake in the rights issue.

“Shareholders approved a total of Sh1.5 billion rights issue and we have received Sh1.1 billion, which is the share due from our main shareholder Centum. The other investors have until November to contribute their share of the rights,” Mr Thumbi said.
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#54 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:04:10 AM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]Where Centum invested its 1.1bn (from the sale of Platcorp?) https://www.nation.co.ke...59322-idmj91/index.html[/quote]
Link iko wapi.
In the report nowhere is it mentioned they used proceeds from platcorp
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Ericsson
#55 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:06:36 AM
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enyands wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Where Centum invested its 1.1bn (from the sale of Platcorp?) https://www.nation.co.ke...59322-idmj91/index.html


sidian bank

Investment firm Centum has pumped Sh1.1 billion into its banking subsidiary Sidian in a rights issue that is meant to boost the lender’s core capital.

Sidian chief executive Chege Thumbi said the capital injection will support trade finance, which the bank has been eyeing as part of a wider scheme aimed at growing its loan book.

Centum holds a 73 per cent stake in Sidian Bank and the Sh1.1 billion cash injection means it has defended its entire stake in the rights issue.

“Shareholders approved a total of Sh1.5 billion rights issue and we have received Sh1.1 billion, which is the share due from our main shareholder Centum. The other investors have until November to contribute their share of the rights,” Mr Thumbi said.


Sidian bank is a thorn in the flesh of centum.
They are to report full year results before thursday which will be a loss widening compared to last year.
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VituVingiSana
#56 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:08:06 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Where Centum invested its 1.1bn (from the sale of Platcorp?) https://www.nation.co.ke...59322-idmj91/index.html

Link iko wapi.
In the report nowhere is it mentioned they used proceeds from platcorp
Hence the "?" smile
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Ericsson
#57 Posted : Tuesday, March 27, 2018 4:17:34 PM
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sh.1.2bn pumped in 2016 then 1.1bn in 2018.
Waah
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VituVingiSana
#58 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2018 7:41:21 PM
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House team backs Sh200bn Lamu coal power plant plan
https://www.businessdail...0740-k93gqvz/index.html
If Centum can find a financing and operating partner then this will be another decent "fair value gain" in Centum's books. The question is "when?" and the sooner the better!
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Ericsson
#59 Posted : Wednesday, March 28, 2018 9:34:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
House team backs Sh200bn Lamu coal power plant plan
https://www.businessdail...0740-k93gqvz/index.html
If Centum can find a financing and operating partner then this will be another decent "fair value gain" in Centum's books. The question is "when?" and the sooner the better!


Forget about the coal power plant for now.
It's not being built any time soon.
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VituVingiSana
#60 Posted : Thursday, March 29, 2018 7:04:57 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
House team backs Sh200bn Lamu coal power plant plan
https://www.businessdail...0740-k93gqvz/index.html
If Centum can find a financing and operating partner then this will be another decent "fair value gain" in Centum's books. The question is "when?" and the sooner the better!


Forget about the coal power plant for now.
It's not being built any time soon.

Yes, a $2bn power plant isn't like installing a solar panel.
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