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The world, particularly the English speaking world, needs a strong America (under Trump) and a strong Britain (out of the suffocating EU). #Make_America_and_Britain_Great_Again.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/25/2015 Posts: 839 Location: Kite
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Impunity wrote:hardwood wrote:In my view, Britain will be better out of the EU. For the British, this free movement within the EU has really strained their country when it comes to jobs, housing, healthcare, education etc, coz many within the new and less prosperous EU countries eg Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, want to head to greener pastures in the UK. And with Turkey, and funny eastern Europe countries like Macedonia planning to join the EU, the situation will only get worse. Not to mention they have had to prop weak economies like Greece via the EU.
When it comes to trade, Britain can still sign trade agreements with EU countries. Also Britain is bound to trade more with her former colonies i.e the commonwealth countries and here countries like Kenya will gain immensely.
For defense/security purposes, they are members of NATO, which is not synonymous to the EU, and will still have to cooperate with the EU countries via NATO.
When it comes to power and influence on the world stage, they are bound to have more clout unlike now when their say is diluted within the EU.
Kenya is bound to gain greatly with Brexit. Britain has traditionally been Kenya's biggest and most important trading partner and exports destination. It's also largest source of tourists. Kenyan farmers used to trade with Britain without issues until the EU came up with crazy regulations which has made it very tough particularly for Kenyan small scale horticultural exporters. We can say that our trading was going on well until the EU came in between us and our most important trading partner. We can still trade with the EU with their tough regulations and maybe sign new more friendly trade agreements with Britain. A big advantage for us is that we will be able to talk directly to Britain regarding trade without going through the EU.
Kenyans will remember that not so long ago Kenyan nurses, doctors and other professionals could easily get work in Britain and move over there before EU regulations were changed and said that member countries had to recruit from the EU member countries. Britain will also now be able to recruit top talent from the whole world since it wont be bound by those crazy EU regulations.
Also Britain's influence in the world has been fading since the days of "the empire where the sun never sets" upto now when it has been swallowed by the EU, and bound by regulation made in Brussels. It's ridiculous that British courts have in some occasions been overruled by EU court. Britain needs to regain it's independence and former glory. Make Britain great again, a Great Britain.
NB: Things have become "sooo bad" in Britain that recently an "immigrant Pakistani muslim" was elected as London mayor (of course helped greatly by the huge immigrant population). The conservatives must be crying in their bedrooms every night. Plagiarism nayo! Had doubt too!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Taurrus wrote:Impunity wrote:hardwood wrote:In my view, Britain will be better out of the EU. For the British, this free movement within the EU has really strained their country when it comes to jobs, housing, healthcare, education etc, coz many within the new and less prosperous EU countries eg Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, want to head to greener pastures in the UK. And with Turkey, and funny eastern Europe countries like Macedonia planning to join the EU, the situation will only get worse. Not to mention they have had to prop weak economies like Greece via the EU.
When it comes to trade, Britain can still sign trade agreements with EU countries. Also Britain is bound to trade more with her former colonies i.e the commonwealth countries and here countries like Kenya will gain immensely.
For defense/security purposes, they are members of NATO, which is not synonymous to the EU, and will still have to cooperate with the EU countries via NATO.
When it comes to power and influence on the world stage, they are bound to have more clout unlike now when their say is diluted within the EU.
Kenya is bound to gain greatly with Brexit. Britain has traditionally been Kenya's biggest and most important trading partner and exports destination. It's also largest source of tourists. Kenyan farmers used to trade with Britain without issues until the EU came up with crazy regulations which has made it very tough particularly for Kenyan small scale horticultural exporters. We can say that our trading was going on well until the EU came in between us and our most important trading partner. We can still trade with the EU with their tough regulations and maybe sign new more friendly trade agreements with Britain. A big advantage for us is that we will be able to talk directly to Britain regarding trade without going through the EU.
Kenyans will remember that not so long ago Kenyan nurses, doctors and other professionals could easily get work in Britain and move over there before EU regulations were changed and said that member countries had to recruit from the EU member countries. Britain will also now be able to recruit top talent from the whole world since it wont be bound by those crazy EU regulations.
Also Britain's influence in the world has been fading since the days of "the empire where the sun never sets" upto now when it has been swallowed by the EU, and bound by regulation made in Brussels. It's ridiculous that British courts have in some occasions been overruled by EU court. Britain needs to regain it's independence and former glory. Make Britain great again, a Great Britain.
NB: Things have become "sooo bad" in Britain that recently an "immigrant Pakistani muslim" was elected as London mayor (of course helped greatly by the huge immigrant population). The conservatives must be crying in their bedrooms every night. Plagiarism nayo! Had doubt too! Evidence, Mr One-liner?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/23/2011 Posts: 1,740 Location: Nairobi
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Kakwishe....now is the time for the British to be colonised, kwani when they colonised us they thought we were the lesser race.
Colonization will now be from EU and the rest of the world till no one will know who is a Briton, talk of half caste half caste
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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streetwise wrote:Kakwishe....now is the time for the British to be colonised, kwani when they colonised us they thought we were the lesser race.
Colonization will now be from EU and the rest of the world till no one will know who is a Briton, talk of half caste half caste
We are who we are because of Britain. The British founded Kenya and laid a foundation for us. Wishing ill to Britain is like wishing ill to your mother who painfully gave birth to you. FYI many other countries in the world like US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, Israel etc also owe their "existence" to Britain.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:The world, particularly the English speaking world, needs a strong America (under Trump) and a strong Britain (out of the suffocating EU). #Make_America_and_Britain_Great_Again. Sorry... human beings don't behave the way you want them to behave. you cannot have prosperous exclusive economies - not in this age of information and connectedness. For me - they are trying to close doors way after the people they want out are already in! the "make_[INSERT WHITE PEOPLE COUNTRY HERE]_strong_again" bandwagon is a couple of years late! Watu wako ndani! but definitely Europe will become worse than better in future - but what were they thinking? 1) they have a welfare state - funded by taxpayers plus minimum wages that push the price of products up? 2) businesses now produce in cheaper places of the world where there is no welfare state and minimum wages and so the working class in the welfare state laden countries suffers from operations closing down. 3) for the few businesses still operating in Europe under these conditions have options (cheaper options from immigrants who will accept less and work for longer) compared to the locals (with their taxes and welfare). in short.... MAKE BLAH BLAH GREAT AGAIN is a dream! that ship has sailed! cut down expenditure (and taxes) then try to attract businesses back not going to an extreme at looking at a guy who is hustling as your problem - he/she is the symptom of your problem not your problem. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Tokyo wrote:People need sovereign power over their territory. Vote OUT David Cameron "If we left, our neighbors will go on meeting and making decisions that profoundly affect us, affect our country, affect our jobs -- but we wouldn't be there. They would be making decisions about us, but without us." "I've seen firsthand in these dangerous times how we can better cooperate with our friends and neighbors, how we can share information, track terrorists down, bring them to justice," "belonging to the EU was good for Britain's economy, security and international standing http://edition.cnn.com/2...meron-speech/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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hardwood wrote:streetwise wrote:Kakwishe....now is the time for the British to be colonised, kwani when they colonised us they thought we were the lesser race.
Colonization will now be from EU and the rest of the world till no one will know who is a Briton, talk of half caste half caste
We are who we are because of Britain. The British founded Kenya and laid a foundation for us. Wishing ill to Britain is like wishing ill to your mother who painfully gave birth to you. FYI many other countries in the world like US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, Israel etc also owe their "existence" to Britain. so? they did not do it for our benefit! what we experienced was crumbs falling off their table! it was never in our interest the benefits are by products of their exploits. but anyway - maisha huwa hivyo! uliza Maori, Aborigines, American Indians juu ya hawa watu! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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masukuma wrote:hardwood wrote:The world, particularly the English speaking world, needs a strong America (under Trump) and a strong Britain (out of the suffocating EU). #Make_America_and_Britain_Great_Again. Sorry... human beings don't behave the way you want them to behave. you cannot have prosperous exclusive economies - not in this age of information and connectedness. For me - they are trying to close doors way after the people they want out are already in! the "make_[INSERT WHITE PEOPLE COUNTRY HERE]_strong_again" bandwagon is a couple of years late! Watu wako ndani! but definitely Europe will become worse than better in future - but what were they thinking? 1) they have a welfare state - funded by taxpayers plus minimum wages that push the price of products up? 2) businesses now produce in cheaper places of the world where there is no welfare state and minimum wages and so the working class in the welfare state laden countries suffers from operations closing down. 3) for the few businesses still operating in Europe under these conditions have options (cheaper options from immigrants who will accept less and work for longer) compared to the locals (with their taxes and welfare). in short.... MAKE BLAH BLAH GREAT AGAIN is a dream! that ship has sailed! cut down expenditure (and taxes) then try to attract businesses back not going to an extreme at looking at a guy who is hustling as your problem - he/she is the symptom of your problem not your problem. So basically you are saying that the EU experiment has been bad for Britain and the way out as per your recommendation is wavumilie? In my opinion, they should do something about their situation and reset the whole relationship with Europe. And it starts with leaving the EU and coming up with policies to help them rise up again.
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hardwood wrote:streetwise wrote:Kakwishe....now is the time for the British to be colonised, kwani when they colonised us they thought we were the lesser race.
Colonization will now be from EU and the rest of the world till no one will know who is a Briton, talk of half caste half caste
We are who we are because of Britain. The British founded Kenya and laid a foundation for us. Wishing ill to Britain is like wishing ill to your mother who painfully gave birth to you. FYI many other countries in the world like US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, Israel etc also owe their "existence" to Britain. I guess the Israelis should also be grateful to Hitler. If it were not for Hitler, Israel would not exist. Black people in America should also be grateful to the white people who took them there. If it were not for them they would be languishing in Africa. Naomba msamaha kama sikukuelewa vizuri.
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