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Njung'e
#21 Posted : Friday, December 17, 2010 11:14:48 AM
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Arguing the cases out here makes splitting hair unless the judges are right here.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Njung'e
#22 Posted : Friday, December 17, 2010 11:15:53 AM
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Arguing the cases out here is splitting hair unless the judges are right here.....wacheni kelele and let the suspects go in silence!.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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drake
#23 Posted : Friday, December 17, 2010 2:55:18 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Forget the politics, forget your feelings about who you think is guilty or not. Look at the merits of this case from the eyes of a judge sitting in the Hague and who does not know whether Kenya is in Nairobi or Nairobi is in Kenya, does not know who ODM or PNU are and has never heard of Ruto, Uhuru, Muthaura, Sang, Kosgey or Ali and you will agree that the case this Moreno fellow has presented is manifest nonsense.

The incompetence exhibited here by this individual is shocking to say the least. I had my doubts about him from the beginning when he could not express himself clearly in English but I gave him the benefit of the doubt thinking that maybe he thought more clearly in his native Spanish but alas the dumbness in him is real. I am no Lawyer but I remember having discussions with Law students and even an average 2nd year Law Student at Parklands will tell you that this:

http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc985613.pdf
http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc985621.pdf

is rubbish. This kind of presentation would not pass a 2nd year Law exam leave alone be fit for presentation to an international court. This man is a disgrace to the ICC. He would not light a candle to such prosecutors as Carla Del Ponte of the United Nations Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia and Rwanda. If the judges accept this and issue summons it will just confirm to my mind that this ICC thing is just a circus because from a serious judicial process it is embarassingly substandard.




The lady doth protest too much, methinks;

This is the "Public Redacted Version of Document ICC‐01/09‐30‐Conf‐Exp"

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the sage
#24 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 3:34:08 PM
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drake wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
Forget the politics, forget your feelings about who you think is guilty or not. Look at the merits of this case from the eyes of a judge sitting in the Hague and who does not know whether Kenya is in Nairobi or Nairobi is in Kenya, does not know who ODM or PNU are and has never heard of Ruto, Uhuru, Muthaura, Sang, Kosgey or Ali and you will agree that the case this Moreno fellow has presented is manifest nonsense.

The incompetence exhibited here by this individual is shocking to say the least. I had my doubts about him from the beginning when he could not express himself clearly in English but I gave him the benefit of the doubt thinking that maybe he thought more clearly in his native Spanish but alas the dumbness in him is real. I am no Lawyer but I remember having discussions with Law students and even an average 2nd year Law Student at Parklands will tell you that this:

http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc985613.pdf
http://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc985621.pdf

is rubbish. This kind of presentation would not pass a 2nd year Law exam leave alone be fit for presentation to an international court. This man is a disgrace to the ICC. He would not light a candle to such prosecutors as Carla Del Ponte of the United Nations Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia and Rwanda. If the judges accept this and issue summons it will just confirm to my mind that this ICC thing is just a circus because from a serious judicial process it is embarassingly substandard.




The lady doth protest too much, methinks;

This is the "Public Redacted Version of Document ICC‐01/09‐30‐Conf‐Exp"

*
re·dact Verb /riˈdakt/ o verb:

redacting present participle;

redacts 3rd person singular present;

redacted past tense;

redacted past participle

1. Edit (text) for publication

2. Censor or obscure (part of a text) for legal or security purposes



Let's wait and see, no need to be misguided by emotions. Personally, I think he is what this swamp of corruption called Kenya needs.
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Much Know
#25 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 4:49:41 PM
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Kalenjin PNU supporters were killed, Kalenjins who tried to help Kikuyus were killed, where does that leave the argument that PNU/ODM be replaced with Kikuyu/Kalenjin? I think Ocampo has thought this through ODM/PNU is more indicative of the scenario, tribe would cause too many distortions.
Ras Kienyeji Man
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thuks
#26 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 9:27:19 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Arguing the cases out here is splitting hair unless the judges are right here.....wacheni kelele and let the suspects go in silence!.


HOT AIR!
I care!
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alma
#27 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 9:59:20 PM
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@Njunge, Kweli kabisa

I wonder if attacking a prosecutor is a valid legal maneuver that 2nd year students at parklands are taught.

This is even funnier than me being asked to raise funds for these people. HA!
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Impunity
#28 Posted : Monday, December 20, 2010 10:14:41 PM
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Put your foot in the suspect's shoes please!
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Tokyo
#29 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 4:15:35 AM
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Sad Kenya is a failed state.
work to prosper
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newfarer
#30 Posted : Tuesday, December 21, 2010 8:56:50 AM
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Everyone now agrees with me , Ocampo is the best thing to happen in Kenya.See the panic among the top thieves, murderers, arsonists and rapists.I watch my TV screen and have a feeling that we have the wrong guests at Kamiti Maximum Prison.

Talk of vomiting to our shoes .

MY ANGER LEVEL IS INCREASING.

punda amecheka
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