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chemirocha wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:chemirocha wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Red or Blue makes no difference so long as it is the establishment that continues. Therefore, because Trump is not from the establishment, the establishment is ganging up against him to support their own. This American elections have always been a charade and this one will be no exception. Putting the gimmicks aside, Trump is as pro-establishment as Clinton. Evidence suggests otherwise. They say, as well rehashed by their so-inclined MSM sources, that he is 'dangerous'. A fib told a thousand times becomes a truth to the average American, like clock work always. What evidence? Trump's proposed policies on healthcare, tax reform and global trade are pro-elite. The other day he rubbished the TTIP that was to flood EU with lower quality stuff as 'rape'. He praised Brexit and compared NAFTA with Mexico. 'Make America Great Again' he says. Well, those who've been running the show don't show that like the criticism of their policies.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Anti_Burglar wrote:chemirocha wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:chemirocha wrote:Anti_Burglar wrote:Red or Blue makes no difference so long as it is the establishment that continues. Therefore, because Trump is not from the establishment, the establishment is ganging up against him to support their own. This American elections have always been a charade and this one will be no exception. Putting the gimmicks aside, Trump is as pro-establishment as Clinton. Evidence suggests otherwise. They say, as well rehashed by their so-inclined MSM sources, that he is 'dangerous'. A fib told a thousand times becomes a truth to the average American, like clock work always. What evidence? Trump's proposed policies on healthcare, tax reform and global trade are pro-elite. The other day he rubbished the TTIP that was to flood EU with lower quality stuff as 'rape'. He praised Brexit and compared NAFTA with Mexico. 'Make America Great Again' he says. Well, those who've been running the show don't show that like the criticism of their policies. Condemning free trade in the interest of "protecting American jobs" is yet another publicity gimmick. In practice closed trade benefits Trump and his billionaire buddies the most. You seriously have to do better than that to prove the Donald is a man of the people.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/11/2015 Posts: 1,024
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But, but, but, Chemirocha, I was showing he (at least currently) is not a man of the establishment. Surely you are reading what I have not written. For laughs, he kicked out a crying baby in one of his campaigns, so he is anti-baby. Lol.
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We are looking at trump as if he has been a politician or in public service before, as for clinton you can label her as establishment or not, or a peoples person or not, but trump is just a 'mono' in this political maneno, and for him we have no past experience to base assumptions on.
Whats worse for him is that the liberals and majority if not all media outlets seem to not like him at all based sorely on what comes out of his mouth, but the good book advises against judging by talks alone. the best we can do for him is to check the kind of people he employs in his companies, how he pays them, how he treats them, the kind of business partners he prefers e.t.c, otherwise I don't believe you can remain a billionaire by acting out what trump speaks and I guess he is just speaking like that to get media airtime.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/30/2016 Posts: 332 Location: Rift Valley
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Anti_Burglar wrote:But, but, but, Chemirocha, I was showing he (at least currently) is not a man of the establishment. Surely you are reading what I have not written. For laughs, he kicked out a crying baby in one of his campaigns, so he is anti-baby. Lol. Trump is a parody for the greed and lies of the US political system. Even with the madness and excess, Trump is a status quo candidate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote: the best we can do for him is to check the kind of people he employs in his companies, how he pays them, how he treats them, the kind of business partners he prefers e.t.c, otherwise I don't believe you can remain a billionaire by acting out what trump speaks and I guess he is just speaking like that to get media airtime.
Actually... I am not a billionaire but billionaires say he is not a good business man either. He started off with a "small loan" of 1 million dollars plus lie 40M in inheritance from his dad - a multimillionaire New York real estate developer. It's claimed that if he had that 1M and did nothing - he would have been worth more . He has left a trail of bankruptcies behind him, complaining people. He says A and does B. His ties and stuff are made in China. He does not want to come clean on how much he is really worth. it's quite possible that he is not a billionaire.... some real billionaires are doubting his claim... not sure how much debt he has...e.t.c. He has not shared his tax returns. I have not heard anyone question Warren Buffet for not being a good investor, or Bill gates for not being a good technology business man. But Trump.... many people with more than 9 digits of dollars of worth claim he is questionable. But whatever it is he has - is still a load more than we do All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Why so much hate against Trump? No matter how much mud we throw at him on this forum it will be up to Americans to decide whether to choose him as their leader or not. So, screaming one's lungs out against his candidature on this forum is useless and fruitless.
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Trump is just proof that the GOP is a party of imbeciles. He is in over his head but keeps digging. Plus Warren Bufffet expressed reservations about his character which normally is enuf for me. The guy is a lemon. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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