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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Lolest! wrote:I think a view of parliament as independent of population and the 1 man 1 vote rule stems from our understanding of an MP to mean an area Santa Claus. The guy is supposed to be giving you school fees, constructing schools, dispensaries, roads, giving you money for siku kuu etc And when you send him to Nairovi your understanding is that he has gone to get you more money for projects from the national govt and other donors.
Which is why we like queuing at their offices to beg...we think they should just be spending on us and yet hypocritically condemn them when they increase their perks. Hata hatuna aibu The reason legislatures exist whether senate, national assembly, knesset, congress, duma, county assembly is to REPRESENT us in decision making! See, all voters can't be voting on every small decision(bill, govt budget, Mututho law etc) and thus they send 'one of them' to represent them. Je tuko pamoja ama niandike kiPokomo? wacha ku generalize issues, The figures of the individuals who line up at their offices as a ratio of the individuals who voted for them is negligible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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nakujua wrote:Lolest! wrote:I think a view of parliament as independent of population and the 1 man 1 vote rule stems from our understanding of an MP to mean an area Santa Claus. The guy is supposed to be giving you school fees, constructing schools, dispensaries, roads, giving you money for siku kuu etc And when you send him to Nairovi your understanding is that he has gone to get you more money for projects from the national govt and other donors.
Which is why we like queuing at their offices to beg...we think they should just be spending on us and yet hypocritically condemn them when they increase their perks. Hata hatuna aibu The reason legislatures exist whether senate, national assembly, knesset, congress, duma, county assembly is to REPRESENT us in decision making! See, all voters can't be voting on every small decision(bill, govt budget, Mututho law etc) and thus they send 'one of them' to represent them. Je tuko pamoja ama niandike kiPokomo? wacha ku generalize issues, The figures of the individuals who line up at their offices as a ratio of the individuals who voted for them is negligible. try running for a seat without bribes and later handouts should you get elected.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Lolest! wrote:I think a view of parliament as independent of population and the 1 man 1 vote rule stems from our understanding of an MP to mean an area Santa Claus. The guy is supposed to be giving you school fees, constructing schools, dispensaries, roads, giving you money for siku kuu etc And when you send him to Nairovi your understanding is that he has gone to get you more money for projects from the national govt and other donors. Which is why we like queuing at their offices to beg...we think they should just be spending on us and yet hypocritically condemn them when they increase their perks. Hata hatuna aibu The reason legislatures exist whether senate, national assembly, knesset, congress, duma, county assembly is to REPRESENT us in decision making! See, all voters can't be voting on every small decision(bill, govt budget, Mututho law etc) and thus they send 'one of them' to represent them. Je tuko pamoja ama niandike kiPokomo? Uko peke yako. When was the last time - or the first time - your 'representer' sought your contribution as his constituent whom he REPRESENTS on an issue he later went to speak about? Can you stand up today and say that you 'own' your representative's contribution - because, well, he expressed and communicated what you were after? Your talk resonates well with the 'representatives' but hardly with the 'represented' and is political 'kisingizio.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Muriel wrote:
Uko peke yako.
When was the last time - or the first time - your 'representer' sought your contribution as his constituent whom he REPRESENTS on an issue he later went to speak about?
Can you stand up today and say that you 'own' your representative's contribution - because, well, he expressed and communicated what you were after?
Your talk resonates well with the 'representatives' but hardly with the 'represented' and is political 'kisingizio.
I like your thoughts...I find them logical. In fact, I expected someone to raise the point you're raising. Can I own my representative's choice? In most cases for voters, YES. You find for instance Jubilee MPs will vote with their people on matters that are of interest to them eg ICC while CORD will oppose govt as the voters in their strongholds do. I talk like the representatives? LOL! You reason like they want you to reason. They want you to think they're Santa Claus. To wait for handouts and projects. They're happy if you stay that way. Let us not forget that govt's law making organ is parliament. It is powerful and can even kick out the executive. You need to take your MP to task over performance in parliament.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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To believe that politics runs primarily in Parliament, is to be taken by the sweetest red herring around. It's a shackle on Wanjiku's hand and mind.
The market has a very strong position to play, but we are neglecting it. That's why we are crying about the wage bill.
Government and business; how to go about it? That's the political challenge we are facing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Lolest! wrote:I think a view of parliament as independent of population and the 1 man 1 vote rule stems from our understanding of an MP to mean an area Santa Claus. The guy is supposed to be giving you school fees, constructing schools, dispensaries, roads, giving you money for siku kuu etc And when you send him to Nairovi your understanding is that he has gone to get you more money for projects from the national govt and other donors. Which is why we like queuing at their offices to beg...we think they should just be spending on us and yet hypocritically condemn them when they increase their perks. Hata hatuna aibu The reason legislatures exist whether senate, national assembly, knesset, congress, duma, county assembly is to REPRESENT us in decision making! See, all voters can't be voting on every small decision(bill, govt budget, Mututho law etc) and thus they send 'one of them' to represent them. Je tuko pamoja ama niandike kiPokomo?  Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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@ this discussion is got to do with where our taxes are going a) Development b) peoples pockets and what percentages and imagine this was done before the MPigs got greedy proper I would really want to see current graphs eg  "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Siringi wrote:@ this discussion is got to do with where our taxes are going a) Development b) peoples pockets and what percentages and imagine this was done before the MPigs got greedy proper I would really want to see current graphs eg @Siringi, 'our taxes'? Only? What about incomes? Why is the question not how we increase our incomes by paying taxes? And electing people to office?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/8/2013 Posts: 2,517
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tycho wrote:Siringi wrote:@ this discussion is got to do with where our taxes are going a) Development b) peoples pockets and what percentages and imagine this was done before the MPigs got greedy proper I would really want to see current graphs eg @Siringi, 'our taxes'? Only? What about incomes? Why is the question not how we increase our incomes by paying taxes? And electing people to office? @tycho last time I checked GoK relies mainly on taxes to generate revenues What % of GoK revenue are from 'GoK Income' halafu borrowings which by the way are repaid through ... say it ===>more taxes "😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
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