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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Bafu chafu!!! Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Ngalaka wrote:techboy wrote:soooo, if uhuru DOES get into statehouse, who will be in control, him or the devil???? You are not alone brother! Welcome to the club. Now, you may want to agree with me that Raila will become president because of mistakes of Uhuru and Ruto. As G7 they had it all under wraps, but due to their apparent headstrong traits displayed, they have now bungled things to a point where salvaging is almost impossible! Its now a case of spilt Brookside Milk. It was always heading to be G1....the fellows who composed the G7 have all been silenced and played one way or the other..where is Tuju, Kalonzo, Eugene? You have to give it up to the Uhuru handlers.....Now that MDvd has been added to the list of those who have been swindled, is Bill Ruto sitting pretty ama anaona?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Jus Blazin wrote:Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Jana's crying over a deal that is not with the registrar of parties, was a big-time goof. Uhuruto are serious minds. UK admits that he signed a deal, so he didn't go back on the deal, unlike what many are saying here. He simply says his delegates refused the deal. I don't know what people are saying here, my take is that the two agreements move hand in hand. The reason MaDVD signed with Jubilee was because he was promised the presidency by UK "under the devils influence" So for me you must implement both. Is it something along the lines of the state of mind when signing a contract? "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Jana's crying over a deal that is not with the registrar of parties, was a big-time goof. Uhuruto are serious minds. UK admits that he signed a deal, so he didn't go back on the deal, unlike what many are saying here. He simply says his delegates refused the deal. I don't know what people are saying here, my take is that the two agreements move hand in hand. The reason MaDVD signed with Jubilee was because he was promised the presidency by UK "under the devils influence" So for me you must implement both. Is it something along the lines of the state of mind when signing a contract? The agreement filed with the Registra is between parties. The secret one was between individuals. Mudavadi was played plain and simple! If he were to pursue the line of compelling Uhuru to honour their private MOU, he would be further showing his naivete! For starters, if Uhuru as an individual agrees to back him and TNA doesnt, where would that take him Secondly in political matters you can not compel people to support you, you persuade them to willing throw their weight and resouces behind your candidature! Mudavadi has only one choice now, take a walk and not look back. when the deal is too good, think again! japo washamtia maji tayari! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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techboy wrote:soooo, if uhuru DOES get into statehouse, who will be in control, him or the devil???? If you've never met the devil in the road of life., its because you're both heading in the same direction, let's hope Uhuru has now changed direction
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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@Ngalaka. I disagree, Uhuru signed as the leader and presidential candidate of TNA, not as himself. You are right, pursuing this with UK legally will certainly not get him any votes, but he has the right to rescind the agreement filed with the registrar of political parties and pursue his own presidential ambitions. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/29/2008 Posts: 1,566
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:@Ngalaka. I disagree, Uhuru signed as the leader and presidential candidate of TNA, not as himself.
You are right, pursuing this with UK legally will certainly not get him any votes, but he has the right to rescind the agreement filed with the registrar of political parties and pursue his own presidential ambitions. Aii nanii To commit a party to matters of such magnitude, you need to get the party's organs to pass such as a resolution in a meeting/conference. Check again! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/12/2007 Posts: 391
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Jus Blazin wrote:Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Jana's crying over a deal that is not with the registrar of parties, was a big-time goof. Uhuruto are serious minds. UK admits that he signed a deal, so he didn't go back on the deal, unlike what many are saying here. He simply says his delegates refused the deal. That it's the delegates who have refused the deal with MM.He should tell that to the birds. Leadership means influencing ya supporters to take a particular direction n not vice versa. Btw, when were these so called delegates elected by the people? UK goofed big time n burned any vote he hoped of getting from Western Age is transforming me into an Elder;becoz Admin hasn't made me one.
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MADE wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Jana's crying over a deal that is not with the registrar of parties, was a big-time goof. Uhuruto are serious minds. UK admits that he signed a deal, so he didn't go back on the deal, unlike what many are saying here. He simply says his delegates refused the deal. That it's the delegates who have refused the deal with MM.He should tell that to the birds. Leadership means influencing ya supporters to take a particular direction n not vice versa. Btw, when were these so called delegates elected by the people? UK goofed big time n burned any vote he hoped of getting from Western Kweli @MADE. The delegates sing the song they are told to sing. Someone has simply told them what to do here - reason they are always paid to attend the delegates conference. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/26/2008 Posts: 2,097
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Robinhood wrote:MADE wrote:[quote=Jus Blazin]Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Btw, when were these so called delegates elected by the people? UK goofed big time n burned any vote he hoped of getting from Western Kweli @MADE. The delegates sing the song they are told to sing. Someone has simply told them what to do here - reason they are always paid to attend the delegates conference. Who are these delegates??? UDF/TNA have never done grassroots elections. These are just sycophants picked left and right to sing the tune of their masters. Someone Colloct me if I am long!  "Never regret, if its good, its wonderful. If its bad, its experience."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Tebes wrote:Who are these delegates??? UDF/TNA have never done grassroots elections. These are just sycophants picked left and right to sing the tune of their masters. Someone Colloct me if I am long! How long is too long so I can colloct you? Are you on UK's cheap liquor? I was also wondering how this delegate thing would work. Mdvd brings 2k delegates and UK 2k delegates, then there's a tie and URP are not supposed to participate.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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2012 wrote:How long is too long so I can colloct you? Are you on UK's cheap liquor?
I was also wondering how this delegate thing would work. Mdvd brings 2k delegates and UK 2k delegates, then there's a tie and URP are not supposed to participate. I thought he takes expensive liquor since he has the money??  The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/24/2010 Posts: 637 Location: Nairobi
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2012 wrote:Tebes wrote:Who are these delegates??? UDF/TNA have never done grassroots elections. These are just sycophants picked left and right to sing the tune of their masters. Someone Colloct me if I am long! How long is too long so I can colloct you? Are you on UK's cheap liquor? I was also wondering how this delegate thing would work. Mdvd brings 2k delegates and UK 2k delegates, then there's a tie and URP are not supposed to participate. Pliz note that half or more of UDF delegates are UKs supporters out on hire to MDVD to make his outfit look NAtional.Dont even imagine that pple like Jeremiah kioni and Muriithi are his true followers unless you are naive enough to bealive so. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
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Tebes wrote:Robinhood wrote:MADE wrote:[quote=Jus Blazin]Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Btw, when were these so called delegates elected by the people? UK goofed big time n burned any vote he hoped of getting from Western Kweli @MADE. The delegates sing the song they are told to sing. Someone has simply told them what to do here - reason they are always paid to attend the delegates conference. Who are these delegates??? UDF/TNA have never done grassroots elections. These are just sycophants picked left and right to sing the tune of their masters. Someone Collect me if I am long! . The problem is that, when MaDVD was promised the presidency, the handing over was to be tactically executed so that the kingmaker could have the audacity to sell the "project" to the voters.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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Rahatupu wrote:Tebes wrote:Robinhood wrote:MADE wrote:[quote=Jus Blazin]Musa-lia should just fire his PR guys. Btw, when were these so called delegates elected by the people? UK goofed big time n burned any vote he hoped of getting from Western Kweli @MADE. The delegates sing the song they are told to sing. Someone has simply told them what to do here - reason they are always paid to attend the delegates conference. Who are these delegates??? UDF/TNA have never done grassroots elections. These are just sycophants picked left and right to sing the tune of their masters. Someone Collect me if I am long! . The problem is that, when MaDVD was promised the presidency, the handing over was to be tactically executed so that the kingmaker could have the audacity to sell the "project" to the voters. I totally agree with you, i think the biggest mistake MaDVDi made was by going public to declare ati UK was supposed to step down for him, who does that? This guy is such a useless chap, hata SKM afadhali. UK & WR should just kick him out, what do they stand to lose anyway in terms of numbers. All party delegates (ODM, TNA, Wiper, URP & UDF) are psycophants who usually rely on hand-outs.....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Me thinks that whoever came up with the idea of a Musalia candidature had good intentions. His dream has however been ruined by Mista Kiniatta whose delusional thoughts make him think he will beat Raila. He wont, and he wont be president! The moment Jubilee confirms him as their flagbearer, the elections will be decided!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,569
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Ati legally, Mdvd in his own capacity can leave Jubilee but his party, UDF(+ Kanu) cannot leave Jubilee under the constitution. Mudavadi in his own capacity "kama raia wa kawaida" also has a legal deadline to leave Jubilee. Now UDF/KANU members who do not want to leave, will elect a new leader who will face it out with Uhuru to be Jubilees candidate and lead a group with 1/3 mkate (instead of 1/2 mkate) into the new government. Si many will remain? Or will Mudavadi fight it out? There is now a new hot seat if Mudavadi leaves as "raia wa kawaida" to follow ODM (and basically RAO). Of course there will be a big fight for Mdvds vacant position, which will rejuvenate Jubilee. This is also why Uhuru, could not make acceptable decisions in his own capacity "kama raia wa kawaida" without consulting TNA. As if he does not want to stand, they have a deadline to elect a new leader, even if he shifts from another party, like the Chokoh  Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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@much know, wacha zako! Ati Uhuru needed TNA to approve? What is TNA without Uhuru? It is just like ODM without Raila-DEAD! The MPs and delegates are just followers, the leader calls, they follow.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:MM now on Citizen. needed a better interviewer!!! MDvd didn't answer the question on quitting ODM because of demanding delegates and now he wants consensus. He should realize ODM agreed to his demands, but he left anyway...
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