I find jews repulsive and intolerant, but kyuks are not alone in claiming linkages to jews (TBH had no idea they think that way). I know Jang'os sometime think of themselves as the jews of Kenya/Africa. Stupid I know .

This must be due to a need to be closer to our adopted God.

By the way Ethiopians who migrated to Israel claiming kinship with Solommon through Sheba are going through hell. Discrimination, harrasment plus they are now being deported illegally to Rwanda and Uganda through some dodgy arrangment between Israel, Kagame & M7.

Exactly! Timing. September would be a good time for it.

The point is someone thinks that the Kikuyus are arrogant for voting as a tribal unit just like everyone else.

it's not an argument!!! kikuyus have always had someone on the ballot since 92 and that is fine!! the only time luos didn't have someone "proper" on the ballot was 2002. Luos and Kikuyus each vote for themselves... na ni sawa!! but why does the claim stick when it's thrown at kyuks? stop "reasoning" it out! it's a perception matter! I was addressing the reason for the perception. Deleting this thread does not delete these notions and perceptions from people's heads!! It has nothing to do with voting as a tribal unit!! it has everything to do with the PERCEPTION that some kikuyus think they are superior to others!! I am telling you where those perceptions come from!! some is insensitivity! things like speaking your mother tongue to others and in public places.... (it's not an argument... i am telling you HOW IT APPEARS regardless of how it was intended). has anyone ever received that "kujua lugha ya taifa" rejoinder after someone mistakenly spoke kyuk to you and you said you don't speak kikuyu? I have heard a number of people being told that!! the person speaking may say it as a joke but it may not be taken as a joke!

If a girl rejects you - you don't write a piece of paper explaining how well suited you are for her... you reach out and try and figure out... KWA NINI AMENIKATAA? the reasons she could have rejected you could be real or imaginary but since you want her - you address her 'concerns'. I am that guy who is telling you WHY she is rejecting you and you are busy telling me... NO!! SHE SHOULD NOT REJECT ME BECAUSE OF X,Y,Z - Bro!! She has!! Deal with it!!


@Muchr,,


it's not fair... DEAL WITH IT!! THAT IS WHY I STARTED WITH A QUOTE!!

I will get a bit personal.

You married off your tribe and it pisses you off big time that the people around you speak a language that leaves your significant other out. You get offended by the fact that she cannot easily assimilate and you can do nothing about it. Fact is, no one has any reason to conform to what you want. Those Kikuyu speaking people will continue to speak however they want and they should not have any reason WHATSOEVER to be apologetic.

Hapa Masukuma anafaa anyue maji an ali-relax. There is no point to be made here

actually no!! they love her!! really...
secondly... it's really their choice really!! you choose 1 of 2 things:

1) to continue as-is and match forward in total disregard of what I say
2) to try and understand WHY and address theses concerns (real or imaginary)

remember, while you chose what you want to do - you don't choose how others perceive you! Remember, I am a messenger... hii ni salamu tu! Ujumbe waja kesho!!

I personally think that if Uhuru wins - a certain notion will cement itself in the heads of people! the notion that "they are better" especially the 'jews' thinking lot! if rejected - they will need to rebuild! try and figure out where they lost the plot! Ethnic political hegemony in the last couple of years has solidified this notion! Dismissive/Arrogant statements like 'kukula nyama - wengine wakimeza mate' have united people around you.
Ask yourself - why are Kisii's not supporting you? why are Luhyas not supporting you? I will not be surprised if Somalis don't!

Oh pris stop with these crocodile tears. Ati if Kikuyus heard this they shall feel bad.

It is Kikuyus on this forum saying it!

We have had enough of these race baiting tactics on this forum. They are terrible and shallow.

Murchr, stop trying to change history here. It's impossible. Kibaki is the only president in this country to get country wide support. In fact, people used to wait for him to say mavi ya kuku. So stop implying that he was only percieved as a statesman in Nyeri. Ask him.

I have seen 3 attempts to bring Kalonzo in this conversation. It's not part of the topic and to be honest with you, it looks very bad on your prefered candidate Sonko. Ama you missed Sonko and Kalonzo on phone?

When talking about shida ya Uhuru na Ruto, aren't you saying exactly what Masukuma is saying? People don't have a problem with Uhuru personally even in Nyanza. Lakini, you mbrogas have a problem.

The good thing about the internet is that it never forgets. I can quote for you jubiree mbrogas here. All of them Kikuyu. We all have seen what they have been writing. How come I have not seen the same vitriol and bullshit from Kalenjin Jubilee mbrogas? In fact, you still have not apologized for bringing Masukuma's wife into this.

Guys I'm telling you here. As an old man. Wacheni huu ujinga. People don't hate Kikuyus. But surely, if you call Nyanza people looters and stone throwers and expect them to vote for you, you are stretching reality.

Where can I buy a 'new tribal tag'? I have been looking for 90bob unga with little success. Now where is this meat I a supposedly eating?