Pardon me, but I don't like it when people say South Africa got independent in 1994. It's just not true. SA was not a colony of any other country. It was a white minority ruled country.

The problem with the position that 'indigenous' people have to be in power for the country to be termed as independent is the puzzle that that would make for USA,Canada(has there been a Red Indian President, PM?), Australia, New Zealand etc

Also, how native is native? The Dutch have been in SA since 1652! Africans were still migrating then. The Ngoni just came to TZ in the 19th Century from SA running away from Shaka!

Anyway, hiyo ni mambo ya historia. Yes, mzungu gave us Kenya(or forced us into these borders and told us we are one). He built the state and the economy from scratch and profited from it. Then his time to go had to come, him, his chums, his managers everything. Your parents should not mother you forever!

true but it would be foolish to let your 13 year old kid off on his own, just because he can reproduce does not mean he is mature enough to manage a family, even though he insists that he wants to be on his own - you can build him a simba to give him a false sense of independence.

SA was a wrong example I agree, lets look at say falkland, pueto rico, guam, maybe even hongkong

This is one of those cliche issues. We have heard sons of homeguards were hired, the question is, why were they hired?

Answer: Education. Sons of Chiefs and other loyalists were the most educated. It made no sense to leave civil service to the illiterate and semi literate

And then, it was good for the young nation to forgive and forget

some also lied to us about 'original ideas'.... look at china... it does nothing original (rarely)... copy paste, steal ideas... move forward. Who tells you people are interested in original ideas? We want 'our own car'... we want our own X... who really cares? that is why we are focused on intellectual property.... We don't want to do the work to sell our IP and make it commercially viable. We somehow think once we think of something and create a prototype and can make it registered somewhere - we are set for life.... talk about entitlement. All intellectual talk is always around IP... patents and stuff.... none around doing the work after the patents and IP. We are only entitled to stuff we can defend! somehow we believe ideas are worth something.... ideas SOLD TO PEOPLE AND PEOPLE BUYING THEM ARE WORTH SOMETHING. How many times have you heard the statement "He/She stole my idea?"... the guy who had their idea stolen has not even bent his back to do Sh*t and he accuses someone else who did something with it? Have you noticed people are selling sandwiches and making money.... mbona tuna over reason? We also want someone else to do everything.... (back to talk)... we want someone else (not us) to make us the best in sports... Why don't we have a noble price winner? Why are not the best in X.... we can contribute ideas.... We always think the people who do these things the whole day and have done them for the last X years are clueless... We the people who watch them from i distance know everything (We must have seen it on some episode of some TV series or read it on the internet something those guys who are supposed to do those things didn't read or watch). Why do hospitals have 250 beds? What happens if a plane crashes and more than 250 people are injured? Why are the police not using [INSERT SOME GADGET YOU READ ABOUT] to prevent crime? Sabuni and Sanitary towels ni za nini kwa El Nino? lol... tunaMaswali tunajua kuuliza sana and yet kazi yetu yenyewe hatufanyi the best we can.... By the way if you think this is just a criticism to others and I am somehow immune to this 'talking talking' - you are wrong... This is also a "note to self!"

we confuse 'slums' and 'townships'.... SA has huge townships that have some slum looking houses huko ndani but they are not exactly 'large slums'