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Tony Gachoka blowing the whistle
Manyala
#41 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 6:14:31 PM
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murchr wrote:
Manyala wrote:
[quote=Njung'e]“I have evidence to show that violence was premeditated, coordinated, planned, commissioned and executed by the order of the PM,” Gachoka said in a phone interview. He said that he will show that prior to the 2007 election, the ODM pursued a policy of “42 against 1.” He said the Pentagon—the summit of the party's leadership—was formed in furtherance to this policy which targeted the Kikuyu community.


http://www.the-star.co.k...ate-raila-in-poll-chaos[/quote]

Okay, so he knew all this and did not think it necessary to inform the authorities, to prevent the massacres from happening? 4 years down the line what has changed, that opened his 'eyes' to reveal this. Totally smells fishy to me. In fact I can smell a fish. To be precise, it looks like a fish; to quote Thompson and Tompson of Tin Tin.

Whats with this 42 against 1' theory? Is it a crime. G7 is also against 1. Naomba . . . . .


If you read the Wikileaks cables that were released in 08, the embassy discussed the 41 against 1 and they even had a copy sent to washington. I listened to mama clinton ths wkd...the line that stuck with me is that which said that its important 4 leaders to let their supporters know that they have lost elections and respect that.


We are talking about post election and not pre election strategy?
itz
#42 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 6:42:11 PM
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Whats with this 42 against 1' theory? Is it a crime. G7 is also against 1. Naomba . . . . .

@Manyala are you serious asking whether its a crime to campaign against a tribe?
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#43 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 6:51:21 PM
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itz wrote:
Whats with this 42 against 1' theory? Is it a crime. G7 is also against 1. Naomba . . . . .

@Manyala are you serious asking whether its a crime to campaign against a tribe?


@manyala Silenced Silenced Silenced Silenced
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murchr
#44 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 6:54:00 PM
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Manyala wrote:


We are talking about post election and not pre election strategy?


What led to the other?
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#45 Posted : Monday, August 06, 2012 7:17:07 PM
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murchr wrote:
Manyala wrote:


We are talking about post election and not pre election strategy?


What led to the other?


I have given the Manyala guy a gag order. He doesn't know what he is talking about.
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Njung'e
#46 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 11:29:11 AM
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Secure interview between Gachoka and a high-ranking staffer at the Office of the Prosecutor is in the offing.Game!
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Jamani
#47 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 12:39:01 PM
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@Njung'e Gameover it will be dismissed as hearsay...
Impunity
#48 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:07:42 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Secure interview between Gachoka and a high-ranking staffer at the Office of the Prosecutor is in the offing.Game!


Staffer? Why not with the prosecutor herself?
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#49 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 1:11:04 PM
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Jamani wrote:
@Njung'e Gameover it will be dismissed as hearsay...


It will not be wished away just like that. Looking at the bigger picture, it is not the PMpigs credibility at stake, but rather that of the ICC itself. Why? Because some known international figures played a key role according to TG.
This does not look like the normal kenyan pre-election madslinging
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#50 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:11:54 PM
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segemia wrote:
Jamani wrote:
@Njung'e Gameover it will be dismissed as hearsay...


It will not be wished away just like that. Looking at the bigger picture, it is not the PMpigs credibility at stake, but rather that of the ICC itself. Why? Because some known international figures played a key role according to TG.
This does not look like the normal kenyan pre-election madslinging



I have an extremely very low opinion about this thing called the ICC. I fear it will be that last straw that broke the Kenyan back Pray Pray
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#51 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 2:16:24 PM
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Hostile witness...... naye amepewa ngapi? mwenzake ametoroka at this rate Uhuru and company will be very broke by the time the run-off kicks off
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#52 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:19:55 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Secure interview between Gachoka and a high-ranking staffer at the Office of the Prosecutor is in the offing.Game!

The last time I heard something like that it was one Ruto who had gone to the Hague to 'set the record straight.' You are setting yourself up for a fall (of expectations) @Guka.
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Njung'e
#53 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:07:32 PM
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@Guka.


I am not the source.You may crucify whoever broke the news.

http://www.standardmedia...er-Raila-aide-interview
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harrydre
#54 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:37:25 PM
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I don't think TG has anything to offer icc that will be credible enough and beyond any reasonable doubt and what took him so long anyway?
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#55 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 5:53:33 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
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@Guka.


I am not the source.You may crucify whoever broke the news.

http://www.standardmedia...er-Raila-aide-interview

My comment was influenced by your 'Game!' comment.
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#56 Posted : Saturday, August 11, 2012 6:53:21 PM
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harrydre wrote:
I don't think TG has anything to offer icc that will be credible enough and beyond any reasonable doubt and what took him so long anyway?


Me thinks he is not that patriotic. Me thinks he is on somebody's payroll.
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#57 Posted : Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:48:56 AM
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it's actually a big shame as a country when people keep running to ICC to 'staki' others of a,b c as if we are a failed state!! Sad Sad Sad Sad
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#58 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:26:47 AM
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Advice to Tony Gachoka and Miguna Miguna,

This is a reminder that the ICC chief Prosecutor is in town. Go give her the evidence you were dying to go to the Hague to present. The money you could have used for the flight and accommodation at the Netherlands, you can use it to resettle 10-20 IDPs.
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Impunity
#59 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 9:39:46 AM
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McReggae wrote:
Advice to Tony Gachoka and Miguna Miguna,

This is a reminder that the ICC chief Prosecutor is in town. Go give her the evidence you were dying to go to the Hague to present. The money you could have used for the flight and accommodation at the Netherlands, you can use it to resettle 10-20 IDPs.

They can only do that in a movie.
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McReggae
#60 Posted : Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:05:19 AM
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Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Advice to Tony Gachoka and Miguna Miguna,

This is a reminder that the ICC chief Prosecutor is in town. Go give her the evidence you were dying to go to the Hague to present. The money you could have used for the flight and accommodation at the Netherlands, you can use it to resettle 10-20 IDPs.

They can only do that in a movie.


Trust them to start making noise next week after Bensoudah leaves town!!!
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