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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,330 Location: Masada
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jaggernaut wrote:Impunity wrote:Elder wrote:
You may want to re-read his/her post. That's why he is blaming the electorate and democracy.
H/she is blaming the highly educated and MBA holders electorate; and I ask him/her how can these group of electorate bring the change he/she wants? Am saying that there are more competent people to run Nairobi except those clowns Waititu, Sonko & co. We have competent people like Jimnah Mbaru, Kidero, Gakuo etc that the electorate should consider. But the problem with democracy is that it is a popularity contest and competency is given a back seat. Sad that even some of the highly educated and knowledgeable wazua middo crass seem to support sonko and co. Simply because history tells us that Leadership is not found in books and MBAs. We had people like Anyang' Nyong'o, Kivutha Kibwana, Sam Ongeri,Oburu Oginga and several MBA holders who have done dismally compared to Sonkos! Live with it. Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Impunity wrote:wanyuru wrote:i think @Impunity will not vote for Wanjiru, ongoro or Sonko. He will vote for Millicent Omanga  Weka piksha yake! You want to land in Amsterdam with WSR?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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Impunity wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Impunity wrote:Elder wrote:
You may want to re-read his/her post. That's why he is blaming the electorate and democracy.
H/she is blaming the highly educated and MBA holders electorate; and I ask him/her how can these group of electorate bring the change he/she wants? Am saying that there are more competent people to run Nairobi except those clowns Waititu, Sonko & co. We have competent people like Jimnah Mbaru, Kidero, Gakuo etc that the electorate should consider. But the problem with democracy is that it is a popularity contest and competency is given a back seat. Sad that even some of the highly educated and knowledgeable wazua middo crass seem to support sonko and co. Simply because history tells us that Leadership is not found in books and MBAs. We had people like Anyang' Nyong'o, Kivutha Kibwana, Sam Ongeri,Oburu Oginga and several MBA holders who have done dismally compared to Sonkos! Live with it. Ditto!! The MBA holders should look in the dailies for vacancies and apply.They should leave politics to others.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@jaggernaut, the middle and educated class dont care and are too busy. Even if they had enough numbers, they wouldnt participate in important events. For instance, how many here will vote in the nominations?
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/17/2010 Posts: 572
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2012 wrote:jaggernaut wrote:2012 wrote:simonkabz wrote:Sonko is a rough activist. He fits very well as senator or MP. Sonko and Waititu are bright. If you want votes then target the watus, forget the rich and middle class (us), their votes are very insignificant. And that's the biggest problem. Because it means that the fate of all the property owners/business owners/multinationals in nairobi, from Runda to karen to Kileleshwa to south B to Umoja is in the hands of the 70% of Nairobians who belong to the lower classes and may be living in informal settlements, people who share little (ideals/aspirations/expectations) with the other 30%, who include the real owners/movers/shakers of nairobi. I actually don't think it's a problem. We brought this on ourselves. Why should one man be living in an 18 room mansion in Runda while an extended family of 12 lives in a one room mad house in Kibera? In any society, you fight for the poor and not the rich because you are as weak as your weakest link. In Kenya we failed to do that and it's payback time. The inequality gap is just too big but now the majority have a voice. Democracy is a b****, ain't it. one day the sky will fall on our heads and when it does the have nots will devour the haves and external 'dark forces' will use this to have their way in kenya and kenya will be no more, lets strive to empower the have nots to have because they will break or make kenya 'One headache for famous medieval holy people was that someone might murder you to acquire your body parts for the relics trade'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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mawinder wrote:Impunity wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Impunity wrote:Elder wrote:
You may want to re-read his/her post. That's why he is blaming the electorate and democracy.
H/she is blaming the highly educated and MBA holders electorate; and I ask him/her how can these group of electorate bring the change he/she wants? Am saying that there are more competent people to run Nairobi except those clowns Waititu, Sonko & co. We have competent people like Jimnah Mbaru, Kidero, Gakuo etc that the electorate should consider. But the problem with democracy is that it is a popularity contest and competency is given a back seat. Sad that even some of the highly educated and knowledgeable wazua middo crass seem to support sonko and co. Simply because history tells us that Leadership is not found in books and MBAs. We had people like Anyang' Nyong'o, Kivutha Kibwana, Sam Ongeri,Oburu Oginga and several MBA holders who have done dismally compared to Sonkos! Live with it. Ditto!! The MBA holders should look in the dailies for vacancies and apply.They should leave politics to others. You mean like they seek vacancies at Nairobi county departments but leave the overall top job, governor, for waititu?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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jaggernaut wrote:mawinder wrote:Impunity wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Impunity wrote:Elder wrote:
You may want to re-read his/her post. That's why he is blaming the electorate and democracy.
H/she is blaming the highly educated and MBA holders electorate; and I ask him/her how can these group of electorate bring the change he/she wants? Am saying that there are more competent people to run Nairobi except those clowns Waititu, Sonko & co. We have competent people like Jimnah Mbaru, Kidero, Gakuo etc that the electorate should consider. But the problem with democracy is that it is a popularity contest and competency is given a back seat. Sad that even some of the highly educated and knowledgeable wazua middo crass seem to support sonko and co. Simply because history tells us that Leadership is not found in books and MBAs. We had people like Anyang' Nyong'o, Kivutha Kibwana, Sam Ongeri,Oburu Oginga and several MBA holders who have done dismally compared to Sonkos! Live with it. Ditto!! The MBA holders should look in the dailies for vacancies and apply.They should leave politics to others. You mean like they seek vacancies at Nairobi county departments but leave the overall top job, governor, for waititu? Exactly.That is where they will be able to showcase their management skills e.g Kidero can be incharge of city medical facilities,Mbaru incharge of transport,Mokua incharge of markets,Gakuo incharge of administration etc.Btw,Gakuo achieved much as an employee with the mayor and kanjoras.He should continue with his roles and I doubt the mayor was a graduate.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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simonkabz wrote:I registered in Nairobi. Sonko pap. Gakuo pap! I would be glad if YT2 becomes Gakuo's deputy. The governer will have an able mobilizer n a deputy with ears on the ground. Mbaru is too elitist for me, a boardroom guy. Another good team would be Kidero Governer n wanjiru deputy, but gakuo's team would be most suitable.... . Hapo umefikiria kama wazee saba.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/27/2011 Posts: 1,777
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jaggernaut wrote:2012 wrote:simonkabz wrote:Sonko is a rough activist. He fits very well as senator or MP. Sonko and Waititu are bright. If you want votes then target the watus, forget the rich and middle class (us), their votes are very insignificant. And that's the biggest problem because the rich and middle class, who have a very huge stake in the city are outnumbered. And it means that the fate of all the property owners/business owners/multinationals in nairobi, from Runda to karen to Kileleshwa to south B to Umoja is in the hands of the 70% of Nairobians who belong to the lower classes and may be living in informal settlements, people who share little (ideals/aspirations/expectations) with the other 30%, who include the real owners/movers/shakers of nairobi. And they've got nothing to lose by voting in your so called 'semi-literate' jokers.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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jaggernaut wrote:Impunity wrote:Elder wrote:
You may want to re-read his/her post. That's why he is blaming the electorate and democracy.
H/she is blaming the highly educated and MBA holders electorate; and I ask him/her how can these group of electorate bring the change he/she wants? Am saying that there are more competent people to run Nairobi except those clowns Waititu, Sonko & co. We have competent people like Jimnah Mbaru, Kidero, Gakuo etc that the electorate should consider. But the problem with democracy is that it is a popularity contest and competency is given a back seat. Sad that even some of the highly educated and knowledgeable wazua middo crass seem to support sonko and co. The problem is not democracy but the electorate. In some developed and civilized societies, democracy works very well and good leaders are elected. Our electorate need to get well educated both academically, socially & get civilized to look over and above tribe and popularity. Until we do this we will keep voting same old tired non performing tribal chiefs. I would live with either Mbaru, Gakuo or Kidero. All others is a no for me. i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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harrydre wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Impunity wrote:Elder wrote:
You may want to re-read his/her post. That's why he is blaming the electorate and democracy.
H/she is blaming the highly educated and MBA holders electorate; and I ask him/her how can these group of electorate bring the change he/she wants? Am saying that there are more competent people to run Nairobi except those clowns Waititu, Sonko & co. We have competent people like Jimnah Mbaru, Kidero, Gakuo etc that the electorate should consider. But the problem with democracy is that it is a popularity contest and competency is given a back seat. Sad that even some of the highly educated and knowledgeable wazua middo crass seem to support sonko and co. The problem is not democracy but the electorate. In some developed and civilized societies, democracy works very well and good leaders are elected. Our electorate need to get well educated both academically, socially & get civilized to look over and above tribe and popularity. Until we do this we will keep voting same old tired non performing tribal chiefs. I would live with either Mbaru, Gakuo or Kidero. All others is a no for me. Waititu for governor,Mbaru head of infrastructure,Gakuo head of administration,Kidero head of planning.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/9/2009 Posts: 1,262
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uuuuiii.....  YT2 clinches governor ticket....... Honestly TiNA how could you do this to Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/9/2008 Posts: 5,389
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On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/9/2009 Posts: 1,262
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jaggernaut wrote:On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership? can you imagine "Instamt justice embakasi style" combined with wall punching......
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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jaggernaut wrote:On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership? like this, wonder why hullabaloo about yt2, rumours are kdr is just another mkora in a suit. Given the two, i would rather the stone thrower. Democracy does not belong to the dead
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/30/2008 Posts: 6,029
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githundi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership? like this, wonder why hullabaloo about yt2, rumours are kdr is just another mkora in a suit. Given the two, i would rather the stone thrower. DITTO!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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mawinder wrote:githundi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership? like this, wonder why hullabaloo about yt2, rumours are kdr is just another mkora in a suit. Given the two, i would rather the stone thrower. DITTO! So far so good,you asked for it na mtakipata. Refer to @poundfoolishes analysis. I can't believe iTiNA would pass over Jimna and Gakuo for Waititu who still will have to deal with explaining his dubious degree. Its almost like iTiNA party's main mission is to ruin this great nation Kenya. That degree had better be very clean coz I can assure you the first order of business for kidero will be to send a PI to completely verify YT2's educational background. Then if he passes, the next step ni Kichapo kwa ballot. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/9/2009 Posts: 1,262
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githundi wrote:jaggernaut wrote:On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership? like this, wonder why hullabaloo about yt2, rumours are kdr is just another mkora in a suit. Given the two, i would rather the stone thrower. If his ukora took Mumias Sugar to where it is today..... Kdr any time Show me what YT2 has done, mobilize gangs? 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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jaggernaut wrote:On the positive side all land grabbers in nrb must now be trembling, what with a waititu & sonko leadership? This is how you verify a sober mind from an average intelligence fella infront of a computer...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/19/2010 Posts: 1,308 Location: nairobi metropolitan
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On another note, this thinking that those voting for Rao and Kidero are using their head, while those who are voting Uhuruto and yt2 are not, or those voting for Uhuruto are tribalist and those voting for Railalonzo are nationalist are stretching it too far. Politics is local. You will see Raila antics of kenya has 42 tribes, while dangling the running mate position to the big 5. Hypocrisy has to end. Am amazed that learned buy to this propaganda and then proceed to think there are the ones voting with their heads. 70 % of Nrb popn lives in slums. Guys say their manifesto is about fighting the high inequality in the country, but when a guy from the slums is on the verge of taking leadership. They say we don't need a slum dweller to lead Nairobi, while he is the guy how to assist the poor. They now want the elitist kdr. I cannot stomach this hypocrisy. Democracy does not belong to the dead
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