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Of govt lies and fishy statistics
Nandwa
#21 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 10:49:42 AM
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FRM2011
#22 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:43:27 PM
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KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.
Jus Blazin
#23 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:57:46 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:


KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.

Maybe he meant sh1B not 1Bkg. Anyway, I again ask, since agriculture was devolved to county governments, what are those 5 governors in counties surrounding L. Victoria doing about the said decline of production, when the demand is increasing, as per KNBS?
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sitaki.kujulikana
#24 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:04:04 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:


KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.

does it mean someone can not import something if the same is found locally, I would have an issue if the importers are evading tax or something, but if they are doing it in the right way then its down to competition, wacha customer achague what they want.
what I find odd is that the imports might be cheaper than even the equal quality local equivalent
FRM2011
#25 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:04:38 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:


KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.

Maybe he meant sh1B not 1Bkg. Anyway, I again ask, since agriculture was devolved to county governments, what are those 5 governors in counties surrounding L. Victoria doing about the said decline of production, when the demand is increasing, as per KNBS?



He has been very categorical. That we have a deficit of 800,000 tonnes. But we now know ODM would be a worse alternative than the thieving duo. I imagine they are smiling quietly, the poorer your voters are the more subservient they become.
Jus Blazin
#26 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:15:16 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:


KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.

Maybe he meant sh1B not 1Bkg. Anyway, I again ask, since agriculture was devolved to county governments, what are those 5 governors in counties surrounding L. Victoria doing about the said decline of production, when the demand is increasing, as per KNBS?



He has been very categorical. That we have a deficit of 800,000 tonnes. But we now know ODM would be a worse alternative than the thieving duo. I imagine they are smiling quietly, the poorer your voters are the more subservient they become.

You are still skirting around my question. What are the five gavanas of Migori, HomaBay, Siaya, Busia and Kisumu doing about this issue of dwindling production against cheaper competition?
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#27 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:35:14 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:


KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.

Maybe he meant sh1B not 1Bkg. Anyway, I again ask, since agriculture was devolved to county governments, what are those 5 governors in counties surrounding L. Victoria doing about the said decline of production, when the demand is increasing, as per KNBS?



He has been very categorical. That we have a deficit of 800,000 tonnes. But we now know ODM would be a worse alternative than the thieving duo. I imagine they are smiling quietly, the poorer your voters are the more subservient they become.

You are still skirting around my question. What are the five gavanas of Migori, HomaBay, Siaya, Busia and Kisumu doing about this issue of dwindling production against cheaper competition?


The chinese imports (assuming they are hygienic) are actually good for everyone. They will reduce over fishing which in turn will allow the lake fish stocks to replenish its stocks, and at the same time people will buy fish at 20% the current prices.

There is no rule which says that Kenyans must eat fish from lake victoria
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Obi 1 Kanobi
#28 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:38:11 PM
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Contrary to what many here assume, the people of Nyanza do not rely on fishing. I don't think the fishing industry even makes up 20% of the regions economy. Secondly the areas directly touching on the lake shores are the poorest in Nyanza.
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FRM2011
#29 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:39:25 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:


KNBS says our consumption per capita is 7kgs annually. The fisheries PS jerks up the figure to 20kgs to justify allowing the imports.

But if ODM leaders cannot take up such a straight forward matter that affects their people so directly, may be Jubilee should rule up to 2032.

does it mean someone can not import something if the same is found locally, I would have an issue if the importers are evading tax or something, but if they are doing it in the right way then its down to competition, wacha customer achague what they want.
what I find odd is that the imports might be cheaper than even the equal quality local equivalent


Eich boss ! No you cannot. That's why there is a regulator. You only allow imports when there is a deficit.

Same for sugar, dairy and many other products.
Jus Blazin
#30 Posted : Tuesday, September 20, 2016 1:40:28 PM
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Good point @Obi.
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