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Tragedy of Kenyan stars: Henry Motego
Tokyo
#41 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 2:41:46 AM
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masukuma wrote:
wacha nifunulie watu siri! if what you are doing doesn't pay your bills now - its unlikely to pay your bills tomorrow when you retire so... CHANGE THE JOB!! NO ONE IS HARD WIRED TO DO JUST ONE THING!


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Tokyo
#42 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 2:44:10 AM
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Peter Dawo can be a brand name. If he decide to use in Koroga as a professional sawa.
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Alba
#43 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 4:38:52 PM
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Players like Motego were lured by Kenya Breweries as soon as he finished form 4 by offering him plum jobs where they literally did nothing and earned good money. Because it was a nothing job, they earned very few transferable skills.

Players need to be advised on how to plan for the future. Most of them are too young and inexperienced in the ways of the world when they start their football careers. And football careers can be very demanding in terms of travel, training and other issues.

This situation is not unique to Kenya. However, even in Kenya there are plenty for former players who are doing very well. Tobias Ocholla is head of technical and fitness instructions at the Kenyatta University.
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#44 Posted : Thursday, January 02, 2014 5:30:31 PM
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masukuma wrote:
wacha nifunulie watu siri! if what you are doing doesn't pay your bills now - its unlikely to pay your bills tomorrow when you retire so... CHANGE THE JOB!! NO ONE IS HARD WIRED TO DO JUST ONE THING!


What great advice.

Nobody owes these guys anything. People should take responsibilty of their lives. If something does not pay the bills now, find something else that will pay the bills. It's really simple logic. No rocket science there. It might be a little harsh but it's reality. These guys should not expect handouts just because they were some sports heroes, they need to strive for a better life just like everybody else. Watu wajipange.
Alba
#45 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 4:20:11 AM
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Tobias Ocholla is doing quite well. I have to admit that he never struck me as an academic.
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http://sporton.nation.co...e-recalls-good-old-days/
tycho
#46 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 7:05:18 AM
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I'd say the problem is that few Kenyans know how to read and write even despite spending years in school, and socialization rarely equips the individual to be a free and responsible citizen.

Even worse are those citizens who show some aptitude in sport, or who tend to grow faster physically than their peers.

For example, I have this young friend who is supposed to do his K.C.P.E next year. He is a talented player when compared to his peers. When I asked him what he thinks when playing soccer, he told me, 'scoring'. But when I asked him what he thinks about exams, he told me that he only wanted to get 300 marks out of 500. On further investigation by way of looking at his composition and Insha, it became apparent that it would be difficult for him to get the desired marks. He accepted that he had deliberately denied himself the chance to go to a good school for his secondary education and had no intention for going to university because not all intelligent people go to university.

And indeed, most of the talented friends I grew up with had this rationality, and I doubt whether the stars we are discussing about here thought any differently.

And all this is because people are taught reading and writing without being taught how to reason. In the end one lives in a fantasy world that's often distorted by the sweetness of youth. But when age catches up, everything falls out of place.

This matter about reading, writing and reasoning is what even accounts for the failure of African teams in tournaments like the world cup. Like in the last world cup, I saw an African team lose to some mzungu team simply because they couldn't read the game and write their own play. After almost 70 minutes of holding the 'Wazungus', I watched as the wazungus changed tact and within few minutes 'Africana' were two goals down. Game lost.
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#47 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 7:27:31 AM
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I watched a documentary some time back on BBC about some 'rags to riches and back to rags again' stories of African Footballers, and boy, wasn't the Elijah Litana story Sad!!!!!!!!!
ELIJAH LITANA EXTREME POVERTY
Elijah used to be flown on private jets by his club, All Hilal of Saudi Arabia, but is currently working as a welder in his village in Zambia, all this because of his EVER BEGGING EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS.

The foolhardy, the naive and their money…

http://footballisafrica....e-naive-and-their-money…/

The Documentary: Pity the Poor Soccer Stars

http://www.bbc.co.uk/med...itypoorsoccerstars1.html
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Am
#48 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 8:06:37 AM
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tycho wrote:
I'd say the problem is that few Kenyans know how to read and write even despite spending years in school, and socialization rarely equips the individual to be a free and responsible citizen.

Even worse are those citizens who show some aptitude in sport, or who tend to grow faster physically than their peers.

For example, I have this young friend who is supposed to do his K.C.P.E next year. He is a talented player when compared to his peers. When I asked him what he thinks when playing soccer, he told me, 'scoring'. But when I asked him what he thinks about exams, he told me that he only wanted to get 300 marks out of 500. On further investigation by way of looking at his composition and Insha, it became apparent that it would be difficult for him to get the desired marks. He accepted that he had deliberately denied himself the chance to go to a good school for his secondary education and had no intention for going to university because not all intelligent people go to university.

And indeed, most of the talented friends I grew up with had this rationality, and I doubt whether the stars we are discussing about here thought any differently.

And all this is because people are taught reading and writing without being taught how to reason. In the end one lives in a fantasy world that's often distorted by the sweetness of youth. But when age catches up, everything falls out of place.

This matter about reading, writing and reasoning is what even accounts for the failure of African teams in tournaments like the world cup. Like in the last world cup, I saw an African team lose to some mzungu team simply because they couldn't read the game and write their own play. After almost 70 minutes of holding the 'Wazungus', I watched as the wazungus changed tact and within few minutes 'Africana' were two goals down. Game lost.

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@tycho.You mean you can write something that people understand?
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#49 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 8:22:48 AM
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Am wrote:
tycho wrote:
I'd say the problem is that few Kenyans know how to read and write even despite spending years in school, and socialization rarely equips the individual to be a free and responsible citizen.

Even worse are those citizens who show some aptitude in sport, or who tend to grow faster physically than their peers.

For example, I have this young friend who is supposed to do his K.C.P.E next year. He is a talented player when compared to his peers. When I asked him what he thinks when playing soccer, he told me, 'scoring'. But when I asked him what he thinks about exams, he told me that he only wanted to get 300 marks out of 500. On further investigation by way of looking at his composition and Insha, it became apparent that it would be difficult for him to get the desired marks. He accepted that he had deliberately denied himself the chance to go to a good school for his secondary education and had no intention for going to university because not all intelligent people go to university.

And indeed, most of the talented friends I grew up with had this rationality, and I doubt whether the stars we are discussing about here thought any differently.

And all this is because people are taught reading and writing without being taught how to reason. In the end one lives in a fantasy world that's often distorted by the sweetness of youth. But when age catches up, everything falls out of place.

This matter about reading, writing and reasoning is what even accounts for the failure of African teams in tournaments like the world cup. Like in the last world cup, I saw an African team lose to some mzungu team simply because they couldn't read the game and write their own play. After almost 70 minutes of holding the 'Wazungus', I watched as the wazungus changed tact and within few minutes 'Africana' were two goals down. Game lost.

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@tycho.You mean you can write something that people understand?


Of course I know how to read and write!
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#50 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2014 12:28:52 PM
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[quote=dunkang]I watched a documentary some time back on BBC about some 'rags to riches and back to rags again' stories of African Footballers, and boy, wasn't the Elijah Litana story Sad!!!!!!!!!
ELIJAH LITANA EXTREME POVERTY
Elijah used to be flown on private jets by his club, All Hilal of Saudi Arabia, but is currently working as a welder in his village in Zambia, all this because of his EVER BEGGING EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS.

The foolhardy, the naive and their money…

http://footballisafrica....e-naive-and-their-money…/

The Documentary: Pity the Poor Soccer Stars

http://www.bbc.co.uk/med...typoorsoccerstars1.html[/quote]
fOR a guy who was given $250,000 on retirement?Sad
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#51 Posted : Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:22:44 PM
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#52 Posted : Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:31:35 PM
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people need to understand 1 thing and 1 thing only! education will never disappoint! the road to stardom via music, sports, quitting school for entrepreneurship may look glamorous but for each one that succeeds millions lie wasted it is worth noting that the people that build an economy are workers. give yourself some skills that will be useful in building a product or a service and not entertainment. No economy has been built by footballers or ever musicians (sijui wanajiita artists). adebayor may have nice houses , cars and a jet but how many other Togolese people succeeded that way? Stay in school, if they made penicillin from moldy bread - they will make something out of you.
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#53 Posted : Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:57:19 PM
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masukuma wrote:
people need to understand 1 thing and 1 thing only! education will never disappoint! the road to stardom via music, sports, quitting school for entrepreneurship may look glamorous but for each one that succeeds millions lie wasted it is worth noting that the people that build an economy are workers. give yourself some skills that will be useful in building a product or a service and not entertainment. No economy has been built by footballers or ever musicians (sijui wanajiita artists). adebayor may have nice houses , cars and a jet but how many other Togolese people succeeded that way? Stay in school, if they made penicillin from moldy bread - they will make something out of you.

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Simple but extremely valuable advice.

Education is very important and cannot be substituted with anything else. Combine education with whatever else you are doing!!!
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#54 Posted : Friday, January 16, 2015 8:51:43 AM
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The discussion goes on and on and on . . .
Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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#55 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:37:27 AM
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Seems fate won't even wait till they retire.

Sad state of affairs.

Imbalambala locked out of house over rent





DN wrote:
In Summary

After two months without pay, players are - literally - begging for survival. On Monday evening, club (AFC) captain Martin Imbalambala was locked out of his Thika flat due to two months’ rent arrears.

“On Monday, I returned from Kitui where I had gone to visit my ailing maternal grandfather with my family only to find my door locked due to rent arrears. I had no way out,” a hurting Imbalambala said.

Opwora sent an additional Sh10,000 Tuesday to ease the pressure from an unforgiving landlord. Still, he has a pending Sh10,000 to clear. “I’m in a fix because I have not been paid for three months.
Live and learn; and don’t forget, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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#56 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:51:32 AM
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masukuma wrote:
people need to understand 1 thing and 1 thing only! education will never disappoint! the road to stardom via music, sports, quitting school for entrepreneurship may look glamorous but for each one that succeeds millions lie wasted it is worth noting that the people that build an economy are workers. give yourself some skills that will be useful in building a product or a service and not entertainment. No economy has been built by footballers or ever musicians (sijui wanajiita artists). adebayor may have nice houses , cars and a jet but how many other Togolese people succeeded that way? Stay in school, if they made penicillin from moldy bread - they will make something out of you.


...and you ended by quoting the all time greatest boxer of our timesmile
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masukuma
#57 Posted : Wednesday, May 27, 2015 12:10:18 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
masukuma wrote:
people need to understand 1 thing and 1 thing only! education will never disappoint! the road to stardom via music, sports, quitting school for entrepreneurship may look glamorous but for each one that succeeds millions lie wasted it is worth noting that the people that build an economy are workers. give yourself some skills that will be useful in building a product or a service and not entertainment. No economy has been built by footballers or ever musicians (sijui wanajiita artists). adebayor may have nice houses , cars and a jet but how many other Togolese people succeeded that way? Stay in school, if they made penicillin from moldy bread - they will make something out of you.


...and you ended by quoting the all time greatest boxer of our timesmile

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#58 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2016 5:31:30 AM
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I came across a report about Jojo Waweru who at one point was playing professional football in Europe and then hit the proverbial rock bottom



maka
#59 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2016 10:53:04 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
masukuma wrote:
people need to understand 1 thing and 1 thing only! education will never disappoint! the road to stardom via music, sports, quitting school for entrepreneurship may look glamorous but for each one that succeeds millions lie wasted it is worth noting that the people that build an economy are workers. give yourself some skills that will be useful in building a product or a service and not entertainment. No economy has been built by footballers or ever musicians (sijui wanajiita artists). adebayor may have nice houses , cars and a jet but how many other Togolese people succeeded that way? Stay in school, if they made penicillin from moldy bread - they will make something out of you.

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Simple but extremely valuable advice.

Education is very important and cannot be substituted with anything else. Combine education with whatever else you are doing!!!


The training facilities of Sunderland Football Club are an expansive 800 kilometres from KU Leuven's Faculty of Social Sciences. Yet Simon Mignolet, goalkeeper for the English Premier League club as well as for the Belgian national team, is two exams and a paper away from completing his Bachelor's degree in political science. "I realised all too well that a serious injury could put a quick end to a sports career. I wanted to have something up my sleeve," says Mignolet.

That was the 2012....He got his degree.
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Alba
#60 Posted : Sunday, September 18, 2016 7:20:17 PM
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maka wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
masukuma wrote:
people need to understand 1 thing and 1 thing only! education will never disappoint! the road to stardom via music, sports, quitting school for entrepreneurship may look glamorous but for each one that succeeds millions lie wasted it is worth noting that the people that build an economy are workers. give yourself some skills that will be useful in building a product or a service and not entertainment. No economy has been built by footballers or ever musicians (sijui wanajiita artists). adebayor may have nice houses , cars and a jet but how many other Togolese people succeeded that way? Stay in school, if they made penicillin from moldy bread - they will make something out of you.

Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

Simple but extremely valuable advice.

Education is very important and cannot be substituted with anything else. Combine education with whatever else you are doing!!!


The training facilities of Sunderland Football Club are an expansive 800 kilometres from KU Leuven's Faculty of Social Sciences. Yet Simon Mignolet, goalkeeper for the English Premier League club as well as for the Belgian national team, is two exams and a paper away from completing his Bachelor's degree in political science. "I realised all too well that a serious injury could put a quick end to a sports career. I wanted to have something up my sleeve," says Mignolet.

That was the 2012....He got his degree.


Kenyan sportsmen are just as educated as their European counterparts perhaps even more educated.

We have had footballers with advanced degrees like Masiga, Shikanda, Obwaka etc. Runners with PhDs like Boit and Ereng. Even today we have Olunga pursuing an engineering degree.
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