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Lolest! wrote:Our friends could be headed for tougher times. Zanu-PF youth leader has made a public apology to the army chief for criticising him. He looks composed as he makes it but for a guy said to be in detention we can't rule out threats.
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You have not seen the video doing rounds where he is forced to roll on/in mud in full suit plus tie without shoes!!!  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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jgithige wrote:Credit to the ZIM military they have carried out their steps with alot of humility maybe force where necessary. So afar we haven't heard of any split within the army or heavy exchanges of fire to the threat of their citizenry and foreigners. Even though I don't agree with what they've done, I still give them credit for cohesion. Kame ingekua Kenya, the military would be split according to their ethnicity/political affiliations If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Angelica _ann wrote:Lolest! wrote:Our friends could be headed for tougher times. Zanu-PF youth leader has made a public apology to the army chief for criticising him. He looks composed as he makes it but for a guy said to be in detention we can't rule out threats.
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You have not seen the video doing rounds where he is forced to roll on/in mud in full suit plus tie without shoes!!! Photoshopped ,Behold, a sower went forth to sow;....
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Lolest! wrote:Our friends could be headed for tougher times. Zanu-PF youth leader has made a public apology to the army chief for criticising him. He looks composed as he makes it but for a guy said to be in detention we can't rule out threats. Exit the civilian dictator, in comes the military dictator  Mugabe may be loathed elsewhere but he still commands popular support among ordinary Zims and silently among African leaders...the reason the military may not want to humiliate him. But true the possibility of Grace's ascent may have precipitated their reaction
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It's beginning to look like the army boss acted in haste. The motivation was self preservation. BTW almost everything coming out of Zimbabwe is fake news.
Latest : AU has authorized SADC to handle the negotiations. Bottom line being any govt coming through the coup would not be recognized by both as per AU rules. SADC wants the army to agree they acted illegally. That is why they are vehemently denying there was a coup using the semantic gymnastics @masukuma alluded to.
Now the army has-been forced to the negotiating table from a point of disadvantage. With a tacit threat of military intervention by SADC. It's instructive to note Zuma sent his defence and security ministers and not the foreign minister.
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Swenani wrote:jgithige wrote:Credit to the ZIM military they have carried out their steps with alot of humility maybe force where necessary. So afar we haven't heard of any split within the army or heavy exchanges of fire to the threat of their citizenry and foreigners. Even though I don't agree with what they've done, I still give them credit for cohesion. Kame ingekua Kenya, the military would be split according to their ethnicity/political affiliations I think you have 'seen for' the kenyan army, if that were the case I think we would have had several coups, the only attempted one was by a civilian. I think that shows the kenyan army to be very professional
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Elsewhere, Africa's richest woman Isabel Dos Santos, daughter of former Angolan President Dos Santos has been fired from her position as head of the State Oil firm
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FRM2011 wrote:It's beginning to look like the army boss acted in haste. The motivation was self preservation. BTW almost everything coming out of Zimbabwe is fake news.
Latest : AU has authorized SADC to handle the negotiations. Bottom line being any govt coming through the coup would not be recognized by both as per AU rules. SADC wants the army to agree they acted illegally. That is why they are vehemently denying there was a coup using the semantic gymnastics @masukuma alluded to.
Now the army has-been forced to the negotiating table from a point of disadvantage. With a tacit threat of military intervention by SADC. It's instructive to note Zuma sent his defence and security ministers and not the foreign minister.
Foreign military intervention in a Country with a standing military of its own, is not an easy decision nor one to be taken in haste. The implications are multiplex and with no clear end in sight. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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I will miss former President RG Mugabe. Enter Tsvangirai as PM. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Ngalaka wrote:FRM2011 wrote:It's beginning to look like the army boss acted in haste. The motivation was self preservation. BTW almost everything coming out of Zimbabwe is fake news.
Latest : AU has authorized SADC to handle the negotiations. Bottom line being any govt coming through the coup would not be recognized by both as per AU rules. SADC wants the army to agree they acted illegally. That is why they are vehemently denying there was a coup using the semantic gymnastics @masukuma alluded to.
Now the army has-been forced to the negotiating table from a point of disadvantage. With a tacit threat of military intervention by SADC. It's instructive to note Zuma sent his defence and security ministers and not the foreign minister.
Foreign military intervention in a Country with a standing military of its own, is not an easy decision nor one to be taken in haste. The implications are multiplex and with no clear end in sight. That Zimbabwe Army is worse than our own, at least we have experience of 'vita' ..... How did Gambia remove that corrupt fellow using their own military? In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Quote:The only white man you can trust is a dead white man. ... ~ Robert Mugabe i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,908
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harrydre wrote:Quote:The only white man you can trust is a dead white man. ... ~ Robert Mugabe Like locally  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Angelica _ann wrote:Ngalaka wrote:FRM2011 wrote:It's beginning to look like the army boss acted in haste. The motivation was self preservation. BTW almost everything coming out of Zimbabwe is fake news.
Latest : AU has authorized SADC to handle the negotiations. Bottom line being any govt coming through the coup would not be recognized by both as per AU rules. SADC wants the army to agree they acted illegally. That is why they are vehemently denying there was a coup using the semantic gymnastics @masukuma alluded to.
Now the army has-been forced to the negotiating table from a point of disadvantage. With a tacit threat of military intervention by SADC. It's instructive to note Zuma sent his defence and security ministers and not the foreign minister.
Foreign military intervention in a Country with a standing military of its own, is not an easy decision nor one to be taken in haste. The implications are multiplex and with no clear end in sight. That Zimbabwe Army is worse than our own, at least we have experience of 'vita' ..... How did Gambia remove that corrupt fellow using their own military? The situation in the Gambia was very different. The incumbent president had lost an election, but blatantly refused to leave office. Now the point of departure; the country's military though taking the view that the election outcome ought to be respected, they chose not to intervene per se. ECOWAS threatened to send in their membership troops to get the buffoon out of power a proposal that the local military was in favour of. in fact the military chief offered to escort the ECOWAS troops. Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Ngalaka wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Ngalaka wrote:FRM2011 wrote:It's beginning to look like the army boss acted in haste. The motivation was self preservation. BTW almost everything coming out of Zimbabwe is fake news.
Latest : AU has authorized SADC to handle the negotiations. Bottom line being any govt coming through the coup would not be recognized by both as per AU rules. SADC wants the army to agree they acted illegally. That is why they are vehemently denying there was a coup using the semantic gymnastics @masukuma alluded to.
Now the army has-been forced to the negotiating table from a point of disadvantage. With a tacit threat of military intervention by SADC. It's instructive to note Zuma sent his defence and security ministers and not the foreign minister.
Foreign military intervention in a Country with a standing military of its own, is not an easy decision nor one to be taken in haste. The implications are multiplex and with no clear end in sight. That Zimbabwe Army is worse than our own, at least we have experience of 'vita' ..... How did Gambia remove that corrupt fellow using their own military? The situation in the Gambia was very different. The incumbent president had lost an election, but blatantly refused to leave office. Now the point of departure; the country's military though taking the view that the election outcome ought to be respected, they chose not to intervene per se. ECOWAS threatened to send in their membership troops to get the buffoon out of power a proposal that the local military was in favour of. in fact the military chief offered to escort the ECOWAS troops. World over, days when military or war lords seized power with abandon are over. Any stupid moves and international community comes calling. That's tells you very own NRM is living in the past.
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In fact when I realized they were after the President RGM i moved forward and defended Mugabe and told them to keep him under warm house arrest because the problem was not RGM but his wife who i realized was enjoying good time in Namibia with one of RGM ministers I quickly called Media and told them what to report as this was not a coup but keeping Mugabe Company in a warmer house. That is why the army still referred him still as "His Excellency" is save and warm!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Word coming through deal struck. Details coming through.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Tsvangirai left his chemo therapy sessions when he heard of a coup! Kweli power is sweet "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:harrydre wrote:mpobiz wrote:In my opinion this is not a coup. The military is only protecting their senile commander in chief from criminals. Agreed. If it was a coup, the old man would have arrived in Makueni by now. The VP needs to take charge and lead the nation per the constitution. Boss... it's a COUP! stop lying to yourselves and playing around with words. The "National Democratic Project" is a COUP! Quote:A coup is the illegal and overt seizure of a state by the military or other elites within the state apparatus The commader in chief is not even aware what's going on. Maybe he has just been told the wife has decided to go to London for some shopping. He is even happy to see the boys around him because it was getting lonely at times with only the wife yapping daily about mamagawa and his wichcraft then this coup is more peaceful than our so called 'democratic' process   i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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harrydre wrote:mpobiz wrote:masukuma wrote:harrydre wrote:mpobiz wrote:In my opinion this is not a coup. The military is only protecting their senile commander in chief from criminals. Agreed. If it was a coup, the old man would have arrived in Makueni by now. The VP needs to take charge and lead the nation per the constitution. Boss... it's a COUP! stop lying to yourselves and playing around with words. The "National Democratic Project" is a COUP! Quote:A coup is the illegal and overt seizure of a state by the military or other elites within the state apparatus The commader in chief is not even aware what's going on. Maybe he has just been told the wife has decided to go to London for some shopping. He is even happy to see the boys around him because it was getting lonely at times with only the wife yapping daily about mamagawa and his wichcraft then this coup is more peaceful than our so called 'democratic' process The army were only removing the "criminals" surrounding the president. Otherwise Uncle Bob still firmly in control.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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m7 and kgme must be gassing hot air.our own despot moi saw far punda amecheka
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