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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine  Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts What the Kethi Kilonzo drama showed me was... it's dangerous to have responsibility. there was a guy called Lemiso who kept the key for the safe where the voter slips were kept as soon as it disappeared and appeared on Kethi's hands... the guy who has the custody of the slips is put on the dock. So there is an LPO somewhere or a wire trail going back to a guy who has 'custody' <-- that's the guy to apply pressure on. Kama mimi Kabura siwezi sema chochote! why jikaanga? it's not in her interest to rat herself out. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply? She said that non of her 20 companies had any pre-qualification infact she doesnt understand what that is Even if she wasn't in the database, is that her problem? If a client walked to your office with a list of items they want supplied, would you refuse and demand pre-qualification and tenders? Also you mean an IT expert (yes she said that she previously worked for Kenya Data Networks as an IT expert - maybe she is a programmer) who had been supplying govt even before waiguru was appointed CS doesn't understand supply manenos and cant even read?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts What the Kethi Kilonzo drama showed me was... it's dangerous to have responsibility. there was a guy called Lemiso who kept the key for the safe where the voter slips were kept as soon as it disappeared and appeared on Kethi's hands... the guy who has the custody of the slips is put on the dock. So there is an LPO somewhere or a wire trail going back to a guy who has 'custody' <-- that's the guy to apply pressure on. Kama mimi Kabura siwezi sema chochote! why jikaanga? it's not in her interest to rat herself out. Kabura, clearly was being used by the procurement guys at the ministry, if you listen to the proceedings when they were reading the inflows and outflows of cash from her 1 account roof and all trading the trail was .... deposit 30M 11 march - withdrawal 1m 2m 10m in cash different days or different time. Mind you, she is the only employee in these 20 companies. Take a listen https://youtu.be/frnywLDunSU?t=52m42s
Chrispin sankale ako mashakani "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Ironical that MPigs who never pay taxes are demanding to know if kabura paid taxes.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:Ironical that MPigs who never pay taxes are demanding to know if kabura paid taxes. For as much s i can remember you have always unashamedly tried to divert or twist stories from matters touching on this lords of impunity of yours.relax The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:Companies and institutions always have a database of pre-qualified suppliers. So if a company prepares an LPO and calls supplier X in their database and gives her the LPO, should she refuse to supply? She said that non of her 20 companies had any pre-qualification infact she doesnt understand what that is Neither does mbaongumu know what that is! Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/18/2012 Posts: 94
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Did you see the part where the lady came to help her locate something in the documents she was looking at and had to turn the book/file around. It looked like it had been upside down.
And why were these people talking over each other and asking multiple questions at the same time? No wonder she was answering what she wanted to answer. They should have divided all the info they had into sections, assigned responsibility of each to one individual, they had that person ask one question at at time until that section was done then move to the next one. They just looked unprofessional.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts What the Kethi Kilonzo drama showed me was... it's dangerous to have responsibility. there was a guy called Lemiso who kept the key for the safe where the voter slips were kept as soon as it disappeared and appeared on Kethi's hands... the guy who has the custody of the slips is put on the dock. So there is an LPO somewhere or a wire trail going back to a guy who has 'custody' <-- that's the guy to apply pressure on. Kama mimi Kabura siwezi sema chochote! why jikaanga? it's not in her interest to rat herself out. Kabura, clearly was being used by the procurement guys at the ministry, if you listen to the proceedings when they were reading the inflows and outflows of cash from her 1 account roof and all trading the trail was .... deposit 30M 11 march - withdrawal 1m 2m 10m in cash different days or different time. Mind you, she is the only employee in these 20 companies. Take a listen https://youtu.be/frnywLDunSU?t=52m42s
Chrispin sankale ako mashakani Interesting days ahead
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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enyands wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:murchr wrote:hardwood wrote:murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu If Nakumatt contracts you to supply their stores with sukuma wiki, and then issues arise regarding payments, then it is the Nakumatt finance officer who should answer any audit questions or kufungwa, not the supplier. Quote:317. Conspiracy to defraud
Any person who conspires with another by deceit or any fraudulent means to affect the market price of anything publicly sold, or to defraud the public or any person, whether a particular person or not, or to extort any property from any person, is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for three years. Quote:CHAPTER V – PARTIES TO OFFENCES
20. Principal offenders
(1) When an offence is committed, each of the following persons is deemed to have taken part in committing the offence and to be guilty of the offence, and may be charged with actually committing it, that is to say—
(a) every person who actually does the act or makes the omission which constitutes the offence;
(b) every person who does or omits to do any act for the purpose of enabling or aiding another person to commit the offence;
(c) every person who aids or abets another person in committing the offence;
(d) any person who counsels or procures any other person to commit the offence So you must draw a dotted line between the person who gave the tender and the one who was given. So the only person who will rat out Kabura is the guy who signed the LPO! She doesnt want to state who that is. She keeps claiming that she was called by the procurement department. The woman doesnt even know how to read the statements clearly she was not in this alone. But she is the signatory of the bank accounts What the Kethi Kilonzo drama showed me was... it's dangerous to have responsibility. there was a guy called Lemiso who kept the key for the safe where the voter slips were kept as soon as it disappeared and appeared on Kethi's hands... the guy who has the custody of the slips is put on the dock. So there is an LPO somewhere or a wire trail going back to a guy who has 'custody' <-- that's the guy to apply pressure on. Kama mimi Kabura siwezi sema chochote! why jikaanga? it's not in her interest to rat herself out. Kabura, clearly was being used by the procurement guys at the ministry, if you listen to the proceedings when they were reading the inflows and outflows of cash from her 1 account roof and all trading the trail was .... deposit 30M 11 march - withdrawal 1m 2m 10m in cash different days or different time. Mind you, she is the only employee in these 20 companies. Take a listen https://youtu.be/frnywLDunSU?t=52m42s
Chrispin sankale ako mashakani Interesting days ahead http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...aspx?g=posts&t=32914
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Tara wrote:Did you see the part where the lady came to help her locate something in the documents she was looking at and had to turn the book/file around. It looked like it had been upside down.
And why were these people talking over each other and asking multiple questions at the same time? No wonder she was answering what she wanted to answer. They should have divided all the info they had into sections, assigned responsibility of each to one individual, they had that person ask one question at at time until that section was done then move to the next one. They just looked unprofessional. Kwanza the most annoying part was that woman who came in late and started asking questions that had been asked and settled earlier. And the others who were asking leading questions...very useless.  "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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My all-time favourite.
Chairman : how did you carry 100 million ?
Josephine : safely.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu The pipeline is our culture. we have all played part in creating he society we currently have and we are moulding our children to carry on with our legacy.The only reason why we are condemning this is because we lack the opportunity to steal/loot If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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What will the Mpig committee achieve?. Evidence?. A conviction?. Lemme guess. NOTHING!!. They are as helpless as Uhuru!. That's it! Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Kabuki was very well advised and her sponsor must have hired the lawyer who sat next to her for their own interest. The only area anyone can find fault in Kabura is tax remittance/declarations and maybe money laundering which is almost impossible to prove in our well rigged court system, otherwise she has no case to answer.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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FRM2011 wrote:My all-time favourite.
Chairman : how did you carry 100 million ?
Josephine : safely.
That's how to answer a clueless committee. Kabura was just a conduit just like Kago, the millionaire driver. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,057 Location: Gwitu
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Could any one who thinks that anybody will go to jail because of this scandal raise their hands? Ok...you can put them down. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,910
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Njung'e wrote:What will the Mpig committee achieve?. Evidence?. A conviction?. Lemme guess. NOTHING!!. They are as helpless as Uhuru!. That's it! That, we accepted and moved on kitambooooo!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Dunia ni duara! yani the biggest issue US erections ni Email!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Tara wrote:Did you see the part where the lady came to help her locate something in the documents she was looking at and had to turn the book/file around. It looked like it had been upside down.
And why were these people talking over each other and asking multiple questions at the same time? No wonder she was answering what she wanted to answer. They should have divided all the info they had into sections, assigned responsibility of each to one individual, they had that person ask one question at at time until that section was done then move to the next one. They just looked unprofessional. They are but mercenaries,remember when CS concerned appeared before them! 
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/27/2016 Posts: 11 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:murchr wrote:This case, the one of that pitching guy who installed and ERP just shows the procurement system is broken somewhere.
Kabura is/was being used as a conduit. She received contract not just from NYS but lands, sports etc...clearly someone in government was giving these contract.......esp those who civil servants in the procurement dept Let Kabura aende Langata Womens' ili iwe funzo kwa wengine Kufungwa ata fungwa but the pipeline needs to be repaired. Wako wengi hawa watu This just goes to show that the system has failed, as much as I believe we Kenyans are easily corrupted by those around us, alot of the corruption and theft that takes place could have been easily avoided if their was a willingness on the part of the executive to weed out the corruption. Kabura can go to Langata today but the real masterminds will still be out there skimming there next big heist.
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