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Complete and consistent Juche
Impunity
#21 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:16:00 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
So juche is English Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall


Me too thought it was some slang, like Duty=Jiute=Juche!

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#22 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:37:31 PM
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simonkabz wrote:
tycho wrote:
simonkabz wrote:


Is this an African @Simon?


Im sorry sir, please don't bombard me with those things! Sitarudia haki.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly umefanya ni cheke yangu yote!
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tycho
#23 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:48:02 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So juche is English Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall


Me too thought it was some slang, like Duty=Jiute=Juche!

Sad Sad Sad


Juche, is a philosophy used by the people of the Democratic republic of Korea. Or North Korea.

It is based on a human centered dialectic where the human is the principle actor and decider of his fate. It is a philosophy of 'self reliance'. Ultimate human responsibility in historical and cultural context.

By offering a complete and consistent Juche, then am offering a critique and an illumination of the Korean philosophy, and extending it to all the people of the world.

That is, we are discussing a philosophical and political system that is complete and consistent at 'all times'.



tycho
#24 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 7:19:21 AM
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To what extent have 'foreign' religions like Christianity, and Islam, or Buddhism, or any other non indegnous philosophical and spiritual system promoted the African and his identity?

Early conversion to Christianity of Ethiopians hasn't spared the country from operating below its nobility. Sudan and southern Sudan are still facing pangs whose end can't be foreseen. The great Songhai empire's decline was vastly a result of tension between a new culture contending with an African culture that seems to have prevented Askia the great from modernizing his army.

The Christianity that was brought by the Colonialists was not the same Christianity of old Ethiopia or Makuria. It's a kind of Christianity that ensured the African would stay as an inferior species.

Why then should such thinking be supported now?

Again, what does history show about the religions of Man, even across continents? Religious growth must come from within. Spirituality can't be exported or imported and retain its power. In America and Europe ancient religions like 'Celtism' and Wicca are rising why?

We must not take these things for granted.
Muriel
#25 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 9:27:15 AM
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Hinduism in India has not brought about nirvana or more slum dog millionaires. It's not foreign. The concept of foreign is irrelevant.
tycho
#26 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 9:44:48 AM
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Muriel wrote:

Hinduism in India has not brought about nirvana or more slum dog millionaires. It's not foreign. The concept of foreign is irrelevant.


Your assertion is not only false, but it also includes a concept that's 'irrelevant'.

Hinduism, and its various schools of thought, have allowed the people of India to develop their own ideas even now. Take the recent elections as an example. The BJP manifesto included the use of Vedic medicine, and yoga in their health care system. Isn't this a positive contribution of their indegnous thought?

While Christianity may not have taken anyone to heaven, the African can't seem to find a way to keep himself healthy in a way he understands, can control and develop without being fettered, or without losing his identity.

Kenyan patients, and even students will flock to India, because their doctors have fled courtesy of brain drain.
Pedes
#27 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 12:10:26 PM
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tycho wrote:
To what extent have 'foreign' religions like Christianity, and Islam, or Buddhism, or any other non indegnous philosophical and spiritual system promoted the African and his identity?

Early conversion to Christianity of Ethiopians hasn't spared the country from operating below its nobility. Sudan and southern Sudan are still facing pangs whose end can't be foreseen. The great Songhai empire's decline was vastly a result of tension between a new culture contending with an African culture that seems to have prevented Askia the great from modernizing his army.

The Christianity that was brought by the Colonialists was not the same Christianity of old Ethiopia or Makuria. It's a kind of Christianity that ensured the African would stay as an inferior species.

Why then should such thinking be supported now?

Again, what does history show about the religions of Man, even across continents? Religious growth must come from within. Spirituality can't be exported or imported and retain its power. In America and Europe ancient religions like 'Celtism' and Wicca are rising why?

We must not take these things for granted.


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#28 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 12:48:06 PM
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tycho wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
So juche is English Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall


Me too thought it was some slang, like Duty=Jiute=Juche!

Sad Sad Sad


Juche, is a philosophy used by the people of the Democratic republic of Korea. Or North Korea.

It is based on a human centered dialectic where the human is the principle actor and decider of his fate. It is a philosophy of 'self reliance'. Ultimate human responsibility in historical and cultural context.

By offering a complete and consistent Juche, then am offering a critique and an illumination of the Korean philosophy, and extending it to all the people of the world.

That is, we are discussing a philosophical and political system that is complete and consistent at 'all times'.






The explanation is even worse Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Wacha tu ibaki juche
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Muriel
#29 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 1:03:14 PM
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One, of some, things I know is the 'untouchables'. Caste. This is a negative contribution to and of the indegenous thought. Worse than Africans.
tycho
#30 Posted : Friday, June 06, 2014 2:15:07 PM
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Muriel wrote:
One, of some, things I know is the 'untouchables'. Caste. This is a negative contribution to and of the indegenous thought. Worse than Africans.


Show me how. Hahaha! And even show me if that caste system doesn't apply to the current pseudo-progressive thinking in the African mind.

Again, let me remind you that we are talking about indegnous cultivation and use of knowledge to resolve 'problems' and ensure the people involved have an opportunity to flourish, experience justice, exert responsibilities, and enjoy meaningful lives. By this, the caste system still qualifies.

What doesn't qualify is the African trying her best not to be African in dressing, in knowledge, manners, and tastes. That's one preposterous contradiction. It's condemning yourself to death. In the caste system, the untouchable can hope to be a Brahmin through reincarnation.

But poor African. What can he hope to be in the next life. Some say that in heaven 'we' shall be crowned differently. For some there will be golden crowns, others paper crowns, each according to merit. Now pause and ask, what crown can the African hope to wear? If his/her essence is so repugnant?

Some kinds of thinking offer the African no hope.

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