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mkeiyd		#21 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:39:39 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182		nakujua wrote: abdulrahman wrote: The "reformer" is indeed a "reformer". I have never seen or heard something he reformed in Kibera. well, I don't think we can measure his alleged reforms from kibera - I think that's being a tad too harsh on him. I think he played some part in the reform movement in the 80's and maybe early 90's. He was not the among the major guys, but he was in there somewhere. Who were those big guys?
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mkeiyd		#22 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:44:17 AM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182		nakujua wrote: abdulrahman wrote: The "reformer" is indeed a "reformer". I have never seen or heard something he reformed in Kibera. well, I don't think we can measure his alleged reforms from kibera - I think that's being a tad too harsh on him. I think he played some part in the reform movement in the 80's and maybe early 90's. He was not the among the major guys, but he was in there somewhere. Who were those big guys?
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Money Whisperer		#23 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:46:17 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2010 Posts: 728 Location: Wazuaville		mkeiyd wrote: Who were those big guys? Jaramogi Anyona Shikuku Njeru Kathangu Orengo Matiba "Money never sleeps"
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Money Whisperer		#24 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 2:49:21 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2010 Posts: 728 Location: Wazuaville		Kratos wrote: Today's paper had the apologists PR team on over drive. Again killing the messenger to dilute the message. Why do makau Mutua and sarah Elderkin have to go for ad hominems instead of addressing the issues put forth by Ja-Nyando? Calling him delusional and making aspersions that he is schizophrenic doesn't prove anything. If a madman walks around the market shouting Kibaki is the president would you say he is lying because he is mad? "Money never sleeps"
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Lucid_Iam		#25 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:14:33 PM
Rank: Member Joined: 9/30/2011 Posts: 483		Money Whisperer wrote: Kratos wrote: Today's paper had the apologists PR team on over drive. Again killing the messenger to dilute the message. Why do makau Mutua and sarah Elderkin have to go for ad hominems instead of addressing the issues put forth by Ja-Nyando? Calling him delusional and making aspersions that he is schizophrenic doesn't prove anything. If a madman walks around the market shouting Kibaki is the president would you say he is lying because he is mad? This strategy is also counter productive IMHO.
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mkeiyd		#26 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:21:19 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 1,182		Money Whisperer wrote: mkeiyd wrote: Who were those big guys? Jaramogi Anyona Shikuku Njeru Kathangu Orengo Matiba Good to know.
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic		#27 Posted : Tuesday, July 31, 2012 6:06:38 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,225 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli		Money Whisperer wrote: mkeiyd wrote: Who were those big guys? Jaramogi Anyona Shikuku Njeru Kathangu Orengo Matiba And these forgotten heroes, some who even died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims in this country! Archbishop David Gitari Archbishop Alexander Muge(R.I.P) Reverend Timothy Njoya LEST WE FORGET! @SufficientlyP
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harrydre		#28 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:02:48 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo		There are many more people who have fought for reforms... George Anyona, Koigi Wamwere, Gitobu Imanyara, John Khaminwa, Gibson Kamau Kuria, Kenneth Matiba and Charles Rubia etc i.am.back!!!!
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murchr		#29 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 2:09:00 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		harrydre wrote: There are many more people who have fought for reforms... George Anyona, Koigi Wamwere, Gitobu Imanyara, John Khaminwa, Gibson Kamau Kuria, Kenneth Matiba and Charles Rubia etc Even Kiraitu Murungi was one of those who fought for reforms "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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nostoppingthis		#30 Posted : Wednesday, August 01, 2012 8:12:48 AM
Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi		murchr wrote: harrydre wrote: There are many more people who have fought for reforms... George Anyona, Koigi Wamwere, Gitobu Imanyara, John Khaminwa, Gibson Kamau Kuria, Kenneth Matiba and Charles Rubia etc Even Kiraitu Murungi was one of those who fought for reforms and eventually toed the line...
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