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President Jomo Kenyatta was born in Ukambani!
Lolest!
#21 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 12:25:32 PM
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majimaji wrote:

The Kikuyu is an amalgamation of many tribes eg. the extinct: the Ngumba, the Athi, the Dorobo etc that were basically hunter-gatherer communities. Others include the Maa speaking people, tharaka, mbeere, chuka, embu, kamba.
Kikuyu is a language, not DNA.


You mean Gumba?smile

There was an original Kikuyu population but guess this was diluted by the expansion of the tribe and search for more land.

The Gikuyu migrated southwards only to find the Dorobo occupying most of what is now Kiambu county. They tricked them out of their land and also assimilated some of them. By the time the mzungu came there were still Dorobo populations in the forests but they were fully assimilated into the Kikuyu population by the end of the colonial period.

I do not think this overlap is only found among the Kikuyus as the same is there among the Luo/ Luhya, Luhya/Kalenjin, Kisii/Luhya etc.

BTW talking about the Kisiis there is this theory by historians linking them to the Mt Kenya tribes esp the Meru. They argue that the Gusii found fertile land and settled in the western part of Kenya as their brothers moved on. Interesting to ote that some Mt. Kenya names are found in Gusiiland with the slight variation of an 'o' instead of 'U' eg Moturi, Mogambi, Moraro.

So here we are, not so sure of our tribes. You could be insulting yourself when you insult another tribe!
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nostoppingthis
#22 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 12:30:36 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
majimaji wrote:

The Kikuyu is an amalgamation of many tribes eg. the extinct: the Ngumba, the Athi, the Dorobo etc that were basically hunter-gatherer communities. Others include the Maa speaking people, tharaka, mbeere, chuka, embu, kamba.
Kikuyu is a language, not DNA.


You mean Gumba?smile

There was an original Kikuyu population but guess this was diluted by the expansion of the tribe and search for more land.

The Gikuyu migrated southwards only to find the Dorobo occupying most of what is now Kiambu county. They tricked them out of their land and also assimilated some of them. By the time the mzungu came there were still Dorobo populations in the forests but they were fully assimilated into the Kikuyu population by the end of the colonial period.

I do not think this overlap is only found among the Kikuyus as the same is there among the Luo/ Luhya, Luhya/Kalenjin, Kisii/Luhya etc.

BTW talking about the Kisiis there is this theory by historians linking them to the Mt Kenya tribes esp the Meru. They argue that the Gusii found fertile land and settled in the western part of Kenya as their brothers moved on. Interesting to ote that some Mt. Kenya names are found in Gusiiland with the slight variation of an 'o' instead of 'U' eg Moturi, Mogambi, Moraro.


So here we are, not so sure of our tribes. You could be insulting yourself when you insult another tribe!


@Lolest, I thought the kisii were originally fishermen until the luo community forced them up the hills and that is how they became farmers?
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#23 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 12:30:40 PM
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Many, many theories!

Reminds me of a certain guy from coast telling M 0 1 that he came from Sudan and should go back!.

Cultural diversity should be a tool for peaceful co-existence. Kenyan tribe- one and same, difference same.
Lolest!
#24 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 12:47:25 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:


@Lolest, I thought the kisii were originally fishermen until the luo community forced them up the hills and that is how they became farmers?

not heard of this one but this theory by Prof William Ochieng' makes sense to me. There are lots of common words between Kisii and central Kenya communities. There is less similarity between them and the Western Bantus.
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#25 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 12:57:50 PM
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I once met a Brazilian: a mix of japanese, mzungu and her great great great grannie was a Bantu woman slave from maybe South West Africa.
One question from her that I could not answer: why did Africans sell Africans into slavery?
Lolest!
#26 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 1:01:47 PM
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majimaji wrote:

I once met a Brazilian: a mix of japanese, mzungu and her great great great grannie was a Bantu woman slave from maybe South West Africa.
One question from her that I could not answer: why did Africans sell Africans into slavery?


Yes. Very shameful and regrettable. We can blame the whites but they did not force Africans to raid villages to abduct fellow blacks.

GREED. PURE GREED. We are still doing it today but in other forms.
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2012
#27 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 2:11:45 PM
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Finally, consolation for Kaos because I can't see a kao being president in my lifetime or the next.

But that said, there's no way Kenyatta was a Kao, his behaviors were kyuk to the bone. No amount teaching could achieve that.

BBI will solve it
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wairegi
#28 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 6:14:26 PM
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And while at it. i had a lecturer who used to tells that moses married a LUO. Consult google and you will find that moses married an ethiopian.
simonkabz
#29 Posted : Friday, October 21, 2011 8:12:16 PM
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In the DRC, there are native Luos n Kikuyus. The most puzzling are the kyuks, they are extremely lazy! Probably explains why they were left behind lol!
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
callaspade
#30 Posted : Saturday, October 22, 2011 8:51:33 AM
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2012 wrote:
Finally, consolation for Kaos because I can't see a kao being president in my lifetime or the next.

But that said, there's no way Kenyatta was a Kao, his behaviors were kyuk to the bone. No amount teaching could achieve that.



....how does it help you whether a kao or maasai becomes president.......get a head cleaner and move on.
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