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chepkel
#41 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2013 12:20:01 PM
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matata wrote:
I really want teachers to be paid. what I hate most is the way they demand with kidish threats. Wanatumia kifua instead of sitting with the gvt to negociate.


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#42 Posted : Tuesday, June 25, 2013 3:08:46 PM
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Garment disowns the 1997 teachers deal!!!!!
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#43 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 11:58:24 AM
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Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now?

I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo?
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#44 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:05:18 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now?

I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo?


Rongo!!!!
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#45 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:49:29 PM
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#46 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:09:25 PM
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The secretary for labour was very loud when he commented on the issue! the advantage of beingin politics before cz u can speak as loud as ur used to. I dout other cabinet secretaries can shout like he did!
Let them pay teachers in phases madeni iishe. But teachers should also avail themselves for dialogue. after all this is a 1997 deal!
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#47 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 2:12:32 PM
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#48 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:00:53 PM
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If I was the Jubilee govt, I would transfer the provision of basic education to the county gava and transfer the actual running of schools to parents. But clinging to power blindly is what drives down our country.

Private schools are doing very well with profit motive in mind, imagine what parents could do if allowed to run schools where their children learn.

Having said that, Teachers must get their due. The gava signed and they need to make good their end of the bargain.

The laptop program for hungry children must GO.
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#49 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:01:18 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
If I was the Jubilee govt, I would transfer the provision of basic education to the county gava and transfer the actual running of schools to parents. But clinging to power blindly is what drives down our country.

Private schools are doing very well with profit motive in mind, imagine what parents could do if allowed to run schools where their children learn.

Having said that, Teachers must get their due. The gava signed and they need to make good their end of the bargain.

The laptop program for hungry children must GO.


Doctors, nurses and clinical officers recently opposed a move by the Government to transfer their salaries and allowances to counties, i think teachers would react the same way. County governments are not yet ready for this kind of function.

"In 2003 the NARC govt disowned the 1997 agreement through Legal Notice No. 16 of 2003.....under the agreement teachers were supposed to earn half their basic pay as house allowance. They were also to pocket 20 per cent of their basic pay as medical allowance and another 10 per cent of their salary towards commuter allowance. The Government has always held that this particular notice overturned Legal Notice No.534 of 1997 under which all the allowances in question were negotiated and agreed upon."

This deal was supposed to be fully implemented by 2002 but it wasn't.....Moi just wanted to win an election in 97'. Teachers clearly deserve a better pay no doubt about that but should it be based on this deal. How many teachers have been employed since 1997, na kwanza naskia even the once who have retired want their share if the deal is implemented. Hii pesa ya laptop is not even enough to meet their demands so that really isn't the issue here. Perhaps Kambi is right this thing needs to be negotiated again and probably implemented immediately without phases....we now have county govts getting atleast 15% of the national revenue.


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#50 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:56:47 PM
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It's foolish for teachers to storm private schools demanding that their counterparts from the private sector join in the strike.
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#51 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:14:44 PM
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McReggae wrote:
It's foolish for teachers to storm private schools demanding that their counterparts from the private sector join in the strike.



Very very very foolish en stupid of them!!!!!!! They are not paid by the government so why should they strike?
Talk of displaying their level of ignorance!
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#52 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:18:45 PM
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McReggae wrote:
It's foolish for teachers to storm private schools demanding that their counterparts from the private sector join in the strike.

Quite sad it has come to this.Sad Sad But again students in private schools get an "unfair advantage"
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#53 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:22:15 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now?

I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo?


Rongo!!!!

how much for graduate teacher, principal, snr principal etc?
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#54 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:51:17 PM
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The short term solution is to enrol our kids in good private schools.
The long term solution is to pray for this bunch of unionists to stop blackmailing everybody.
If all civil servants take this route, the country kenya will go the Kenya airways route. Someone stop this unnecessary agitation. If i was their employer which i am not, i will not pay them for any day they are striking.
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#55 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:11:32 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
murchr wrote:
Arent teachers overpaid compared to other civil servants? Ho come no one is mentioning the desks now?

I have heard this too. I hear a graduate teacher is earning 50k and principals earning 250k. Kweli au rongo?



Rongo!!!!

how much for graduate teacher, principal, snr principal etc?


30 years in service you get a gross of 56000 bob..
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#56 Posted : Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:40:50 PM
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For the interested ones, this is the TSC Salary Scale from October 2012.

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Basic salary: P2 teacher ~ 14520 up to Chief principal ~ 109089

Add allowances (hardship, responsibility, special school, boarding school, streams etc) to that then less taxes.

And 3 months a year on leave.

Teachers are the best paid civil servants! No wonder banks give them loans so easily. If GOK declines to pay them for a couple of months, banks would makes losses.
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InnovateGuy
#57 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:05:57 AM
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These teachers are just grumbling over nothing. Why can't they resign and join private businesses if they want more money?
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#58 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 9:52:28 AM
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InnovateGuy wrote:
These teachers are just grumbling over nothing. Why can't they resign and join private businesses if they want more money?

the strike is just an avenue to get more leave days, they will be away from work for like 2-4 weeks, still get paid for that and get the normal 3 months leave + weekends and to top it up no targets or work performance review.
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#59 Posted : Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:58:13 AM
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ZZE123 wrote:
McReggae wrote:
It's foolish for teachers to storm private schools demanding that their counterparts from the private sector join in the strike.

Quite sad it has come to this.Sad Sad But again students in private schools get an "unfair advantage"


How?
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McReggae
#60 Posted : Monday, July 01, 2013 9:48:24 AM
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The Indutrial court has orderd teachers to resume work by 90am tomorrow. Labour ministry ordered to lead the negotiatins and report back to the court on 15th July, 2013!!!!

What will give????
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