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Kplc restructure plan out
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#271 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 1:01:23 PM
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Wiztec wrote:
May be i should have said pathetic loss for me, i made a rush buy at 27 yesterday well if i average with my existing shares its coming to 24. i would hav just been a little patient and bought the share today btw some people have purchased at 22.25, at such a price it beats the rights at 19.5. anyway i take heart that some people bought it at 30 oops

Not true!The lowest buy so far today is 22.50, and only a handful have traded at this price, less than 5,000 shares.
I am on bid at 20.25 and if i get them, i'll just close shop and go for christmas, 10% in my pocket!
But its really a tall order, even 22.50 is proving to be!
@SufficientlyP
2012
#272 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 2:58:39 PM
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It was obvious this was going to happen since the Govt. is not taking up it's rights the wise thing to do is to push down the current mkt price so the rights can be at a price of btwn 0.20/- to 0.50/-. If the mkt price over 25/- the rights would trade btwn 1/- and 2/-.

BBI will solve it
:)
Aguytrying
#273 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 3:52:38 PM
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This is getting more interesting as it unfolds. What i want to know now is how much the rights will be going for? nobody knows this yet. Either way anybody buying the share for less than 22.00 is getting a real discount. if the rights trade at level the 2012 is saying(1-2 bob), this will be epic.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
2012
#274 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 4:31:25 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
This is getting more interesting as it unfolds. What i want to know now is how much the rights will be going for? nobody knows this yet. Either way anybody buying the share for less than 22.00 is getting a real discount. if the rights trade at level the 2012 is saying(1-2 bob), this will be epic.


If the mkt rate will be @22/- and below then the right should not go for more than 50cts.

BBI will solve it
:)
Aguytrying
#275 Posted : Friday, November 26, 2010 4:45:04 PM
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2012 wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
This is getting more interesting as it unfolds. What i want to know now is how much the rights will be going for? nobody knows this yet. Either way anybody buying the share for less than 22.00 is getting a real discount. if the rights trade at level the 2012 is saying(1-2 bob), this will be epic.


If the mkt rate will be @22/- and below then the right should not go for more than 50cts.

I dont know if you're a prophet from God, but may it be so, amen.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
guru267
#276 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 8:42:51 AM
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This KPLC thing is simply crazy... the share is at 24 with a low of 22.5 traded.. (Are you aware that is 180bob pre split)

This helps me a whole lot because I can now get the rights at a very low premium off the market...

But I hope guys know the bounce back from these levels after the restructuring will be equally extraordinary so you're best bet is to start buying now like crazy...

Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Aguytrying
#277 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:46:29 AM
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guru267 wrote:
This KPLC thing is simply crazy... the share is at 24 with a low of 22.5 traded.. (Are you aware that is 180bob pre split)

This helps me a whole lot because I can now get the rights at a very low premium off the market...

But I hope guys know the bounce back from these levels after the restructuring will be equally extraordinary so you're best bet is to start buying now like crazy...



Yep. The time is nigh. can't wait for wed(1st). To pounce on those rights. If they are going to be low like ppl are saying here......i dont even know. Its gonna be legen......(wait for it)..dary.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
VituVingiSana
#278 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 9:51:55 AM
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Location: Nairobi
Forecast EPS for FY 2010-11 is 2.54 thus PER = 8. If the hydrology is good during 2011-12 then EPS for 2011-12 should be much better.
Comment: Moving away from hydropower [reduction of reliance on hydro + thermal] to geothermal is a long-term project.

There are some 'immediate' projects that will add to KPLC's profits within 12 months [FY 2011-12]. IRRs of 20%+
Comment: What were they waiting for? Banks would have lent for this!

200,000 customers to be recruited in 2010-11 though these are mostly low-middle income consumers. Many users on diesel-generators so potential customers like lodges, mining, etc.
Comment: Note there is SUPPRESSED demand i.e. KPLC can't supply the current needs thus brownouts + blackouts.

Construction remains 'booming' thus urban connections are doing OK as new shops, flats, malls, etc are connected. Connected to economic growth.
Comment: Sigh, true... I can't escape cranes & construction traffic in Nairobi!

Theft is a HUGE problem but KPLC is:
- installing 320,000 pre-paid meters. Mostly residential. Apparently, these are harder to tamper with.
- Less interaction of staff with consumers [staff 'misreading' meters] or making illegal connections.
- Huge improvements in cash flow as pre-paid model works better. Cash receipts easier to monitor.
- Step up mulika mwizi. New dry transformers. Security team.
- Ramp up fibre. Connect all major towns with fibre to monitor sub-stations. National Control Centre.
- GoK support vital. Cops cracking down on mungiki & friends.
- GoK banned copper exports thanks to KPLC lobbying. Fewer outlets for stolen copper.

Comment: Kenyans need to 'squeal' on these crooks. Education is important but I believe shooting a few crooks [public execution] is even better.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#279 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:11:13 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Projected EPS for FY 2010-11 is 2.54 thus PER = 8...
If the hydrology is good during 2011-12 then EPS for 2011-12 should be much better...

There are some 'immediate' projects that will add to KPLC's profits within 12 months [FY 2011-12]. IRRs of 20%+

200,000 customers to be recruited in 2010-11 though these are mostly low-middle income consumers. Note there is SUPPRESSED demand i.e. KPLC can't supply the current needs thus brownouts + blackouts.

Construction remains 'booming' thus urban connections are doing OK as new shops, flats, malls, etc are connected. Connected to economic growth.

Theft is a HUGE problem but KPLC is:
- installing 320,000 pre-paid meters. Mostly residential. Apparently, these are harder to tamper with.
- Less interaction of staff with consumers [staff 'misreading' meters] or making illegal connections.
- Huge improvements in cash flow as pre-paid model works better. Cash receipts easier to monitor.
- Step up mulika mwizi. New dry transformers. Security team.
- Ramp up fibre. Connect all major towns with fibre to monitor sub-stations. National Control Centre.



Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause

love this analysis.. since i keep away from bonds KPLC is like my 30 year bond yielding me no less than 6% per year
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
sheep
#280 Posted : Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:24:31 AM
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Posts: 781
I dont get the fascination guys get with corporate action like rights issue....a sort of its my duty to participate etc....I say sell in the excitement ie(at 240 pre-split) and buy when the excitement levels off...there is a very long historical evidence that this is the right way to act.
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
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