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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:I have always held that those who think @alphdoti is level headed do not know what they talk about.
From the fellow who tells us that we must not make assumptions/conspiracies, he has turned around and given us 1 million tribal conspiracies!!
AlphDoti wrote:
You see all these attacks at Likoni and Eastleigh restaurant were already planned by the garment. So it was just convenience to prepare way in making everybody hate Muslims, so that when you kill and attack the with impunity, nobody will raise a finger. It was preparing a way for killing of Makaburi and attack at Eastleigh. Now we know it is not a Muslim who shot people at Likoni, they are still looking for him. We don't know who killed Makaburi, they are still looking for him.
THIS IS THE GRAND PLAN OF THE KYUKS, BECAUSE SOMALIS HAVE PROVEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN BUSINESS, UNTIL THEY ARE EVEN REACHING CBD. SORRY GUYS BUT IT IS THE REALITY.
So, it is wrong for Christians and Atheists to generalise on Muslims but it is perfectly OK for an Islamic Preacher to generalise and spread hate against Kikuyus
I think we were too harsh on @mawinder when he called this fellow alphashabaab. He probably was right
It's sad when @AlphDoti resorts to arguments such as the above. Now and then one gets the feeling that he isn't after the truth as such, but after some convinient reason to keep the anti Muslim, anti Christian, anti Kikuyu, anti Western tensions alive. The same things he accuses others of doing.
So if humanity is so incapable of 'disinterested' action, why shouldn't everyone grab a machete and embrace genocide and plunder like in CAR? http://m.aljazeera.com/story/201441213742873612
Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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I said it...this guy is driven by the great hatred he has. Now he has a specific group. KIKUYUs. mmmmmmm...and I should sit back and believe in the bla bla blas poured here.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/9/2009 Posts: 311
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kenya iko mahali hapa chini
At under 2% of population, members are a peace-loving minority and not a threat to other citizens.
United States -- 0.6%
Australia -- 1.5%
Canada -- 1.9%
China -- 1.8%
Italy -- 1.5%
Norway -- 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, proselytize from other ethnic minorities, disaffected groups, marginalize areas often with major recruiting from jails, street gangs or slums.
Denmark -- 2%
Germany -- 3.7%
United Kingdom -- 2.7%
Spain -- 4%
Thailand -- 4.6%
At 5%, inordinate influence in proportion to percentage of population. For example, push for the introduction of kadhi courts, push for halal food, increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves with boycott threats for failure to comply.
France -- 8%
Philippines -- 5%
Sweden -- 5%
Switzerland -- 4.3%
The Netherlands -- 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- 5.8%
At 10%, start to advocate for some Sharia law within some zones, increase lawlessness as means of complaint. See Paris car-burnings. Actions offending the faith result in uprisings and threats e.g. certain cartoons and films. 'Moderates' call violence the action of radical few but avoid directly or specifically condemning extremists since they secretly acknowledge them as their brothers in the faith. 'Moderates' protest state action on extremists.
Guyana -- 10%
India -- 13.4%
Israel -- 16%
Kenya -- 10%
Russia -- 15%
At 20%, hair-trigger rioting, militia formation, sporadic killings, and attacks on Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist places of worship. At 30%, nations experience secession threats, insurgencies, massacres, terror attacks or militia warfare. Drive for Sharia law zones continues.
Ethiopia -- 32.8%
Nigeria -- 45%
Bosnia -- 40%
Chad -- 53.1%
Lebanon -- 59.7%
At 60%, nations experience persecution of non-believers of other religions (including non-conformist Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing, push for nationwide Sharia Law and ***ya, the tax placed on infidels.
Albania -- 70%
Malaysia -- 60.4%
Qatar -- 77.5%
Former Sudan -- 70%
At 80%, intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing as nations oppress the infidels.
Bangladesh -- 83%
Egypt -- 90%
Gaza -- 98.7%
Indonesia -- 86.1%
Iran -- 98%
Iraq -- 97%
Jordan -- 92%
Morocco -- 98.7%
Pakistan -- 97%
Palestine -- 99%
Syria -- 90%
Tajikistan -- 90%
Turkey -- 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- 96%
At 100%, everybody is converted and lives under Sharia Law. But radicals intimidate, oppress or kill moderates. Sunni versus Shia conflicts.
Afghanistan -- 100%
Saudi Arabia -- 100%
Somalia -- 100%
Yemen -- 100%
Bahrain -- 100% Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:My friend, when the gov't was routing out the mungiki, you didn't hear any Kikuyu screaming ohh Jesu nimaratunina....In fact, we supported it.
Since when did two wrongs make a right??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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guru267 wrote:alma wrote:My friend, when the gov't was routing out the mungiki, you didn't hear any Kikuyu screaming ohh Jesu nimaratunina....In fact, we supported it.
Since when did two wrongs make a right??
You are exactly right. You won't see me soon supporting extra judicial killings.
But at the same time, you won't see me supporting a mungiki blatantly and blaming religion for persecution.
The gov't may be wrong in how it works....but it is people like Alphdoti who make you wonder, exactly how deeply rooted is this issue of terrorism?
Its like when you have hair lice. You may love your hair even the pubic hair. but you know after sometime you really have to remove ALL the hair.
If Alphdoti has trained 50 people into Islam and the quotes he's made above, then I would support his being investigated.
I wonder if he says this in a public forum, what does he tell his 50 converts in secrecy?
And that is NOT persecuting Islam. That is investigating someone who seems to have a chip in his shoulder. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/9/2009 Posts: 311
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alphdoti wacha ufala. if this were about money i would expect kikuyus to go for the more politically vulnerable but far richer muhindis. tupigane na wagaidi. Katika Jangwa la Jangili ndipo Pwagu hupata Pwaguzi.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:Despite the claims of truth and righteousness Muslims and Christians alike fail to offer humanity any reasonable hope for peace and excellence.
That is why all three religions agree that it is only the Messiah who can provide that peace and excellence...
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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alma wrote:guru267 wrote:alma wrote:My friend, when the gov't was routing out the mungiki, you didn't hear any Kikuyu screaming ohh Jesu nimaratunina....In fact, we supported it.
Since when did two wrongs make a right??
You are exactly right. You won't see me soon supporting extra judicial killings.
But at the same time, you won't see me supporting a mungiki blatantly and blaming religion for persecution.
The gov't may be wrong in how it works....but it is people like Alphdoti who make you wonder, exactly how deeply rooted is this issue of terrorism?
Its like when you have hair lice. You may love your hair even the pubic hair. but you know after sometime you really have to remove ALL the hair.
If Alphdoti has trained 50 people into Islam and the quotes he's made above, then I would support his being investigated.
I wonder if he says this in a public forum, what does he tell his 50 converts in secrecy?
And that is NOT persecuting Islam. That is investigating someone who seems to have a chip in his shoulder.
I do not disagree that some of the terror threats have been staged! For what reason.. Who knows?? 
Alph has given one possibility
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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guru any sane person must question especially a gov't that says the mboys exchanged fire and people died.
But what Alphdoti is saying on the other hand is not questioning. He is saying authoritatively.
Then he says Kikuyus are doing this, so that they can remove muslims. He says ALL christians worship the wrong God. He says ALL christians are not clean.
That is a sign of a sick fellow and one of the signs of a terrorist.
That is stupidity.
He should have said, Mr. so and so is doing it.
But he's painted all the Kikuyus just as he hates all the muslims being painted. Infact, if you look at his statements on this forum, he's the one who paints ALL muslims in a certain way.
We are being persecuted is a statement made usually by someone who's a bit guilty.
I should know. I use it all the time when I'm caught looking at a womans behind. I have to tell my wife that ALL women are just jelous. Kumbe.... Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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AlphDoti wrote:Buster wrote:Yes over to you. I want to see you condemning such statement...
" ...if he had done it in Machakos there would be no problem here... they are ashaming religion"
I criticize Duale's saying that the person should have taken it somewhere else. This utterance is wrong. Whoever is bringing bombs should not take it anywhere in our country. I'm really sadden after this utterance. I pity him because now is dumping time after one year of being used.
" ...cannot allow their people to be victimized, neither will we"
You see, I don't know who the lone shooter at Likoni was, you don't who it was, the police "don't know" who it was... nobody knows who it was... but the Christians don't allow someone saying it might have been a Christian. The garment (who are Christians) neither allow to be victimized that they paid somebody to provoke the Christians.
So here Duale is correct. We don't want to be victimized.
So why is everybody victimizing the Muslims? I'm not saying there are no illegal immigrants who need to be taken back to refugee camps. No. I'm saying there has been discrimination in the way garment is carrying out the operation.
You see all these attacks at Likoni and Eastleigh restaurant were already planned by the garment. So it was just convenience to prepare way in making everybody hate Muslims, so that when you kill and attack the with impunity, nobody will raise a finger. It was preparing a way for killing of Makaburi and attack at Eastleigh. Now we know it is not a Muslim who shot people at Likoni, they are still looking for him. We don't know who killed Makaburi, they are still looking for him.
THIS IS THE GRAND PLAN OF THE KYUKS, BECAUSE SOMALIS HAVE PROVEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN BUSINESS, UNTIL THEY ARE EVEN REACHING CBD. SORRY GUYS BUT IT IS THE REALITY.
Now I see why Wazuans were up in arms against you, your true colors are finally coming out. You insist on Muslims being treated fairly, but are here preaching hate and prejudice against other groups. You have completely lost it. You start by pretending to criticize Duale, then end by agreeing with him. You then make allegations against the government with no tangible proof, then you claim that you know the Likoni shooter is not Muslim, yet he is still being looked for, so how do you know his religion if they haven't found him? Then you descend to complete savagery by tribalizing the issue. Islam is not painted in a bad light, it Muslims like you who give it a bad name. You need prayers!
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