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AlphDoti wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These are the issues our leaders should be dealing with. Instead we finished one electoral circus and immediately started another. And now they are planning to fix the constitution so that a perennial loser can finally win and another one can rule for ever. I say a pox on the whole lot of them We deserve it. For being perennial tribal in our politics. Especially some of us who have never voted any other tribe since 1992! 1992 we voted Kibaki, 1997 we voted Kibaki, 2002 we voted Kibaki, 2007 we voted Kibaki, 2012 we voted Uhuru, and 2017 we voted Uhuru... all through 6 multiparty elections we voted our own. Shame on you all for leading in tribalism! Isn't democracy a free choice where one chooses who to vote for? "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Wakanyugi wrote:madhaquer wrote:Naskia hiyo daraja wakisii hawavuki. https://twitter.com/Ferd...tus/1216259533380771841
It is unfortunate that even this forum and debate dwells too much on the kikuyu nation and the assumption that Ruto needs it's entire support to win in 2020. Infact all he needs is to split that vote. He doesn't need to do that for much to happen, Kamwana is doing it himself already. A lot of people are playing checkers when the game long changed to chess. Here is a test: If Uhuru wanted to ensure Ruto became President after him he would: (a). Nominate him as his heir and order his Kikuyu people to vote for him (b). Virtually guarantee a protest vote for Ruto while at the same time scaring his tribesmen by waving the Raila bogeyman at them. Interesting.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Gathige wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These are the issues our leaders should be dealing with. Instead we finished one electoral circus and immediately started another. And now they are planning to fix the constitution so that a perennial loser can finally win and another one can rule for ever. I say a pox on the whole lot of them We deserve it. For being perennial tribal in our politics. Especially some of us who have never voted any other tribe since 1992! 1992 we voted Kibaki, 1997 we voted Kibaki, 2002 we voted Kibaki, 2007 we voted Kibaki, 2012 we voted Uhuru, and 2017 we voted Uhuru... all through 6 multiparty elections we voted our own. Shame on you all for leading in tribalism! Isn't democracy a free choice where one chooses who to vote for? I would have said something about tribalism by the poster but let it pass
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These are the issues our leaders should be dealing with. Instead we finished one electoral circus and immediately started another. And now they are planning to fix the constitution so that a perennial loser can finally win and another one can rule for ever. I say a pox on the whole lot of them We deserve it. For being perennial tribal in our politics. Especially some of us who have never voted any other tribe since 1992! 1992 we voted Kibaki, 1997 we voted Kibaki, 2002 we voted Kibaki, 2007 we voted Kibaki, 2012 we voted Uhuru, and 2017 we voted Uhuru... all through 6 multiparty elections we voted our own. Shame on you all for leading in tribalism! I think this 'tribal voting' accusation doesn't hold. Otherwise, if we all 'voted our own' no one could attain the constitutional threshold for presidency. For example, by tribe L not participating and voting for their own caused a handshake even when the 'handshaked' couldn't win by virtue of 'own tribe votes'...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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AlphDoti wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These are the issues our leaders should be dealing with. Instead we finished one electoral circus and immediately started another. And now they are planning to fix the constitution so that a perennial loser can finally win and another one can rule for ever. I say a pox on the whole lot of them We deserve it. For being perennial tribal in our politics. Especially some of us who have never voted any other tribe since 1992! 1992 we voted Kibaki, 1997 we voted Kibaki, 2002 we voted Kibaki, 2007 we voted Kibaki, 2012 we voted Uhuru, and 2017 we voted Uhuru... all through 6 multiparty elections we voted our own. Shame on you all for leading in tribalism! The 2002 vote was the least tribal. For once,we voted as Kenyans. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Lolest! wrote:Gathige wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These are the issues our leaders should be dealing with. Instead we finished one electoral circus and immediately started another. And now they are planning to fix the constitution so that a perennial loser can finally win and another one can rule for ever. I say a pox on the whole lot of them We deserve it. For being perennial tribal in our politics. Especially some of us who have never voted any other tribe since 1992! 1992 we voted Kibaki, 1997 we voted Kibaki, 2002 we voted Kibaki, 2007 we voted Kibaki, 2012 we voted Uhuru, and 2017 we voted Uhuru... all through 6 multiparty elections we voted our own. Shame on you all for leading in tribalism! Isn't democracy a free choice where one chooses who to vote for? I would have said something about tribalism by the poster but let it pass Usually the term tribalism in Kenya is a dog whistle. The crime only only applies if you are Kikuyu. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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24 Governors were yesterday bought with a plate of rice "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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I was against Uhuruto because I knew it would perpetrate impunity and lead to terrible economic consequences. I was right. Even Murchr has joined me. I am against Ruto coz it will be an extension of impunity and thus far tangatanga behavior is proving me right. I will be against BBI starting Monday morning at 10am if ODomos do not wash their hands off Babu Owino. Because I believe that they may even decide to shoot our children on TV and Laira will keep quiet about it. If they can shoot on CCTV they will shoot us in the streets and I am right. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Wakanyugi wrote:Lolest! wrote:Gathige wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:These are the issues our leaders should be dealing with. Instead we finished one electoral circus and immediately started another. And now they are planning to fix the constitution so that a perennial loser can finally win and another one can rule for ever. I say a pox on the whole lot of them We deserve it. For being perennial tribal in our politics. Especially some of us who have never voted any other tribe since 1992! 1992 we voted Kibaki, 1997 we voted Kibaki, 2002 we voted Kibaki, 2007 we voted Kibaki, 2012 we voted Uhuru, and 2017 we voted Uhuru... all through 6 multiparty elections we voted our own. Shame on you all for leading in tribalism! Isn't democracy a free choice where one chooses who to vote for? I would have said something about tribalism by the poster but let it pass Usually the term tribalism in Kenya is a dog whistle. The crime only only applies if you are Kikuyu. Sometime back, Philip Ochieng had an article with your exact sentiments
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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alma1 wrote:I was against Uhuruto because I knew it would perpetrate impunity and lead to terrible economic consequences. I was right. Even Murchr has joined me.
I am against Ruto coz it will be an extension of impunity and thus far tangatanga behavior is proving me right.
I will be against BBI starting Monday morning at 10am if ODomos do not wash their hands off Babu Owino.
Because I believe that they may even decide to shoot our children on TV and Laira will keep quiet about it.
If they can shoot on CCTV they will shoot us in the streets and I am right. Heheheh, Happy New Year @ALma. Hii sasa ni nye nye nye. What do you want ODM to do ? I don't think the issue is ODM, the issue is thriving in a rotten system that oppresses walala hoi and you know it. ODM doesn't need to do anything, courts need to do their job based on evidence presented. So taht whether ODM washed their hands or not, the law would take its course. See my point? What Kenya needs is equality before law, and respect for institutions (regardless of who is in power),not new laws or BBINonsense. So ODM doesn't need to shun Babu Owino so that your eyes can be opened. See, when Miguna Miguna was being kicked out of the country, the likes of Kuria were rejoicing, now they are also on receiving end of a government that has thrown everything through the window. The people who called themselves liberators are now supporting the quashing of dissenting voices/groups, because it serves their selfish interest - in the guise of uniting Kenya. Kenya is on a slippery slope. I am happy
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