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Nairobi from a county to Capital city
Rollins
#21 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 11:43:39 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
Metch wrote:
majimaji wrote:

Personally, i would prefer Nairobi to be divided further into 5 counties. We Nairobians are under represented.

Am thinking the opposite. Its other counties that should be merged. Kenya should have not more than 10 counties. Why have a multitude of counties that cannot pay for their own expenses?

Agreed.

I was anti Counties/Devil-ution before the new constitution* and I am still anti Counties/Devil-ution now. But I have stated here before, if we cannot get rid of Counties, let us have a maximum of 8 to 10. But I still prefer zero!!! I would rather we devolve money and use employees (as opposed to elected idiots) if that is the only way to ensure that each corner of the country gets a fair share of the cake we all bake!!!

*It is well documented in past posts that I was against devolution and warned all who listened that devolution would devolve corruption, will increase the wage bill to levels never seen (or even imagined) before in the country, will balkanize the country, will institutionalize tribalism etc. etc. Unfortunately for the country, all these things have come to pass. Get rid of this bloody counties. Kenya is too small to subdivided this way.

This is the problem with copy pasting. The governor of Califonia for example runs the 4th biggest economy in the world. The some clowns go to their constitution and copy paste the idea and come up with groupings of villages most of which are not economically viable and call them counties!!! Village groupings that have to get money from the National government even for recurrent expenditure! WTF!!??


Boss, Corruption has been with us longer than devolution. I will keep repeating that devolution is the best thing to have happened in Kenya. You do write from a lot of ignorance or bile Sir!
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MaichBlack
#22 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 2:18:48 PM
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Rollins wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
Metch wrote:
majimaji wrote:

Personally, i would prefer Nairobi to be divided further into 5 counties. We Nairobians are under represented.

Am thinking the opposite. Its other counties that should be merged. Kenya should have not more than 10 counties. Why have a multitude of counties that cannot pay for their own expenses?

Agreed.

I was anti Counties/Devil-ution before the new constitution* and I am still anti Counties/Devil-ution now. But I have stated here before, if we cannot get rid of Counties, let us have a maximum of 8 to 10. But I still prefer zero!!! I would rather we devolve money and use employees (as opposed to elected idiots) if that is the only way to ensure that each corner of the country gets a fair share of the cake we all bake!!!

*It is well documented in past posts that I was against devolution and warned all who listened that devolution would devolve corruption, will increase the wage bill to levels never seen (or even imagined) before in the country, will balkanize the country, will institutionalize tribalism etc. etc. Unfortunately for the country, all these things have come to pass. Get rid of this bloody counties. Kenya is too small to subdivided this way.

This is the problem with copy pasting. The governor of Califonia for example runs the 4th biggest economy in the world. The some clowns go to their constitution and copy paste the idea and come up with groupings of villages most of which are not economically viable and call them counties!!! Village groupings that have to get money from the National government even for recurrent expenditure! WTF!!??


Boss, Corruption has been with us longer than devolution. I will keep repeating that devolution is the best thing to have happened in Kenya. You do write from a lot of ignorance or bile Sir!

Here is some ignorance
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MaichBlack
#23 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 2:23:11 PM
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And some more ignorance

What a nice thing to happen to this our country!!!
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#24 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 3:00:02 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Looks like Central govt wants to eat from Nairobi.


It would be better than what is happening right now. By the time Kidero is done with it, it will be as finished as Mumias Sugar.

BBI will solve it
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hardwood
#25 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 3:38:49 PM
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I think they want Nairobi to be governed like Washington DC, which is the seat of the federal govt and under direct control of the federal govt. Changing Nairobi's status in line with American system is understandable since we adopted the American style constitution in our new katiba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_district
Angelica _ann
#26 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 3:40:23 PM
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[quote=hardwood]I think they want Nairobi to be governed like Washington DC, which is the seat of the federal govt and under direct control of the federal govt. Changing Nairobi's status in line with American system is understandable since we adopted the American constitution in our new katiba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_district[/quote]
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kayhara
#27 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 3:47:31 PM
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How likely is it that this will pass, does katiba allow it.
To Each His Own
hardwood
#28 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 3:52:33 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=hardwood]I think they want Nairobi to be governed like Washington DC, which is the seat of the federal govt and under direct control of the federal govt. Changing Nairobi's status in line with American system is understandable since we adopted the American constitution in our new katiba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_district[/quote]
This one is jokes, we will not allow the only nyama 'we' have to go easily!!!!!


I support the move. Our national govt needs to have a home, just like the US govt has a home in Washington DC which it directly controls.
hardwood
#29 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 3:59:59 PM
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C&P

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Washington’s legal status is unique within America. When the nation was founded, its statesmen worried that if the capital were situated within a state, that state might exercise undue power over the national government. Consequently, the constitution allows for the creation of “a district” for the capital, and grants Congress complete authority over this capital district. The resultant District of Columbia was formed out of parts of Maryland and Virginia (although Virginia’s part was eventually returned). Ever since, Washington has been governed by Congress, directly or indirectly.
Angelica _ann
#30 Posted : Friday, December 09, 2016 4:02:43 PM
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hardwood wrote:
C&P

Quote:
Washington’s legal status is unique within America. When the nation was founded, its statesmen worried that if the capital were situated within a state, that state might exercise undue power over the national government. Consequently, the constitution allows for the creation of “a district” for the capital, and grants Congress complete authority over this capital district. The resultant District of Columbia was formed out of parts of Maryland and Virginia (although Virginia’s part was eventually returned). Ever since, Washington has been governed by Congress, directly or indirectly.

Governored by Congress not some thieving JP!!!!!!
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