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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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Kausha wrote:There is no waxy oil, this is gabbage media likes to spew every once in a while. They said Uganda had waxy oil, which was gabbage and now I see they are talking about Kenya's oil being waxy. All I am saying is that Kengen is wittingly or unwittingly wrecking shareholder value through it's inefficiently organized financing. Now they want 120B equity for power projects this just means super dilution of existing shareholders to allow other big boys to come in meaning we are unlikely to ever get decent returns yet with a bit of financial engineering Kengen can deliver massive value for shareholders. My issue is that the need to maximize profitability of projects and not just create because there is mirage 2030, possibility of an electric rail etc. What if Mirage moves further and the electric train is out by 2 years, shareholders are toast. Already Kipevu III financed by Kengen Infrastructure bond is burning shareholders in a way. @ Kausha, Kipevu III is not necessarily a bad investment, what Kengen did with its 25B bond income was to upgrade most of its existing Geoplants and hydros including numerous small capacity plants in areas such as Garrissa, Sangoro and lamu. While this plants were off grid, Kipevu came in handy to replace the reduced capacity. Evacuation of power is not their problem, KenGen gets paid whether Kenya power or Ketraco choose to distribute or leave it idle. I don't understand why you think electric energy can only be used by heavy indstry, as it is, due to low capacity, use of power in every day domestic activities is priced out of the mwananchi's budget, and the middle income is priced out of use of the same for cooking etc. Kenyans are ready to pay for reasonably priced electicity. Kengen should keep increasing its production to meet the demands of every kenyan. Surely if SA with a population of 50m has 44,000 MW, why would you want Kenya with a population of 40M to settle for 1,200 MW. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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mkonomtupu wrote:sparkly wrote:Just looking at recent Kengen accounts and i have noted the following:
GOK owns 70% of the company, nssf 1.3%. Of the 204,000 shareholders, 200,000 are Wanjikus owning 100-10,000 shares.
In conclusion Kengen is a capital hungry company carrying out projects for vision 2030. The company, while growing its assets is not likely to increase its earnings meaningfully till 2015.
Meanwhile Kengen has loans of KShs 68B as at 2011 and has capital commitments of KShs 153B. I think time is right for GOK to do the second IPO, possibly followed by a rights issue.
I don't expect major upwards price movements, driven by fundamentals before year 2015. @sparkly, have you factored in that there is an upcoming power tariff review next year after elections. If kenya power and kengen have to attract counterpart funds then ERC must review the tariffs upwards at least 25%. Then consider kenya power under the tariff structure has to pay more for the newer plants. Even without the tariff review kengen half year profits grew 32%. Rights issue is coming next year they need to balance equity and debt. All in all this is the time to accumulate on this one with a long term view something to enjoy in old age or have the kids fight over Finally the power tariff review has come up http://www.businessdaily...8/-/1jriyy/-/index.html
Now kenya power can pay more for the new power plants. Let me now wait for the rights issue
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/8/2007 Posts: 808
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What's the ROI for Kipevu 3?I don't see power tariffs helping Kengen in anyway, all the money is going to go to KPLC.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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Kausha wrote:What's the ROI for Kipevu 3?I don't see power tariffs helping Kengen in anyway, all the money is going to go to KPLC. When you have time please read through the power tariff application http://www.kplc.co.ke/fi...013_Detailed_Version.pdf
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Frm the report above Quote:The commissioning of the 115MW Kipevu III MSD plant in March 2011 without corresponding increase in the transmission capacity between Mombasa and upcountry has led to an increase in transmission losses on the Rabai‐Nairobi, Rabai‐Kiambere as well as the lines between Nairobi and the hydros. This situation will prevail until the 400KV Mombasa‐Nairobi line is put into service Quote:The Water Resources Management Authority has charged KenGen a water levy of Kshs 0.05/kWh for electricity generation from hydro sources. KPLC has included this charge to the energy charge rate for KenGen hydros in determination of the proposed base revenue requirement. Quote: Some Local Authorities, Kenya Wildlife Service, Kenya Forest Services and Kenya Railways have variously imposed fees and charges for way‐leave rights that may be granted within their jurisdiction. The demand by local authorities and other government agencies, including the effect of the Roads Act, and the estimated expected claims from individual landowners would demand extra revenue of approximately Kshs 4.5 billion as detailed in Table 7 which would result to an increase in the retail tariff energy charge of Kshs 0.81/kWh. This revenue requirement does not include the extrapolated debt arrears of Kshs 8.2 billion which also need to be considered in the resolution of this issue "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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http://www.businessdaily...56/-/s1kqx2/-/index.html"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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These were my thoughts in August 2012... sparkly wrote:Just looking at recent Kengen accounts and i have noted the following:
The Nyayo government totally ignored the energy sector and there were virtually no new projects brought online between 1988 and 2003. Between 2003 and 2011, Kengen installed 465MW, 200MW being stop-gap thermal projects.
Kengen is carrying out the 2008-2018 projects in two phases , Horizon 1 (700 MW) to be completed by 2015 and Horizon 2 (1,100 MW)to be completed by 2018.
Horizon one has delivered 270MW so far, 120MW thermal (Kipevu III) and 150MW from a combination of small green sources like wind, geothermal and hydro.
The flagship projects for Horizon 1, Olkaria IV and Olkaria I unit 4 and 5 are set to be commissioned in 2014 and will deliver 140MW each.
The main projects for Horizon 2 are: two further Olkaria projects (310MW), Kilifi coal plant (600MW) and a natural gas plant (300MW.
While the capital employed has balloned from KShs 95B to 150B in the last 5 years, the revenue averaged KShs 10.7B between 2007 and 2010. This only went up to 13B in 2011 when Kipevu III and the small green projects were commissioned.
The next major jump in revenue is not expected until 2015 when the 280MW Olkaria projects are commissioned. There will be a small increase in revenue in 2014 when Muhoroni Thermal (80MW) is commissioned.
GOK owns 70% of the company, nssf 1.3%. Of the 204,000 shareholders, 200,000 are Wanjikus owning 100-10,000 shares.
In conclusion Kengen is a capital hungry company carrying out projects for vision 2030. The company, while growing its assets is not likely to increase its earnings meaningfully till 2015.
The current "Wanjiku heavy" shareholding structure only gets excited by a growth in earnings and dividend.
The company does not have institutions who might get excited by the growth in assets, hence the reason why the company is trading at P/B of 0.3.
GOK obviously does not care for dividends but i foresee the company continuing with the KShs 0.5 Div per year policy, whether the money is borrowed or not, to appease Wanjiku.
Meanwhile Kengen has loans of KShs 68B as at 2011 and has capital commitments of KShs 153B. I think time is right for GOK to do the second IPO, possibly followed by a rights issue.
I don't expect major upwards price movements, driven by fundamentals before year 2015. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/1/2010 Posts: 272 Location: Nairobi
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sparkly wrote:These were my thoughts in August 2012... sparkly wrote:Just looking at recent Kengen accounts and i have noted the following:
The Nyayo government totally ignored the energy sector and there were virtually no new projects brought online between 1988 and 2003. Between 2003 and 2011, Kengen installed 465MW, 200MW being stop-gap thermal projects.
Kengen is carrying out the 2008-2018 projects in two phases , Horizon 1 (700 MW) to be completed by 2015 and Horizon 2 (1,100 MW)to be completed by 2018.
Horizon one has delivered 270MW so far, 120MW thermal (Kipevu III) and 150MW from a combination of small green sources like wind, geothermal and hydro.
The flagship projects for Horizon 1, Olkaria IV and Olkaria I unit 4 and 5 are set to be commissioned in 2014 and will deliver 140MW each.
The main projects for Horizon 2 are: two further Olkaria projects (310MW), Kilifi coal plant (600MW) and a natural gas plant (300MW.
While the capital employed has balloned from KShs 95B to 150B in the last 5 years, the revenue averaged KShs 10.7B between 2007 and 2010. This only went up to 13B in 2011 when Kipevu III and the small green projects were commissioned.
The next major jump in revenue is not expected until 2015 when the 280MW Olkaria projects are commissioned. There will be a small increase in revenue in 2014 when Muhoroni Thermal (80MW) is commissioned.
GOK owns 70% of the company, nssf 1.3%. Of the 204,000 shareholders, 200,000 are Wanjikus owning 100-10,000 shares.
In conclusion Kengen is a capital hungry company carrying out projects for vision 2030. The company, while growing its assets is not likely to increase its earnings meaningfully till 2015.
The current "Wanjiku heavy" shareholding structure only gets excited by a growth in earnings and dividend.
The company does not have institutions who might get excited by the growth in assets, hence the reason why the company is trading at P/B of 0.3.
GOK obviously does not care for dividends but i foresee the company continuing with the KShs 0.5 Div per year policy, whether the money is borrowed or not, to appease Wanjiku.
Meanwhile Kengen has loans of KShs 68B as at 2011 and has capital commitments of KShs 153B. I think time is right for GOK to do the second IPO, possibly followed by a rights issue.
I don't expect major upwards price movements, driven by fundamentals before year 2015. Prophetic indeed…Nabii Sparkly The harder you work, the luckier you get
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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@Sparkly; If you read their past financial year annual report the following are the projects planned to implement between 2015 and 2020 Olkaria I Unit 6 70MW Olkaria V 140MW Olkaria VI 140MW Olkaria VII 140MW Olkaria VIII 140MW Karura Hydro power 90MW Meru Wind 100MW Kilifi coal plant (600MW) and Natural gas plant (300MW) have been shelved. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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Major price movement will come once the rights issue is concluded. That is also when big institutional investors will troop or jump in Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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Ericsson wrote:@Sparkly; If you read their past financial year annual report the following are the projects planned to implement between 2015 and 2020 Olkaria I Unit 6 70MW Olkaria V 140MW Olkaria VI 140MW Olkaria VII 140MW Olkaria VIII 140MW Karura Hydro power 90MW Meru Wind 100MW Kilifi coal plant (600MW) and Natural gas plant (300MW) have been shelved.
100MW wind power will massive for an African country. Kudos if it can realized. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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sparkly wrote:Just looking at recent Kengen accounts and i have noted the following:
The Nyayo government totally ignored the energy sector and there were virtually no new projects brought online between 1988 and 2003. Between 2003 and 2011, Kengen installed 465MW, 200MW being stop-gap thermal projects.
Kengen is carrying out the 2008-2018 projects in two phases , Horizon 1 (700 MW) to be completed by 2015 and Horizon 2 (1,100 MW)to be completed by 2018.
Horizon one has delivered 270MW so far, 120MW thermal (Kipevu III) and 150MW from a combination of small green sources like wind, geothermal and hydro.
The flagship projects for Horizon 1, Olkaria IV and Olkaria I unit 4 and 5 are set to be commissioned in 2014 and will deliver 140MW each.
The main projects for Horizon 2 are: two further Olkaria projects (310MW), Kilifi coal plant (600MW) and a natural gas plant (300MW.
While the capital employed has balloned from KShs 95B to 150B in the last 5 years, the revenue averaged KShs 10.7B between 2007 and 2010. This only went up to 13B in 2011 when Kipevu III and the small green projects were commissioned.
The next major jump in revenue is not expected until 2015 when the 280MW Olkaria projects are commissioned. There will be a small increase in revenue in 2014 when Muhoroni Thermal (80MW) is commissioned.
GOK owns 70% of the company, nssf 1.3%. Of the 204,000 shareholders, 200,000 are Wanjikus owning 100-10,000 shares.
In conclusion Kengen is a capital hungry company carrying out projects for vision 2030. The company, while growing its assets is not likely to increase its earnings meaningfully till 2015.
The current "Wanjiku heavy" shareholding structure only gets excited by a growth in earnings and dividend.
The company does not have institutions who might get excited by the growth in assets, hence the reason why the company is trading at P/B of 0.3.
GOK obviously does not care for dividends but i foresee the company continuing with the KShs 0.5 Div per year policy, whether the money is borrowed or not, to appease Wanjiku.
Meanwhile Kengen has loans of KShs 68B as at 2011 and has capital commitments of KShs 153B. I think time is right for GOK to do the second IPO, possibly followed by a rights issue.
I don't expect major upwards price movements, driven by fundamentals before year 2015. Our amateur analysis in August 2012. Most have come to pass, except the second IPO which has been overtaken by a massive Rights. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/25/2010 Posts: 42 Location: Kenya
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sparkly wrote:sparkly wrote:Just looking at recent Kengen accounts and i have noted the following:
The Nyayo government totally ignored the energy sector and there were virtually no new projects brought online between 1988 and 2003. Between 2003 and 2011, Kengen installed 465MW, 200MW being stop-gap thermal projects.
Kengen is carrying out the 2008-2018 projects in two phases , Horizon 1 (700 MW) to be completed by 2015 and Horizon 2 (1,100 MW)to be completed by 2018.
Horizon one has delivered 270MW so far, 120MW thermal (Kipevu III) and 150MW from a combination of small green sources like wind, geothermal and hydro.
The flagship projects for Horizon 1, Olkaria IV and Olkaria I unit 4 and 5 are set to be commissioned in 2014 and will deliver 140MW each.
The main projects for Horizon 2 are: two further Olkaria projects (310MW), Kilifi coal plant (600MW) and a natural gas plant (300MW.
While the capital employed has balloned from KShs 95B to 150B in the last 5 years, the revenue averaged KShs 10.7B between 2007 and 2010. This only went up to 13B in 2011 when Kipevu III and the small green projects were commissioned.
The next major jump in revenue is not expected until 2015 when the 280MW Olkaria projects are commissioned. There will be a small increase in revenue in 2014 when Muhoroni Thermal (80MW) is commissioned.
GOK owns 70% of the company, nssf 1.3%. Of the 204,000 shareholders, 200,000 are Wanjikus owning 100-10,000 shares.
In conclusion Kengen is a capital hungry company carrying out projects for vision 2030. The company, while growing its assets is not likely to increase its earnings meaningfully till 2015.
The current "Wanjiku heavy" shareholding structure only gets excited by a growth in earnings and dividend.
The company does not have institutions who might get excited by the growth in assets, hence the reason why the company is trading at P/B of 0.3.
GOK obviously does not care for dividends but i foresee the company continuing with the KShs 0.5 Div per year policy, whether the money is borrowed or not, to appease Wanjiku.
Meanwhile Kengen has loans of KShs 68B as at 2011 and has capital commitments of KShs 153B. I think time is right for GOK to do the second IPO, possibly followed by a rights issue.
I don't expect major upwards price movements, driven by fundamentals before year 2015. Our amateur analysis in August 2012. Most have come to pass, except the second IPO which has been overtaken by a massive Rights. Good call elder.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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When the dust settles on this Kengen Rights issue , I predict that institutional investors will be holding close to 20%. The rights will be oversubscribed. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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That's very true sparkly. Retail investors will edge out themselves. Institutional investors like the likes of NSSF,pension schemes,insurance companies Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Ericsson wrote:That's very true sparkly. Retail investors will edge out themselves. Institutional investors like the likes of NSSF,pension schemes,insurance companies NSSF sold their 1.3% shareholding Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,684 Location: NAIROBI
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@Sparkly Was giving an example NSSF still have a 0.4% stake in KENGEN. Anyway let's wait to see the shareholder register in November Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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