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Paul Muite
mwenza
#21 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 8:27:00 AM
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@mtaalam.....Hehehehehehehe,eti debt is not what? thats a good one. LMAO!

NEVER HONOUR A PROMISE THAT PUTS YOU AT A DISADVANTAGE!!!
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
Chaka
#22 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 8:28:00 AM
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@mtaalam,

he he,yes but it can lead to a disease ..........such HBP.

What I meant is to bail him out with the cash she makes as a Dr.


mwenza
#23 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 8:37:00 AM
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@chaka...of coz everybody understood what u meant but mtaalam wanted to brighten this boring friday

NEVER HONOUR A PROMISE THAT PUTS YOU AT A DISADVANTAGE!!!
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
across
#24 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 8:45:00 AM
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@ mtaalam..LOL!!!you made my friday
jipinde
#25 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 9:06:00 AM
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Can Kibaki break a man that Moi found hard to crack?

The nyayo goons attacked his milk processing plant in Kerwa-Kikuyu and teamed up with one Mr.Ndungu to bring about the Pattni saga which resulted in total collapse of his Thugi River flower farms.

Now the Central old school have bought his house ostensibly to bring to him to his knees.

But this guy is one tough jerk and this storm will pass.


......the truth shall set you free.
adept
#26 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 9:17:00 AM
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I have my differences of opinion with Muite but on this one I was sad for him and his family. Losing such a home and especially so at his age is tragic and can be a dangerously stressful. He tried to put on a brave face but it is tough,maybe mildly emasculating,for a man.

Could this be his only residential property? Trying to negotiate with (or force?) the new owner to accept him as a tenant seemed desperate. Granted it was worth a hefty chunk. I hope he has a 'fallback' home.

But despite all this,I do not see politicians pulling the strings on this. Double standards maybe but not overt political pressure.

By double standards I mean NBK are aggressively pursuing the guys whose political clout has diminished while bidding their time on the ones that can still make alot of powerful noise (thru' the powers that be) if you try and touch them. That may be the strategy they have adopted. I think it is something NBK has to live with until all the political loans of yesteryears are sorted out.

In addition,I do not completely buy Muite's claim that he offered them KES 150M and they refused and accepted a lower offer. I would rather believe the bank than a politician unless proven otherwise. First of all,it would be foolhardy for a bank to pull such a stunt on a politician. Obviously the guy will make a lot of noise. Why risk your business worth billions on a crooked deal worth millions? Doesn't make sense and I am sure the MD and Board have followed this issue closely.

Secondly,once you default,the disposal of the asset is at the Bank's discretion. Strictly speaking,you have effectively lost the right to the property. Any concessions by the bank is largely goodwill.

In any case,there are many gaps in that statement. When was the offer done if ever? (before or after the property was sold) Was it in cash or by installments? Had he done so before i.e. had he numerously promised to pay the full amount in cash over the 15-20 years the loan has been in arrears? What has his relationship been with the bank? (Bankers are people. Assume a hostile,haughty or dodgy stance when you default and you are likely to face harder times). Hopefully,one can get answers to these and many other questions from an independent party.

It would be interesting to have heard NBK's side of the story. However,any smart business person will,as much as possible,try and avoid engaging a politican in a mud-slinging media campaign.

Remember,politicians do not mind getting dirty while banks usually do.
mtaalam
#27 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 9:21:00 AM
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@Chaka
The worst thing you can do is bail a politician out financially.
One of my good friend was a first timer mpig in the last parliament. He lost his seat in the last elections. With all the money he was getting he lost it all and the properties he had before are now held by banks and shylock. His Prado was sold soon after elections.
In other words he's now worse than he was and the one thing he doesn't regret is losing his seat because debt according to him accumulates everyday with juicy offers from banks etc. Maisha mbaya!

The best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now.
mwenza
#28 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 9:32:00 AM
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@mtaalam...u mean even as a wife u cant bail out ua politician hubby?

NEVER HONOUR A PROMISE THAT PUTS YOU AT A DISADVANTAGE!!!
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
Silk
#29 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 10:24:00 AM
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Crocodile tears. Ama anataka tumfanyie harambee?? Or he thinks he is very special. Sure was looking for media sympathy now that he's their lawyer but the first family had nothing to do with it. If i remember correctly,this started a while back before kibs took over. And that's not all,he's even defrauded locals thru shoddy schemes. Talk of petty politics.

Life is too short.
MADE
#30 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2009 10:26:00 AM
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Didnt Kibs state clearly that he would deal with Kibugi thoroughly either in court or elsewhere?......politico scores are being settled like in a Nigerian movie. I pity our learned friend

It's not where yu are,but where yu want to be.
Age is transforming me into an Elder;becoz Admin hasn't made me one.
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