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Cash crunch situation facing the GOK
harrydre
#21 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 11:19:30 AM
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washiku wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
harrydre wrote:
kimiri wrote:
Democracy like many other things has a price. It is now official that the GOK is facing a cash crunch and one of the chief reasons is the huge size of government brought about by the new constitution.
http://www.nation.co.ke/...8/-/r8f0h7/-/index.html
What should be the way forward? Do we eat the humble pie and amend the constitution to whittle down the high number of government institutions by amending the constitution? As it is, things are only going to get worse.


Tinga, nusu mkeka.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


that's when all these machida's started. remember the ministries growing by double? to massage some ego? equal partner b/s?


@Harry, there was a day Uhuru was campaigning and he said that we should stop looking at the rear mirror all the time otherwise we might cause an accident. This was in reply to people who kept saying we should vote RAO because he had done a lot in the past. He insisted the best thing we need to talk about is progress. And Ruto used to punctuate his every sentence with 'taking this country forward' Forward is not in the past, Nope.

Now using their analogy, we wont solve this country's problems by always looking back at who caused the problems we are going through.

Every time a Jubilee politician defends a current problem with 'It was caused by RAO' or 'even RAO/Kalonzo/Weta or whoever did not fix it when he was in govt' I feel mad. Why? The reason that they did fix it is the whole point that they were not voted. The whole point was they get in and fix the issues.

Its almost three years now. Looking behind the rear mirror every time a problem is pointed out will cause a serious and/fatal accident to the country.

I am more interested in listening and interrogating how the govt is doing to solve the issues than who caused the problems. I always pay attention and highlight those that makes sense to me.

I cant remember who said that "You haven't failed until you find someone to blame" That is my point. The duo need to highlight more on what is being done and cut us the slack on what RAO did not do. That's why we did not vote him in the first place; because he did not do, or we thought he cant do, what we expect them to do.


I agree with you but remember you must always look back on what went wrong in order to fix the present and the future.
i.am.back!!!!
Wamunyota
#22 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 11:22:16 AM
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The govt aint and cant be broke.Worse case scenario they can always print some more money.They just want to intimidate the teachers.
Hutia Mundu!!
Taurrus
#23 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 5:23:33 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
I think we are judging jubilee unfairly. They never said they would fight corruption. Actually, corruption is not even mentioned in their manifesto.

I guess they looked at themselves when drafting the manifesto and went like, "who are we kidding?".

Jubilee are in power because of ICC and on handling Bensouda, they have scored an A+.

Kali sana, a lot of effort towards ICC, some aspiring politician should take advantage of Ababus motion and collect 1 million signatures for a referendum to cut the so called state officers heavy pays and allowances but not to pay the teachers but to increase money towards the counties. With the current situation in the country this can just take one day for the 1m signatures.
AlphDoti
#24 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 5:32:44 PM
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Taurrus wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
I think we are judging jubilee unfairly. They never said they would fight corruption. Actually, corruption is not even mentioned in their manifesto.

I guess they looked at themselves when drafting the manifesto and went like, "who are we kidding?".

Jubilee are in power because of ICC and on handling Bensouda, they have scored an A+.

Kali sana, a lot of effort towards ICC, some aspiring politician should take advantage of Ababus motion and collect 1 million signatures for a referendum to cut the so called state officers heavy pays and allowances but not to pay the teachers but to increase money towards the counties. With the current situation in the country this can just take one day for the 1m signatures.

Watch this please.

Quote:
The people with brains are putting their brains in their pockets because of sycophancy of party affiliation...


sitaki.kujulikana
#25 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:09:55 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Bila doa lolote, wachana na spichi za Obama. Huyu jamaa ako on pointi.

Ni nani huyo.
sitaki.kujulikana
#26 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:24:03 PM
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Bila doa lolote, wachana na spichi za Obama. Huyu jamaa ako on pointi.

Ni nani huyo.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly - dead
Quote:


"sioni hata theory ya uchumi inayo sema kwamba, kama unataka kutatua matatizo ya uchumi eti ufanye maombi sinashanga huyu mchumi amepata wapi...

hata paul anasema asiye fanya kazi asile, sio aombewe, unamnyima chakula yeye anasema watu waombewe. Mimi kama mchungaji tunaombea wazinzi, wanaofumania wanawake za watu"



Quote:

"Hii ni principle tuna apply, kuna consumer wengi producers ni wachache, maana yake you have to produce more, tafuta njia za ku produce zaidi, you don't have to pray for this ..."
sitaki.kujulikana
#27 Posted : Friday, October 09, 2015 10:45:40 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:




Laughing out loudly can't get enough of this guy.
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Kama tunendela na ngojela za aina hii, na kuruhusu akili ndogo kutawala akili kubwa, watu wenye akili kubwa wameweka akili zao mfukoni kwa sababu ya ushabiki wa kivyama ...

sasa kama wanao consumu ni wengi, na wanao produsi ni wachache, maana yake nini, tutaendelea kuomba hela nje na kukopa hela nje ili tuwalishe ...


Quote:

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Why can't we strechi our brain a little bit more ...

watoto wanaozaliwa wana dua, they can not thinki properly, they can not question, they can not ask. Ubongo aliotupa mungu ni lazima uwe stretched uweze kuchambua, tumeumbwa ili tutatue matatizo hapa duniani sio tu create matatizo
Swenani
#28 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:15:35 AM
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I think Kenya's role model is Greece
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
nakujua
#29 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:36:36 PM
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Sad its a gluttony race,
Now CIC wants its term to be extended

Quote:

There is also the publication of the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill, which reduces the period of entitlement to pensions by MPs from two terms to one term.

It also reduces the age entitled to pension by MPs from 45 years to 40 years, 10 years below the entitlement age for the rest of the public service, and also proposes to raise the minimum monthly pension of Sh100,000.


what was our debt levels during the moi years. especially the 90's.

Whats the point of a thriving economy that benefits only the 10% with the 90% expected to foot the bill
Taurrus
#30 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2015 5:09:55 PM
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nakujua wrote:

Sad its a gluttony race,
Now CIC wants its term to be extended

Quote:

There is also the publication of the Parliamentary Pensions (Amendment) Bill, which reduces the period of entitlement to pensions by MPs from two terms to one term.

It also reduces the age entitled to pension by MPs from 45 years to 40 years, 10 years below the entitlement age for the rest of the public service, and also proposes to raise the minimum monthly pension of Sh100,000.


what was our debt levels during the moi years. especially the 90's.

Whats the point of a thriving economy that benefits only the 10% with the 90% expected to foot the bill


It seems we have accepted and moved on.
Hey guys and NGOs take advantage of this situ and lets have a referendum to cut the paybill!
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