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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/13/2009 Posts: 1,950 Location: in kenya
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As much as I pity TNA supporters the fact is our politics are never issue based bcoz if they were, all those supporters wuld have realise Uhuru has never done anything since he became a minister. '......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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TAZ wrote:madollar wrote:uhuru is day dreaming if he think will be the 4th president of kenya with the new katiba it will be a miracle for a kyuk to be a president ever again as he will always make it to the run off then all other communities will be uniting for the other candidate  You have a problem! Ditto! I thought @madollar was a UK supporter...what has changed?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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selah wrote:As much as I pity TNA supporters the fact is our politics are never issue based bcoz if they were, all those supporters wuld have realise Uhuru has never done anything since he became a minister. Don't you think you are exaggerating too much, yes he has his shortcomings - but he sure has done some thing since becoming a minister.
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/26/2008 Posts: 319
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@nakujua, story ya passats tafadhali usiilete hapa. The limos are back in business anyway!! But I like your signature line.....it applies to salos only, but in politics, Kenyans WILL get what they deserve!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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selah wrote:As much as I pity TNA supporters the fact is our politics are never issue based bcoz if they were, all those supporters wuld have realise Uhuru has never done anything since he became a minister. First and foremost, we don't need any pity. Well I agree with you that Kenyan politics has never been issued based and I can bet you ALL politicians will all say the same things we want to hear. Thirdly, unless you come from Gatundu you have no factual basis to claim he has not done anything.From the way you put it, you seem not to have been around during budget days when he delivered budgets that to be fair were lauded for being impressive and development conscious by most observers. That tells you he was doing a good job in his ministry. Unless there are duties under his ministry at the time that he did not perform to your expectations you're much welcome to highlight them. Most commentators here are not coming out clearly to raise issues regarding his performance or otherwise. All am seeing here is the usual Kenyan type broadsides that are neither here nor there. Make no mistake If he is on the ballot paper I will vote for him. If he is not then too bad i will vote for someone else. One thing i know SITANG'OA RELI and life will go on!! “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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Atalaku wrote:Live on TV. Martin Luther King wannabes! #FAIL
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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Kratos wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:nostoppingthis wrote:What moral authority does UK have to talk about correcting historical injustices!!? SMH In the spirit of keeping it constructive, what are your thoughts on this? How does he lack the moral authority in the first place? Please provide factual evidence and not opinion. SMH the landless coast squatters dispossessed by hid dad is an easy example
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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Kratos wrote:selah wrote:As much as I pity TNA supporters the fact is our politics are never issue based bcoz if they were, all those supporters wuld have realise Uhuru has never done anything since he became a minister. First and foremost, we don't need any pity. Well I agree with you that Kenyan politics has never been issued based and I can bet you ALL politicians will all say the same things we want to hear. Thirdly, unless you come from Gatundu you have no factual basis to claim he has not done anything.From the way you put it, you seem not to have been around during budget days when he delivered budgets that to be fair were lauded for being impressive and development conscious by most observers. That tells you he was doing a good job in his ministry. Unless there are duties under his ministry at the time that he did not perform to your expectations you're much welcome to highlight them. Most commentators here are not coming out clearly to raise issues regarding his performance or otherwise. All am seeing here is the usual Kenyan type broadsides that are neither here nor there. Make no mistake If he is on the ballot paper I will vote for him. If he is not then too bad i will vote for someone else. One thing i know SITANG'OA RELI and life will go on!! budgets that exempted his mother's companies from paying tax and of course the infamous typing error
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/24/2011 Posts: 833
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2012 wrote:wilyum wrote:i admired the whole event setup,i wonder where the money to setup all that came from.
Are you serious? try the many scandals in the past 10 years, any one of them!!!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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should a son be condemned for the shortcomings of his father? then so many including kasin would never have amounted to much I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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pariah wrote:2012 wrote:wilyum wrote:i admired the whole event setup,i wonder where the money to setup all that came from.
Are you serious? try the many scandals in the past 10 years, any one of them!!!! This are the arguments am talking about that are neither here nor there just a bunch of rumour mongering. BE FACTUAL. WHICH SCANDALS? Also you could answer a few questions 1. Did the typing error cost Kenyan tax payers any money? 2. Is Uhuru the title deed owner for the land you claim to have been grabbed and do you have any evidence to prove the land was grabbed in the first place thereby causing kenyans to be landless. Lets have meaningful engagement sio panganga tuu tuwache siasa za 2007 “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2010 Posts: 2,221 Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
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madollar wrote:uhuru is day dreaming if he think will be the 4th president of kenya with the new katiba it will be a miracle for a kyuk to be a president ever again as he will always make it to the run off then all other communities will be uniting for the other candidate But the more they afflicted them, the more they multiplied and grew! For the haters, sio mimi nimeandika hivyo, just seen it hapo Exodus 1:12 @SufficientlyP
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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I still feel Uhuru was better off with KANU. The grand old party would have been easier to relaunch. It has wider national network than this TNA thing. He should have tried to mend fences with Salat & Co instead of running away. This could be the end of KANU.  He deserted it with his rise in popularity instead of building it. This creation of new election vehicles every election period leaves me dizzy. To his credit, RAO seems to have matured from this nonsense as he has stuck to chungwa. Not so for his key opponents! Now to the sickening argument that a man will become as his father was and is guilty of his father's misdeeds. History is replete with cases of biological and political sons who went against their father's modus operandi. A good start for this study would be the Bible in the books of 1 & 2 Kings and 1 & 2 Chronicles. Thus I do not blame UK for his father's sins. Neither do I credit him with his father's positives. He needs to make us know what he has done in his over 10 years of public life and service. That is what we all ought to judge him on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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digitek1 wrote:should a son be condemned for the shortcomings of his father? then so many including kasin would never have amounted to much even in Bible days it was u and ur family and goats and chicken and cows LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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Kratos wrote:selah wrote:As much as I pity TNA supporters the fact is our politics are never issue based bcoz if they were, all those supporters wuld have realise Uhuru has never done anything since he became a minister. First and foremost, we don't need any pity. Well I agree with you that Kenyan politics has never been issued based and I can bet you ALL politicians will all say the same things we want to hear. Thirdly, unless you come from Gatundu you have no factual basis to claim he has not done anything.From the way you put it, you seem not to have been around during budget days when he delivered budgets that to be fair were lauded for being impressive and development conscious by most observers. That tells you he was doing a good job in his ministry. Unless there are duties under his ministry at the time that he did not perform to your expectations you're much welcome to highlight them. Most commentators here are not coming out clearly to raise issues regarding his performance or otherwise. All am seeing here is the usual Kenyan type broadsides that are neither here nor there. Make no mistake If he is on the ballot paper I will vote for him. If he is not then too bad i will vote for someone else. One thing i know SITANG'OA RELI and life will go on!! Did he make a great budget speech and not implement? @Kratos, you keep throwing around, "let's have factual discussions blah blah blah..and provide evidence...", why don't you provide evidence to counter the allegations made by @Pariah...it works both ways you know....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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kyt wrote:digitek1 wrote:should a son be condemned for the shortcomings of his father? then so many including kasin would never have amounted to much even in Bible days it was u and ur family and goats and chicken and cows Read Ezekiel 18 brother!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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nostoppingthis wrote:Kratos wrote:selah wrote:As much as I pity TNA supporters the fact is our politics are never issue based bcoz if they were, all those supporters wuld have realise Uhuru has never done anything since he became a minister. First and foremost, we don't need any pity. Well I agree with you that Kenyan politics has never been issued based and I can bet you ALL politicians will all say the same things we want to hear. Thirdly, unless you come from Gatundu you have no factual basis to claim he has not done anything.From the way you put it, you seem not to have been around during budget days when he delivered budgets that to be fair were lauded for being impressive and development conscious by most observers. That tells you he was doing a good job in his ministry. Unless there are duties under his ministry at the time that he did not perform to your expectations you're much welcome to highlight them. Most commentators here are not coming out clearly to raise issues regarding his performance or otherwise. All am seeing here is the usual Kenyan type broadsides that are neither here nor there. Make no mistake If he is on the ballot paper I will vote for him. If he is not then too bad i will vote for someone else. One thing i know SITANG'OA RELI and life will go on!! Did he make a great budget speech and not implement? @Kratos, you keep throwing around, "let's have factual discussions blah blah blah..and provide evidence...", why don't you provide evidence to counter the allegations made by @Pariah... it works both ways you know.... Well, I think the one who started the allegations should provide some evidence. Even the police have to produce evidence if they allege you committed a crime.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Sigiriri wrote:@nakujua, story ya passats tafadhali usiilete hapa. The limos are back in business anyway!! But I like your signature line.....it applies to salos only, but in politics, Kenyans WILL get what they deserve!! Well my signature line applies to all aspects of life, even political. Kenyans will negotiate with the politicians come election period, we will demand some stuff and they will promise some stuff. The poor Kenyans deserve a better life, the sick deserve medical care, the unschooled deserve education, but they will not get that only what they negotiate for. Well since you brought up the passat story, you have to agree that it was a good move attempting to cut down some spending - if the implementation has been messed, that is not UK's fault, just like the traffic rules. Give him credit where its due and blame him where it applies.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:Sigiriri wrote:@nakujua, story ya passats tafadhali usiilete hapa. The limos are back in business anyway!! But I like your signature line.....it applies to salos only, but in politics, Kenyans WILL get what they deserve!! Well my signature line applies to all aspects of life, even political. Kenyans will negotiate with the politicians come election period, we will demand some stuff and they will promise some stuff. The poor Kenyans deserve a better life, the sick deserve medical care, the unschooled deserve education, but they will not get that only what they negotiate for. Well since you brought up the passat story, you have to agree that it was a good move attempting to cut down some spending - if the implementation has been messed, that is not UK's fault, just like the traffic rules. Give him credit where its due and blame him where it applies. How do you become a manager of a company/country if you can not see through the successes you hope to achieve....?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/14/2007 Posts: 4,152
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nostoppingthis wrote:nakujua wrote:Sigiriri wrote:@nakujua, story ya passats tafadhali usiilete hapa. The limos are back in business anyway!! But I like your signature line.....it applies to salos only, but in politics, Kenyans WILL get what they deserve!! Well my signature line applies to all aspects of life, even political. Kenyans will negotiate with the politicians come election period, we will demand some stuff and they will promise some stuff. The poor Kenyans deserve a better life, the sick deserve medical care, the unschooled deserve education, but they will not get that only what they negotiate for. Well since you brought up the passat story, you have to agree that it was a good move attempting to cut down some spending - if the implementation has been messed, that is not UK's fault, just like the traffic rules. Give him credit where its due and blame him where it applies. How do you become a manager of a company/country if you can not see through the successes you hope to achieve....? So this only applies to UK?
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