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Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege? Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. To Each His Own
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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kayhara wrote:Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege? Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. Kenyatta was homeguardism through and through. If you were a homeguard, you made it. Moi was not a tribalist. The proof is the number of psychophants in his gov't who were spread out in each and every community. There is no single community which did not have a chotara like character. Kibaki was Muthaigaism - Which wasn't that bad when you think about it. We got great projects done by him and his nusu mkate gov't Uhuru is on another level. Uthamakistan is real. I lived through these gov't's and I can assure you that the only comparison to the behavior of Uthamakistan is none of the above. The above are just my personal views and are unlikely to change based on the comments from Uthamakistanians on this forum. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,938
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Lolest! wrote:'Stepping aside' from the big seat will do nyumba a great deal of good.
The ordinary guy in Mareira can set up shop in Siaya without fear unlike now And not vice verse In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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alma1 wrote:kayhara wrote:Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege? Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. Kenyatta was homeguardism through and through. If you were a homeguard, you made it. Moi was not a tribalist. The proof is the number of psychophants in his gov't who were spread out in each and every community. There is no single community which did not have a chotara like character. Kibaki was Muthaigaism - Which wasn't that bad when you think about it. We got great projects done by him and his nusu mkate gov't Uhuru is on another level. Uthamakistan is real. I lived through these gov't's and I can assure you that the only comparison to the behavior of Uthamakistan is none of the above. The above are just my personal views and are unlikely to change based on the comments from Uthamakistanians on this forum. Clearly, you did not know Moi. You would know who filled all the top positions and messengers in government and parastatals. Kenyatta was a homeguard in prison? BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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2012 wrote:The sentiments expressed in this thread are the reasons that encourage nyumba people to mobilize the community and vote as a unit to the last wo/man with the perfect precision and efficiency of ants. This is so true. I sometimes pity Kikuyus, and often wonder why the animosity towards them. To the extent that Kalonzo could not help himself, he managed to piss on a NASWA rally, just to disparage Kikuyus ( largely) Take it - UK will win. I am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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2012 wrote:alma1 wrote:kayhara wrote:Just asking i was a young lad during the M01 rule, did HOUSE privilege exist then or did it pop up during Kenyatta, die during Moi and resurrect during Kibaki, Does this mean if baba wins we shall have Luo privilege? during M01 was there Kale privilege? Only privilege I know is who is your father, who are you related to if you are from the house and your family does not even have a teacher who can call a friend in a high place then you don't have a shred of privilege, if you are from the lake and your cousin works at CBK man you have privilege from here to Timbuktu. Kenyatta was homeguardism through and through. If you were a homeguard, you made it. Moi was not a tribalist. The proof is the number of psychophants in his gov't who were spread out in each and every community. There is no single community which did not have a chotara like character. Kibaki was Muthaigaism - Which wasn't that bad when you think about it. We got great projects done by him and his nusu mkate gov't Uhuru is on another level. Uthamakistan is real. I lived through these gov't's and I can assure you that the only comparison to the behavior of Uthamakistan is none of the above. The above are just my personal views and are unlikely to change based on the comments from Uthamakistanians on this forum. Clearly, you did not know Moi. You would know who filled all the top positions and messengers in government and parastatals. Kenyatta was a homeguard in prison? I know it's popular these days for people to try and change history. History doesn't work like that. I saw a post here of someone blaming Raila for the 82 coup. History says otherwise. In fact history says the homeguards in the first gov't tried each and every trick in the book to remove him or simply not have him as president. I am aware of the number of Kaleos in parastatal jobs at his time. But when you really think about it, what was the number of kyuks in the same parastatals? Or before Moi? Numbers, please. Don't forget to add the current gov't. Numbers, please. Moi was a dictator. Calling him a tribalist is minimizing the mess that was created. All current political leaders from Uhuru, Kalonzo, Raila, Ruto, name them are Kanu children. All of the them. Labda Joho, Sonko na Kabogo. This Uthamakistan is a new breed. Bred by the fake notion that Kikuyus were suppressed during Moi's time. Kwani who were Kamotho, Chotara, Kenyatta, Kibaki, Saitoti? Indians? Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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2012 wrote:The sentiments expressed in this thread are the reasons that encourage nyumba people to mobilize the community and vote as a unit to the last wo/man with the perfect precision and efficiency of ants. I once contemplated a kalooser presidency coz he seemed sober enough, then the famous ' your name betrays you' followed by 'lay low like antelopes' all directed at nyumba. Man, that just solidifies nyumba's vote to the man. Normal human behavior for self preservation i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,333 Location: Masada
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Masukuma is on point. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:2012 wrote:The sentiments expressed in this thread are the reasons that encourage nyumba people to mobilize the community and vote as a unit to the last wo/man with the perfect precision and efficiency of ants. I once contemplated a kalooser presidency coz he seemed sober enough, then the famous ' your name betrays you' followed by 'lay low like antelopes' all directed at nyumba. Man, that just solidifies nyumba's vote to the man. Normal human behavior for self preservation We should be realistic. Kenyans vote on tribal groupings. Uhuru has his grouping and Raila has his. Until we grow up and learn otherwise, may the biggest tribal grouping win overwhelmingly and clearly and we move on. This is the reality. Anyway we could be waste time here, 98% of the voters are already decided. @Harry,That's true about the melon, I know many nyumba people would have preferred him in 2022 over WSR if he spoke to them nicely after all, they're no signs of an emerging candidate from the nyumba for 2022. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Impunity wrote:Masukuma is on point.
That okuyos should lie low like envelopes (antelopes)???
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