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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. Unless Munya's strategy of dividing subtribes works, it may not amount to much for NASA. NASA should not be cheated to assume Munya voters = NASA voters. The Aug governor outcome in Meru was based on competition among sub-tribes. It did not work effectively for Munya since the Imenti had more registered voters than Tigania and Igembe, combined. His strategy was of him being a warrior who was going to battle the others to bring home the win. The "others" felt they needed to respond and voted overwhelmingly as a block. A different thing occurred with women rep. The jubilee candidate there lost traction when she told women that the cabbages and potatoes donated by the competitor were to make them "majimaji." This was why his partners dropped the tripartite campaign, dropping the women rep even in posters on the excuse that the women rep campaigns had become too hot for them. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. Lets just say its Munya, the party has disowned him "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/22/2009 Posts: 2,449 Location: Africa
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murchr wrote:Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. Unless Munya's strategy of dividing subtribes works, it may not amount to much for NASA. NASA should not be cheated to assume Munya voters = NASA voters. The Aug governor outcome in Meru was based on competition among sub-tribes. It did not work effectively for Munya since the Imenti had more registered voters than Tigania and Igembe, combined. His strategy was of him being a warrior who was going to battle the others to bring home the win. The "others" felt they needed to respond and voted overwhelmingly as a block. A different thing occurred with women rep. The jubilee candidate there lost traction when she told women that the cabbages and potatoes donated by the competitor were to make them "majimaji." This was why his partners dropped the tripartite campaign, dropping the women rep even in posters on the excuse that the women rep campaigns had become too hot for them. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. Lets just say its Munya, the party has disowned him Munya has money from where? He must have exhausted it in his campaigns
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/23/2009 Posts: 526
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ZZE123 wrote:A lot of the other candidates from both sides especially MP’s and MCA’s had imported voters and encouraged them to register in their areas, they then mobilized them to vote on nane nane.. Will they mobilize again?
I predict voter turnout will be not more than 12M Interesting observation here,it is now official the elections will be held on 17th October, 2017. Based on the voter turn out on phase I of the 2017 elections, and an analysis of some counties, there are some patterns which may be interesting to see if the voters may change their minds from the last time. The combination of the coast votes for Rao i.e. Taita, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kwale, Lamu & Tana River were 801,355 and UK 288,713 such counties are comparable with Meru, Tharaka Nithi, & Embu where they each got 83,908 and 878,365. This is a combined total of 885,263 and 1,424,633 for Rao & Uhuru. The next analysis is the strong holds of the two leaders where Siaya, Homa Bay, Migori,& Kisumu yielded 1,482,032 and 57,903 while the two counties of Kiambu and Murang'a yielded 78,310 and 1,411,658 respectively. This again offers a combined total of 1,560,342 and 1,469,561 each. The bastions of Busia, Kakamega, Vihiga, & Bungoma gave Rao 1,194,994 and UK 244,383. Similar counties of Kirinyaga, Nyeri, Laikipia, & Nyandarua voted 31,013 and 1,149,750. The above gave totals of 1,226,007 and 1,394,133.Counties of Makueni, Kitui, & Machakos voted for Rao and UK as 969,573 & 175,189 whereas the counties of Nakuru, Nandi & Kericho were 165,499 & 1,157,040. Totals for the two amounted to 1,135,072 and 1,332,229The other counties considered as highly volatile in terms of changing their voting patterns include Nyamira, Kisii & Trans Nzoia which gave Rao 454,787 and UK 392,647 votes. Counties whose known voting pattern and have been left out include Bomet, Baringo, Uasin Gishu & Elgeyo Marakwet which gave Rao 139,347 and UK 797,362. Other counties may be considered swing as the duo some how shared the spoils. From the foregoing, NASA has to really work hard to ensure they carry the day as Raila commands 5,400,812 while UK has 6,810,565. This represents approximately 79% of the 15m plus votes as per phase one. Accept no one's definition of your life; define your life.
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Shak wrote:murchr wrote:Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. Unless Munya's strategy of dividing subtribes works, it may not amount to much for NASA. NASA should not be cheated to assume Munya voters = NASA voters. The Aug governor outcome in Meru was based on competition among sub-tribes. It did not work effectively for Munya since the Imenti had more registered voters than Tigania and Igembe, combined. His strategy was of him being a warrior who was going to battle the others to bring home the win. The "others" felt they needed to respond and voted overwhelmingly as a block. A different thing occurred with women rep. The jubilee candidate there lost traction when she told women that the cabbages and potatoes donated by the competitor were to make them "majimaji." This was why his partners dropped the tripartite campaign, dropping the women rep even in posters on the excuse that the women rep campaigns had become too hot for them. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. Lets just say its Munya, the party has disowned him Munya has money from where? He must have exhausted it in his campaigns True...actually its only last week when the Registar replaced Munya as PNU chair with Kibaki?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. Unless Munya's strategy of dividing subtribes works, it may not amount to much for NASA. NASA should not be cheated to assume Munya voters = NASA voters. The Aug governor outcome in Meru was based on competition among sub-tribes. It did not work effectively for Munya since the Imenti had more registered voters than Tigania and Igembe, combined. His strategy was of him being a warrior who was going to battle the others to bring home the win. The "others" felt they needed to respond and voted overwhelmingly as a block. A different thing occurred with women rep. The jubilee candidate there lost traction when she told women that the cabbages and potatoes donated by the competitor were to make them "majimaji." This was why his partners dropped the tripartite campaign, dropping the women rep even in posters on the excuse that the women rep campaigns had become too hot for them. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. I like your assessment. The Imenti vs Tigani/Igembe divide is real. The southern Ameru are also not in the mix
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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One of the trickiest things for Nasa is how to handle governors who are Jubilee leaning Take the case of Meru. Kiraitu and his Imenti base know that if Uhuru loses and Munya has a petition that overturns Meru governor polls, Munya will just be referring to the Presidential results 'theft' and how it was turned round in the rerun Hence I expect governors with strong opponents still claiming fraud to campaign bigly for the incumbent.
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Lolest! wrote:Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. Unless Munya's strategy of dividing subtribes works, it may not amount to much for NASA. NASA should not be cheated to assume Munya voters = NASA voters. The Aug governor outcome in Meru was based on competition among sub-tribes. It did not work effectively for Munya since the Imenti had more registered voters than Tigania and Igembe, combined. His strategy was of him being a warrior who was going to battle the others to bring home the win. The "others" felt they needed to respond and voted overwhelmingly as a block. A different thing occurred with women rep. The jubilee candidate there lost traction when she told women that the cabbages and potatoes donated by the competitor were to make them "majimaji." This was why his partners dropped the tripartite campaign, dropping the women rep even in posters on the excuse that the women rep campaigns had become too hot for them. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. I like your assessment. The Imenti vs Tigani/Igembe divide is real. The southern Ameru are also not in the mix A piece of advice here, i come from the greater meru, before 8817 we were treated to theatrics that Kindiki junior will convert 35% of votes to NASA, the tally remained as it were in 2013 meaning NASA investment paid ZERO dividends, the same case will happen to Munya. I wont ask anyone to take this to the bank since they might take it to equity and the loan will never see the light Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. That should be about 128 votes gone to NASA Lord, thank you!
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Shak wrote:murchr wrote:Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. Lets just say its Munya, the party has disowned him Munya has money from where? He must have exhausted it in his campaigns Perhaps, but If he has burned all the cash he had accumulated (auditor's reports have always had interesting stuff on Meru county) on campaigns, then NASA should abandon him. My theory is that a poor Munya has no value for NASA. He is arrogant and his history with Kiraitu makes him a liability for the base that NASA can mobilise using him. The widespread view in Munya's core base is that they collaborated with Kiraitu to rob Kilemi, the base's favored son, victory in 2013. I know Kilemi had negligible votes in 2017, but this, in my view, was largely due to intense sub-tribe competition that led to intense lobbying not to split votes - Even Gatobu, the young mp, dropped out last minute. I do not think Nasa are that incompetent to be saddled with a poor Munya as a "principal".
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Meanwhile what is Elastoplast Rutos position?Is he still headed to Canaan? I hear Hassan Omar is campaigning for Jubilee huko Mambasani. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Bigchick wrote:Meanwhile what is Elastoplast Rutos position?Is he still headed to Canaan?
I hear Hassan Omar is campaigning for Jubilee huko Mambasani.  he is a co Principal with Munya I am happy
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Cv254K wrote:Shak wrote:murchr wrote:Cv254K wrote:Gathige wrote:PNU , under the leadership of Munya, has officially joined NASA. Meru Tibim. Another chunk of votes to Baba in the election. On president, Meru Nasarites are quite vocal, but they are seriously outnumbered. Another issue is that most of Meru Nasarites are the middle class who are likely to be registered in Kajiado, Nairobi, Kiambu etc. Those registered in Meru are mainly "watu wa Nairobi" or the "elite" who are generally considered out of touch with the grassroots. The grassroot guys like humilating these other guys. One MCA was felled when "watu wa nairobi" started campaigning for him, akaambiwa watu wao hao wampigie kura. NASA can however make a dent in Meru if they engage grassroot mobilizers. They should forget the elite who have always campaigned for them and do serious ground work to counter the "Mount Kenya Mafia" characterisation. The grassroot guys are the guys who can speak to the people in a language closer to their hearts and allay fears of marginalization in a NASA government. NASA can use Munya's money (he now has money compared to 2013 when he was a Kiraitu protégé) to recruit these grassroot campaigners. But, if they go to Meru with a "thieves" rhetoric that Munya is advancing, I do not see any hope. Lets just say its Munya, the party has disowned him Munya has money from where? He must have exhausted it in his campaigns Perhaps, but If he has burned all the cash he had accumulated (auditor's reports have always had interesting stuff on Meru county) on campaigns, then NASA should abandon him. My theory is that a poor Munya has no value for NASA. He is arrogant and his history with Kiraitu makes him a liability for the base that NASA can mobilise using him. The widespread view in Munya's core base is that they collaborated with Kiraitu to rob Kilemi, the base's favored son, victory in 2013. I know Kilemi had negligible votes in 2017, but this, in my view, was largely due to intense sub-tribe competition that led to intense lobbying not to split votes - Even Gatobu, the yo in officeung mp, dropped out last minute. I do not think Nasa are that incompetent to be saddled with a poor Munya as a "principal". Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaa! Ati Munya is now a Nasa principal. A principal with insignificant basket of votes. Munya's problem started when he started massaging his own ego soon after the 2013 general elections. For one he owed his position then to his association with Kiraitu. Without Kiraitu he had only the Tigania, not the Imenti, Igembe and that could not get him anywhere. Secondly, once in office started employing largely the Tigania people. Those dusty roads largely in Tigania subregion were largely upgraded and then started squeezing the small business holders largely in Imenti which earned him their wrath...remember the 2014 demonstrations in larger Meru and the hanging high of the dog which they called Munya. It seemed like the kiosks demolitions in Meru was the cause of the demonstrations, but it was not the case Thirdly, the grand fallout with Kiraitu and other smaller people like Mithika. I don't see Munya recovering any time soon unless he goes back "home" and waits for Kiraitu to finish his two terms as governor. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Ha ha ha...more of 2M gap this time round. Watch! i.am.back!!!!
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Lolest! wrote:Quote:Also, who is willing to fund NASA now? One Jiggy was pictured with RAO outside the Subreme Goat on Friday
NASA to kick out Wanjigi to rebuild team for Oct 17 pollLINKThe Star wrote:NASA is shaking up its campaign secretariat as the IEBC yesterday gazetted October 17 for the presidential election rerun.
High-profile figures — including moneybags businessman Jimmy Wanjigi who promised big bucks but didn’t deliver — will be kicked out.
As it tries for a knock-out punch against President Uhuru Kenyatta — in 54 days — Raila Odinga’s opposition aims for a lean, efficient team running a better-organised and lubricated campaign.
Wanjigi and campaign secretariat chief Willis Otieno top the list of those to be purged in the regrouping for an intense, hit-the-ground-running campaign.
The decision to expel Wanjigi was reached at the weekend in Kilaguni, Taita Taveta, where Raila and NASA principals retreated to plot their campaign, create new structures and start fundraising. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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murchr wrote:Njung'e wrote:mobutu123 wrote:[quote=innairobi]
Concentrate on ua campaigns boss. We have not asked u for any advise neither have we asked your candidate to campaign while high on jameson. You and who??.....You should know in Wazua, we tolerate all manner of propaganda, real or perceived without throwing around insults. Matusi na hasira peleka kwako  Alijoin juzi na nyege mingi Tumezeeka kweli TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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Angelica _ann wrote:washiku wrote:Munya has crossed over. Let's see how many he votes he crosses with to close the gap. More to follow The ever lovely Angelica. You are a different breed of humans. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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In the current formation of new campaign teams, i vote for Martha Karua to explain to Nawa that there will be NO nusu mkate this time, the suspense is becoming eerily similar to the 2007 delays, she is a lawyer understands the katiba, and did much better than Munya, in my view, this is the best weapon to finish Raila with, for which she would get a plum job. Ras Kienyeji Man
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simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:Njung'e wrote:mobutu123 wrote:[quote=innairobi]
Concentrate on ua campaigns boss. We have not asked u for any advise neither have we asked your candidate to campaign while high on jameson. You and who??.....You should know in Wazua, we tolerate all manner of propaganda, real or perceived without throwing around insults. Matusi na hasira peleka kwako Alijoin juzi na nyege mingi Tumezeeka kweli Weeee...A few facts. Am not new here. i joined this place kama inaitwa SK. Wazee wenzangu ni kina Guka,leona,mukiri,simonkabz etc Am a very sober debater. Ukoina naongea mbaya,something really gave in. Wanajijua.
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Copy & Paste
Written by DNG.
This thing called Tribalism.
Why do some people hate each other so much?
Why does it matter what someone's last name is?
This electoral season alone, I have unfollowed & unfriended a whole lot of people spewing hate and intolerance. It is shocking, especially coming from my agemates.
I never experienced tribalism in school. Never. I studied with Whites, Asians, Rwandese, Congolese, Sudanese, Egyptians & fellow Kenyans. It never crossed my mind that we were any different. We were punished the same, played the same and studied the same. Today, I cannot get a point across regarding current affairs without being branded a psychophant or a sell-out. Allow me to state the following:
1. For those who may not know, I have done work for both H.E. Uhuru Kenyatta & Rt. Hon. Raila Odinga. Why both? Because it's just business to me. I am not a politician & have no desire to be one. As such, I treat them both as Brands. (Just like the Corporate Clients I work for).
2. I have no allegiance to any of these 2 people. I rejected any political work this time round. It shocked many who kept adding the value of their offers. Truthfully, I did it because I did not want to be involved in a tribal circus. I foresaw how divisive the campaigns would be. My conscience would not allow me to be partisan to dividing this country in the name of a generous payday.
3. When I called out NASA's demonstrations, I did it because I am anti-violence & anti-anarchy. But no, I was labelled a Jubilee Psychophant. Others said it is because I am half Kikuyu. LOL!
4. When I called out H.E.'s reckless behaviour, I did so because rule of law must be followed even when one does not feel like. But no, I was labelled a sell-out. Others even said my account had been hacked! Again, LOL!
Folks, let me set the record straight.
I) Being a "Kikuyu" does not mean I should vote or support Uhuru. Such thinking is backward & shallow.
II) Having a "Kikuyu" Presidency does not make me better placed to succeed in life or in business. Kikuyus will not be invited to State House to be given 10k each. Neither will we get free tenders.
III) The 'Presidency' only benefits the 'inner circle'. If you are not in this league, do not expect your life to change, regardless of whether it is Uhuru or Raila in power. Your bank account will continue to observe status quo.
If we truly understood these truths, why would we still hate each other? We need to unite on the basis of the shared need for progress. Hating someone because they are not from the same tribe as I am has never been a thought for me, & nothing will ever make it one. Similarly, coming from the 'same tribe' will never make me align with someone. Such thinking will never have any space in my mind. Neither should it fill any vacancy in yours.
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Bigchick wrote:Meanwhile what is Elastoplast Rutos position?Is he still headed to Canaan?
I hear Hassan Omar is campaigning for Jubilee huko Mambasani.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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