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Cord recalls parliamentary committee members
kingfisher
#21 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:12:30 AM
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McReggae wrote:
CORD is only asking to guide the watchdog committees, not the others, a govt cannot check itself and after all after the committee hands it's report to parliament, they can always use the tyranny to throw them out!!!!


parliament checks executive.... now when you state that CORD wants to check government, are you implying that parliament is only made of CORD?
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McReggae
#22 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:14:33 AM
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TAZ wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:

You didn't realize that common sense wasn't there when the standing orders were changed by the 10th Parliament. Now in Kenya, Opposition doesn't have to control oversight committees. Don't make it a Jubilee/Cord thing, blame the 10th August house.


I agree with you, it was a 10th parliament's mistake. But the media and a section of Wazuans want us to believe that it was ODM who did it, and that ODM is now ALL in CORD, which is a lie.



"The amended Standing Orders currently in use were tabled at the tail end of the last Parliament when MPs were busy with nominations. It was passed by a few MPs who did not scrutinise it properly, thus the inconsistencies it has," Tongaren MP David Eseli (Ford-Kenya)

I'd really like to know who are these "few" MPs who passed the amendment.


Btw the claim was made by a Jubilee MP who was in the 10th Parliament, not Wazuans or the media.

@ Mc Reggae......I think Jubilee have no problem with CORD taking the leadership role in those two committees but for CORD to demand a majority of members as well is just ridiculous.


@TAZ, for starters the ammendment was proposed by one Ekwe Ethuro, the current jubilee speaker of the senate!!!!!......leadership without the majority will man nothing as all the reports will not see the light of the day....go down memory lane of how PIC and PAC have been operating since 1992 when we started the multypartism era!!!
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McReggae
#23 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:17:30 AM
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kingfisher wrote:
McReggae wrote:
CORD is only asking to guide the watchdog committees, not the others, a govt cannot check itself and after all after the committee hands it's report to parliament, they can always use the tyranny to throw them out!!!!


parliament checks executive.... now when you state that CORD wants to check government, are you implying that parliament is only made of CORD?


The opposition check the executive!!!!....minority checks the majority, parliament checking the executive is a fallacy and you very well know it!!!!
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2012
#24 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:38:12 AM
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Yaani the opposition is run through mobile phone by an old man. No wonder it's not working.

BBI will solve it
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Njung'e
#25 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 9:44:45 AM
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It's a winner takes it all sad situation and it won't help to continue making noise (i thought grown up men stopped crying about "stolen" elections long ago).Amend the standing orders as i doubt traditions will overule the same in this case.

For a winner take it all situation,watch Charlie Chaplin boxing match in this 1931 pantomime

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot1-O7nEvmk
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#26 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:42:28 AM
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What does the standing orders say? What should be the approach? Cant CORD initiate a motion to change the standing orders first? If they get the majority as it is now, wont they be bending the parliament rules that governs them?
nakujua
#27 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 10:52:53 AM
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washiku wrote:
What does the standing orders say? What should be the approach? Cant CORD initiate a motion to change the standing orders first? If they get the majority as it is now, wont they be bending the parliament rules that governs them?

m-pigs are thick, they can not follow basic parliamentary rules that they themselves set - the changed rules are clearly set out, representation on the committees is on a ratio of the number of members parties have in the house and the salaries commission sets the salary of m-pigs among others.

if they can not grasp such elementary issues then it would be better if the executive controlled them, they were better behaved back then.
jaggernaut
#28 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:03:26 AM
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Haha during the debate, Shebesh said that Jubilee is tired of apologizing to Cord for having won the last election by 800,000 votes.
Njung'e
#29 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 11:38:42 AM
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jaggernaut wrote:
Haha during the debate, Shebesh said that Jubilee is tired of apologizing to Cord for having won the last election by 800,000 votes.


and i think by that she meant that Jubilee can show Cord the middle finger and go ahead to constitute committees without their members.Going by the house strength,Jubilee has 18 members while only 19 members are required to form a quorum.....i won't be surprised.
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#30 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 12:47:26 PM
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2012 wrote:
Yaani the opposition is run through mobile phone by an old man. No wonder it's not working.


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