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Should bank lending rates be regulated?
chiaroscuro
#21 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:29:30 PM
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2012 wrote:
I think they should.
I've always wondered why banks don't put their lending rates on their websites while they have the most current forex exchange rates. Neither do they put the interest to be earned on savings or fixed depo accounts.
Why do they try to hide this info? Is it because it's not good?

I understand why it might not be a good idea but what is? The fuel regulation seems to be working.


I guess it's for the same reason that traders in Kenya's "Exhibition Stalls" also don't put price tags on their products - a very annoying habit!

Nevertheless; your blanket statement is not accurate. Have a look at this website of a Kenya Bank: http://www.imbank.com/KE...r.asp?cat=interestrates

Proves you wrong, doesn't it?

Also; just look at the rate for 50k kept for one month - 14%!!!

T-Bills are at 17.5% http://www.centralbank.g...bills/manualresults.aspx
chiaroscuro
#22 Posted : Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:36:10 PM
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VituVingiSana
#23 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:47:45 AM
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the deal wrote:

T-bills and bonds have tumbled to 16-17% have banks reduced lending rates...ofcourse there is every incentive to lend to a farmer at 19% than to put money in a t-bill at 17%...

SMH. Read what @guru said.

For an extra 2% [with all the risks associated with drought, default, farmer's death, etc] why would the bank want to lend to the farmer?

If my bank [I as a major shareholder] lent to a farmer for 2% more than T-Bills [assuming the other income from the farmer is nominal] I would fire the directors! The risk is too high.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#24 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:51:24 AM
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[quote=chiaroscuro]
Nevertheless; your blanket statement is not accurate. Have a look at this website of a Kenya Bank: http://www.imbank.com/KE...r.asp?cat=interestrates

Proves you wrong, doesn't it?

Also; just look at the rate for 50k kept for one month - 14%!!!

T-Bills are at 17.5% http://www.centralbank.g...ills/manualresults.aspx[/quote]
Thanks for the link. Unlike many others, it seems I&M Bank is being pro-active!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#25 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:55:36 AM
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As a depositor why would you place a single penny with Equity Bank vs I&M Bank!

Compare and cry!

http://www.equitybank.co...escharges.php?subcat=20

http://www.imbank.com/KE...r.asp?cat=interestrates

Courtesy of @chiaroscuro
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Cde Monomotapa
#26 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 7:56:13 AM
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NB: The ease of attracting deposits also plays a part on the annual rate of return on deposits.
GGK
#27 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:28:37 AM
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IMHO, the current interest rates regime should not be interfered with. With inflation at the rate at 16.7% [Feb 2012] and CBR at 18%, I don't see what Kenyans want a sane bank to charge its borrowers.

OK 30% may be on the higher side, but given the risk its is not an "immoral" proposition. My argument has always been... there should be sector specific incentives [probably discounted] that insulates production [or growth] driven borrowings from interest rates fluctuations.

For the rest of Kenyans who borrow from banks to import toys & clothing, banks should charge even more.

BTW, who said banks were making abnormal profits? W.r.t investment, and compared to other industries there is no iota of truth in this. May be they are not as efficient... but that's an argument for another day
"..I am because we are. "― Ubuntu, Umtu,
Thiong'o
#28 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:45:32 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
As a depositor why would you place a single penny with Equity Bank vs I&M Bank!

Compare and cry!

http://www.equitybank.co...escharges.php?subcat=20

http://www.imbank.com/KE...r.asp?cat=interestrates

Courtesy of @chiaroscuro


Sad
From the banks’ fixed deposit bands/range, the qualifying amount is 50k. This is the same requirement for investing in TB with a shorter tenor and better rates.
Today’s results:
91 day is 17.006%
182 day is 17.726%
mwekez@ji
#29 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:12:37 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Some times I think that those who advocate for controlling of bank interest rates have probably never borrowed from a bank. Reason: why would anyone in their right mind borrow at 25% when the major banks are lending at around 15%?

Proof: Last month a neighbour needed to buy a car; she walked into Equity and enquired. They said car loans are at 14.5%. She signed the papers and three weeks later she had the car.

So, I ask: where are these banks that are charging 25%? HAKUNA KITU KAMA HIYO!!DISCLAIMER: I am not an employee of EQUITY, but I am a shareholder.


14.5% flat rate is equivalent to 25.77% Reducing balance rate.

Equity knows how to sell to members smile
2012
#30 Posted : Thursday, March 22, 2012 9:56:52 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
As a depositor why would you place a single penny with Equity Bank vs I&M Bank!

Compare and cry!

http://www.equitybank.co...escharges.php?subcat=20

http://www.imbank.com/KE...r.asp?cat=interestrates

Courtesy of @chiaroscuro




I think Equity rides on it's 'old hype' of being for Kenyans but the more I look at it the more I think they are exploiting that hype and people need to wisen' up.

BBI will solve it
:)
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