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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#21 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:18:07 PM
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@guru, i speak as both an account holder(4 Accounts) and shareholder since September 2007.
While i agree with you on the capital outlay part, i strongly disagree with you that it will be Equity's downfall for the simple reason that just as safaricom is a brand and has loyal customers, trust me Equity is even more to us. I cant wait for the roll out to get me an Equity numbersmile And i'd love it more than my 0722 Safaricom linesmile
Lets talk a bit of numbers. As per the Economic Survey 2014 release, KES.914B was moved through mobile money last year, a 36% increase over 2012.Every shilling here attracts some transaction fee. Contrast this with their traditional source of revenue -Loans. In the same release, only KES.20.2B was borrowed from banks by KenyansSad(AS in all the banks had to share out this) Looks like a typosmile
As a DFI student,you can see where the money is.That is what Dr.JM has seen.
#Numbers don't lie!
@SufficientlyP
guru267
#22 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 12:42:00 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
As per the Economic Survey 2014 release, KES.914B was moved through mobile money last year, a 36% increase over 2012.Every shilling here attracts some transaction fee. Contrast this with their traditional source of revenue -Loans. In the same release, only KES.20.2B was borrowed from banks by KenyansSad(AS in all the banks had to share out this) Looks like a typosmile


So what does Dr. JM know that Airtel, Yu and Orange don't??

The kind of losses those guys make is not for the faint of heart...

There is nothing new JM can offer to remove guys from safcom! Safcom is way more in the hearts of Kenyans than equity will ever hope to be!

This is another Mkesho waiting to happen with consequences unimaginable!

I think JM will be taught a serious lesson here if he pushes with this! Sad
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
whiteowl
#23 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 2:01:40 PM
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guru267 wrote:
With KCBs cost to income ratio falling Equity will not be catching up any time soon!

Equity's adventure into the telco space will be their downfall! Whats all the positivity about??

The level of capital outlay needed will dent earnings for years to come..

Why invest in a sector where for the last 5 years only 1 player is profitable??

Just because telcos are making money in the finance space doesnt mean vice versa will work...

What happened to core business focus??

The Kenyan telco market is a company graveyard! Sad


A graveyard that transacts over $19bn/year?? JM wouldn't mind being buried there any day.
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#24 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 2:50:35 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
guru267 wrote:
With KCBs cost to income ratio falling Equity will not be catching up any time soon!

Equity's adventure into the telco space will be their downfall! Whats all the positivity about??

The level of capital outlay needed will dent earnings for years to come..

Why invest in a sector where for the last 5 years only 1 player is profitable??

Just because telcos are making money in the finance space doesnt mean vice versa will work...

What happened to core business focus??

The Kenyan telco market is a company graveyard! Sad


A graveyard that transacts over $19bn/year?? JM wouldn't mind being buried there any day.

Amen @whiteowl
@SufficientlyP
holycow
#25 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 2:52:14 PM
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1. Onto KCB, the 30% is more than i expected considering Southern Sudan and the going ons.
2. On Equity and the Telco business. It won't be easy. Having an MNVO licence means they'll be piggy backing on an existing network hence wiping margins and increasing overheads. YU tried to ride on Airtels network and look at where they ended.
My 2 cents.
Kalameni
#26 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:18:19 PM
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a tight race of focus on core business growth against innovatiness nd risk taking.
guru267
#27 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:45:35 PM
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whiteowl wrote:
guru267 wrote:
With KCBs cost to income ratio falling Equity will not be catching up any time soon!

Equity's adventure into the telco space will be their downfall! Whats all the positivity about??

The level of capital outlay needed will dent earnings for years to come..

Why invest in a sector where for the last 5 years only 1 player is profitable??

Just because telcos are making money in the finance space doesnt mean vice versa will work...

What happened to core business focus??

The Kenyan telco market is a company graveyard! Sad


A graveyard that transacts over $19bn/year?? JM wouldn't mind being buried there any day.


He will be buried next to kencell, celtel, zain, Orange, Yu and Airtel!

The undertaker (safaricom) will be happy to receive him! smile
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Kalameni
#28 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 3:58:13 PM
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@guru where nd when will the undertaker hold this big burial.
Boris Boyka
#29 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:03:03 PM
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guru267 wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
guru267 wrote:
With KCBs cost to income ratio falling Equity will not be catching up any time soon!

Equity's adventure into the telco space will be their downfall! Whats all the positivity about??

The level of capital outlay needed will dent earnings for years to come..

Why invest in a sector where for the last 5 years only 1 player is profitable??

Just because telcos are making money in the finance space doesnt mean vice versa will work...

What happened to core business focus??

The Kenyan telco market is a company graveyard! Sad


A graveyard that transacts over $19bn/year?? JM wouldn't mind being buried there any day.


He will be buried next to kencell, celtel, zain, Orange, Yu and Airtel!

The undertaker (safaricom) will be happy to receive him! smile

When EQT went to mama mbogas and wanjikus for accounts holding this was said,when it started giving loans at low interests to all classes with few procedures even off pay slip ones You said it will collapse,when it started operating agents you said it will collapse(other banks followed including KCB). EQT is not fighting to beat safaricom but to have a share of that sector (leyman) with much respect @guru247 of late you're misleading us financially
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
whiteowl
#30 Posted : Thursday, May 01, 2014 4:25:23 PM
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guru267 wrote:
whiteowl wrote:
guru267 wrote:
With KCBs cost to income ratio falling Equity will not be catching up any time soon!

Equity's adventure into the telco space will be their downfall! Whats all the positivity about??

The level of capital outlay needed will dent earnings for years to come..

Why invest in a sector where for the last 5 years only 1 player is profitable??

Just because telcos are making money in the finance space doesnt mean vice versa will work...

What happened to core business focus??

The Kenyan telco market is a company graveyard! Sad


A graveyard that transacts over $19bn/year?? JM wouldn't mind being buried there any day.


He will be buried next to kencell, celtel, zain, Orange, Yu and Airtel!

The undertaker (safaricom) will be happy to receive him! smile


Equity has a customer base of 8M+ and an agency network of 11k+ both of which the companies you've listed above never had when they were taking on safcom.I don't see the reason you're so sure of Equity's burial before the fight has even began. I'm not saying Equity will win outright but it has enough muscle to take on Safcom and stay in the fight for quite a long time.
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