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Githurai protest Chaos: In support for arrested Cop!!??
jaggernaut
#31 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:09:37 PM
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One day you could be carjacked and the thugs sandwich you on the back seat, then the trigger happy cops open fire on the "most wanted criminals" and then it would be too late to tell your story.
AlphDoti
#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:17:20 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
One day you could be carjacked and the thugs sandwich you on the back seat, then the trigger happy cops open fire on the "most wanted criminals" and then it would be too late to tell your story.

I agree with you @jagger Sad
tycho
#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:26:16 PM
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There's no safety in numbers.
Buster
#34 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:33:47 PM
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Very complicated story. My suspicions arise where the brother who was a witness is killed immediately after the DPP orders the cops arrest...
callaspade
#35 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:34:29 PM
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Ngong wrote:
The matter before court is that of murder and in particular of a witness,that is the second brother,there is no doubt he killed,why he killed is what will fry him,criminals according to law are not supposed to be killed but arrested to face the same law,just as he had done to arrest the second victim before killing him later.
Trying a robert shaw with the new constitution you are fried!




...is there another witness to testify?

...this cop should be released pronto and promoted.

...when residents come live on tv claiming you are a thief,there is no doubt you are one ,the dpp cant see this,just reacting to "pressure".

...as it stands now, the law to be followed is the thugs shoot/or own guns,they should be shot dead,simple......call it what you want but thats the only language the thugs understand
Muriel
#36 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:45:02 PM
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tycho wrote:
There's no safety in numbers.


Where is it then?
mkenyan
#37 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:45:15 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
This is an easy case. The public is usually anti -police so I think the liquidated suspects must have been criminals.
The solution lies in tying the loose ends. Some volunteers should fix that.

the script is almost identical all over nairobi. thugs rob, rape and kill. at times in partnership with the police. at times because the police are under-equipped or too afraid to do anything about it. the residents make noise but are on their own. each person handling their damage with acceptance and an occasional word on how the government is failing them. the thugs are however mostly known. but there is never enough evidence to have been convicted. then a cop comes around who just pick up the thugs one by one and murders them. some real thugs are killed. some innocent ones are also killed. but the people are happy as there is at last some semblance of security. this cop, to be honest, shall be the hero to the residents. to those who would have lost their loved ones it would be a different story. to those who would have lost their loved ones who were never guilty to begin with, that is another story.
madollar
#38 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:49:45 PM
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Buster wrote:
Very complicated story. My suspicions arise where the brother who was a witness is killed immediately after the DPP orders the cops arrest...

You are right but why would traders close their wiras for two days and this are businesses that have to make money daily demanding the release of the cop. Only residents of githurai can tell us what is going on
Rahatupu
#39 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:17:59 PM
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callaspade wrote:
Ngong wrote:
The matter before court is that of murder and in particular of a witness,that is the second brother,there is no doubt he killed,why he killed is what will fry him,criminals according to law are not supposed to be killed but arrested to face the same law,just as he had done to arrest the second victim before killing him later.
Trying a robert shaw with the new constitution you are fried!




...is there another witness to testify?

...this cop should be released pronto and promoted.

...when residents come live on tv claiming you are a thief,there is no doubt you are one ,the dpp cant see this,just reacting to "pressure".

...as it stands now, the law to be followed is the thugs shoot/or own guns,they should be shot dead,simple......call it what you want but thats the only language the thugs understand
.

@Callaspade, well said: We live in a country called Kusadikika, where the fight against crime is won the softest tactics - "rights of the criminals" and the "rule of law".

Watch out for increase in insecurity and crime orchestrated by the boys in your hood. Wait till they come for you or your own brother, sister, father, mother, child or even worse you.
Rahatupu
#40 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:23:30 PM
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jaggernaut wrote:
One day you could be carjacked and the thugs sandwich you on the back seat, then the trigger happy cops open fire on the "most wanted criminals" and then it would be too late to tell your story.


@jaggernut, so would you rather die in the hands of the carjackers and the police do nothing faced with the gun totting thugs? eh? Bundiki sio kijiko boss
simonkabz
#41 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:15:55 PM
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Like I said before, no one supports "trigger-happy" cops, they are a risk to everybody. But a well coordinated operation to weed out all ARMED THUGS without mercy using Intelligence and Surveillance is what I advocate for. Since we dont have a death sentence any more, and yet these boys are still killing, raping and maiming, they should be shot in the head once IDENTIFIED and caught RED-HANDED.

Kindly note, executing not SUSPECTS but confirmed criminals caught in the act-with guns of course.

In any case, the Police County Commander Nairobi said they are carefully going through (I guess the Kenyanlist summary) so as not to make any mistakes. I can bet that those boys are under the radar, and cops are waiting for them to make a move, and Boom!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
alma
#42 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:32:22 PM
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Bravado doesn't security make. Otherwise by this time, counting the number of people who have died innocently or otherwise in the hands of rogue cops hasn't decreased the crime rate.

You can't support extra judicial killings and expect security. Either the cops are following the law in their duties or they are also criminals but with a uniform.

This alleged story of a witness being shot by this "wonderful" cop has no difference from the Tebes story where a witness was shot and killed by thugs. They are all thugs.

We allowed them to kill "thugs", now we want to allow them to kill witnesses. What's next, kill your mom for not raising a good law abiding son?
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
masukuma
#43 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:55:30 PM
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just as I thought.... wazua is full of people with middle class problems. do you know who sorted out gachie? it would be best if we had cops who followed all these ideals we are jotting down here but the fact of the matter is... we don't...we really don't! and the sad truth is we won't have them for quite sometime. that is the truth...

this is the wild east... everyone has a gun except the civilian who is to be protected and everyone with a gun wants to 'eat' from the guy without the gun. the people of gachie and ruaka and other places that had the opportunity to be visited by this 'rogue' cop will disagree with you. how many times do you see people protesting FOR A COP... mtu afunge biashara yake aende kwa street for 2 days zushaing about the arrest of a COP.. that in itself should tell you something. Man was not created for the law but the law for man.
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jaggernaut
#44 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 6:57:25 PM
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Rahatupu wrote:
jaggernaut wrote:
One day you could be carjacked and the thugs sandwich you on the back seat, then the trigger happy cops open fire on the "most wanted criminals" and then it would be too late to tell your story.


@jaggernut, so would you rather die in the hands of the carjackers and the police do nothing faced with the gun totting thugs? eh? Bundiki sio kijiko boss


At least the thugs would dump you somewhere at 4am after using your car to rob other motorists. But what if, God forbid, the cops opened fire while you are sandwiched hapo nyuma or umewekwa kwa boot?

What am saying is that the cops should fire at the vehicle tires to deflate them and ground the car, and then arrest and charge the thugs in a court of law with robbery with violence, and sentence them to hang.
alma
#45 Posted : Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:02:37 PM
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masukuma if a policeman cannot follow the law that you created, then he should not be a policeman. Atafute kazi ingine. You are arguing as if there are no honest and law abiding cops who actually arrest people who they know will walk tommorow. But they still follow the law.

Your argument is very strange indeed. You are saying in one paragraph that Kenyan policemen don't follow the law. and they are all possible killers because they are frustrated. Very strange argument indeed.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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