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Edermann property
Jon Jones
#21 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 2:17:24 PM
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Lately, there is and will continue to be a real estate boom. However, there is a huge shift from buying bare land to buying apartments. As such, I dont foresee the cost of land appreciating at the same rate it used to appreciate before as the middle class avoid buying land and pursue apartments with that money. Developers will continue making a kill in the next few years as land brokers see a decline in the number of land transactions. Any young couple nowadays (most) would opt for an apartment than the bare land in the middle of nowhere. Simply put, it is a bad point in time to speculate on bare land and times have changed.
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Chaka
#22 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 2:21:01 PM
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They will build up to what floor?
Ryko
#23 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 2:46:59 PM
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Chaka floor ni tano. Except school and suprmarket. Funny enough the floor plans are of different sizes i.e 3 bedroom but zimewachana na 1 or 2 sq meters. Watch out the floor plans as you choose. Check there website to download detailed plan.


Chaka wrote:
They will build up to what floor?

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Ericsson
#24 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 4:24:18 PM
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If Erdeman was wise he could have built town houses/villas
Hizo zingeenda pap.Right now there is a glut for flats.
Greatwall phase one are now going for ksh.4m yet the first owners bought them for ksh.3mn in 2009 and early 2010.
Yaani wait for seven years to get a return of 33%.
Better investments are else where than buying erdeman property
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josimar
#25 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 4:40:09 PM
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Quote:
Lately, there is and will continue to be a real estate boom. However, there is a huge shift from buying bare land to buying apartments. As such, I dont foresee the cost of land appreciating at the same rate it used to appreciate before as the middle class avoid buying land and pursue apartments with that money. Developers will continue making a kill in the next few years as land brokers see a decline in the number of land transactions. Any young couple nowadays (most) would opt for an apartment than the bare land in the middle of nowhere. Simply put, it is a bad point in time to speculate on bare land and times have changed.


Boss , I would rather purchase a 1 million 1/8th plot in kitengela and put up a 3 bedroom standard finishing bungalow for 2 million than put up in an apartment.
instinct
#26 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 6:38:59 PM
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Has anyone looked at the downside of this?

1.Why have they slashed prices from 6m and 7m to 3m and 3.5m suddenly. They say when the deal is too good think twice.
2. They seem to be having problems with their Kisumu project. I.e. LBDA is not paying them and coopbank is demanding their money. 2.5b and 500m interest so far. Could they be having cashflow issues and they're using this to raise funds for other uses?
3. Do they allocate you a unit in phase 1 or in ph2 or 3? the wait could be long
4. Since they insist on 100%payment upfront payment, what fall back do you have if they delay in delivering your unit
Chaka
#27 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 8:33:32 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
If Erdeman was wise he could have built town houses/villas
Hizo zingeenda pap.Right now there is a glut for flats.
Greatwall phase one are now going for ksh.4m yet the first owners bought them for ksh.3mn in 2009 and early 2010.
Yaani wait for seven years to get a return of 33%.
Better investments are else where than buying erdeman property


For e,g?
bazuka
#28 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 8:33:58 PM
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instinct wrote:
Has anyone looked at the downside of this?

1.Why have they slashed prices from 6m and 7m to 3m and 3.5m suddenly. They say when the deal is too good think twice.
2. They seem to be having problems with their Kisumu project. I.e. LBDA is not paying them and coopbank is demanding their money. 2.5b and 500m interest so far. Could they be having cashflow issues and they're using this to raise funds for other uses?
3. Do they allocate you a unit in phase 1 or in ph2 or 3? the wait could be long
4. Since they insist on 100%payment upfront payment, what fall back do you have if they delay in delivering your unit


I remember a few years ago Greatwall Phase 1 also had some crazy discounts for cash buyers so personally I'm not too surprised by the discounted offer price. I was skeptical back then but seems the project completed successfully. However, the with the LBDA problems caution would be wise given the timing of the discount. The sales guy told me 1st floor units are over after middle class swarmed the site last week though it could be the normal sales guys lines. The point mentioned above about the alcohol factory is something to note. Having lived in the same area I can confirm some nights especially after rains there was a bad smell in the area. I suspect someone was dumping something(there is a river in the area near Mavuno).
Chaka
#29 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 8:40:07 PM
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bazuka wrote:
I own a unit in an estate very close to the same development (touching Mombasa road). Lived there for a while and it was generally ok but found the commute to CBD and back too hectic so I have rented it out and moved closer. The area is however good if you work in the vicinity.

How many b/r is the unit and what's the rent like?
Pesa Nane
#30 Posted : Monday, June 20, 2016 10:06:48 PM
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Chaka wrote:
@Pesa Nane, was that picture taken yesterday?

Correct.
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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