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Uhuru versus Raila 2017
hardwood
#541 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:21:24 PM
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madollar wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
madollar wrote:
kingfisher wrote:
Where are the IEBC number we start crunching them in earnest?

Huko kwingine ni turnout huku ndio Kuna maneno .Who has the edge
IEBC Registered Voters
Nairobi
2,304,386
Kajiado
409,266
Narok
347,427
Trans Nzoia
339,832
Turkana
188,617
Mandera
168,478
Garissa
132,486
Wajir
155,916
Marsabit
143,541
Samburu
79,477
Isiolo
72,548


weka yote hapa. Unaogopa nani???

Hiyo post itakuwa mrefu sana
Should be Raila 42% =7,900,000 Uhuru 47%=8,930,000 Undecided 8%=1,500,000 as per that opinion poll

Kiambu
1,173,593
Nakuru
948,668
Meru
712,378
Murang’a
590,775
Nyeri
460,806
Uasin Gishu
451,485
Kericho
379,815
Kirinyaga
351,162
Nandi
349,340
Nyandaua
336,322
Bomet
325,606
Embu
315,668
Laikipia
239,497
Baringo
227,918
Tharaka Nithi
216,522
West Pokot
178,989
E Marakwet
178,975
Kisii
544,753
Nyamira
279,685
Kakamega
746,877
Machakos
627,168
Mombasa
596,485
Bungoma
559,897
Kisumu
548,868
Kilifi
510,484
Kitui
477,655
Homa Bay
476,150
Siaya
447,745
Makueni
421,180
Migori
388,967
Busia
347,911
Kwale
282,436
Vihiga
267,481
Taita Taveta
155,904
Tana River
118,189
Lamu
70,224


All this data is nonsense because it assumes that people vote based on their "home" which is wrong e.g. assuming that just because Tuju or MigunaX2 is from Nyanza he will vote for Baba. #TotalCrap
newfarer
#542 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:45:20 PM
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Much Know wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
gk wrote:
freiks wrote:
newfarer wrote:
this is madness

http://www.businessdaily...254-14u591rz/index.html

would like to hear how both Uhuru and rao will work towards reducing the national debt now that we are in it


This debt is below the 50% mark or there about of our GDP. You should start worrying when it gets to above 60%


Almost all the member countries of OECD have debt to GDP ratios above 80% with Japan topping a massive 250%, US 105%, Germany 82%. Even China is about 70% in the red.

Who is the lender if all the big boys have debt?d'oh! d'oh!

Thin air is the best lender, in peaceful knowledge based economies like US kitu 60% knowledge based, Japan 75% Knowledge based e.t.c can borrow from thin air very well, for poorer countries knowledge wise that are cash dependent, resource dependent like Kenya, Greece, e.t.c to repay, problems can arise, but overall Kenyas debts is way tooo small to worry about.


so mzungu colonialist world bank is wrong here http://www.nation.co.ke/...isk/996-3896296-13iilwv/
punda amecheka
murchr
#543 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 8:57:49 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Much Know wrote:
ZZE123 wrote:
gk wrote:
freiks wrote:
newfarer wrote:
this is madness

http://www.businessdaily...254-14u591rz/index.html

would like to hear how both Uhuru and rao will work towards reducing the national debt now that we are in it


This debt is below the 50% mark or there about of our GDP. You should start worrying when it gets to above 60%


Almost all the member countries of OECD have debt to GDP ratios above 80% with Japan topping a massive 250%, US 105%, Germany 82%. Even China is about 70% in the red.

Who is the lender if all the big boys have debt?d'oh! d'oh!

Thin air is the best lender, in peaceful knowledge based economies like US kitu 60% knowledge based, Japan 75% Knowledge based e.t.c can borrow from thin air very well, for poorer countries knowledge wise that are cash dependent, resource dependent like Kenya, Greece, e.t.c to repay, problems can arise, but overall Kenyas debts is way tooo small to worry about.


so mzungu colonialist world bank is wrong here http://www.nation.co.ke/...sk/996-3896296-13iilwv/


The world bank will always warn you esp if you aint borrowing them.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Realtreaty
#544 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:38:46 PM
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http://www.hivisasa.com/posts/1...b191?source=landing_page

These polls are a quick call to both to up the game. The assumption that Kalonzo and MaDVD with Wetabix votes sum up for Raila is a big Lie.
Kalonzo after accepting to be mounted on has no chance of following and his home area is a battle ground with Kambas ready to punish Melon for accepting a second failed marriage meaning Kambas have been turn second or third from stronger Luo hegemony. Kambas are crying for his blood...he cannot even manage Wavinya Ndeti nomination.
The poll sample is small and how they selected people to call is unknown.
The Game has just started and the Brown and Black horses are mark timing.
More evident results after first Presidential Debate.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
newfarer
#545 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:33:02 PM
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whoever wins let it be one round .runoff is a waste of time . already businesses are suffering from the uncertainty. can't imagine another 90 days wasted after 8/8
punda amecheka
newfarer
#546 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 10:35:31 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
http://www.hivisasa.com/posts/1...b191?source=landing_page

These polls are a quick call to both to up the game. The assumption that Kalonzo and MaDVD with Wetabix votes sum up for Raila is a big Lie.
Kalonzo after accepting to be mounted on has no chance of following and his home area is a battle ground with Kambas ready to punish Melon for accepting a second failed marriage meaning Kambas have been turn second or third from stronger Luo hegemony. Kambas are crying for his blood...he cannot even manage Wavinya Ndeti nomination.
The poll sample is small and how they selected people to call is unknown.
The Game has just started and the Brown and Black horses are mark timing.
More evident results after first Presidential Debate.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

very wrong especially on kalonzo. lower Eastern is facing west almost man to man they are happy with number 2 in NASA .just rebellious brothers to jubilee.their vote is protest against a feeling of being sidelined in 2013 where kalonzo was expecting presidency on a silver platter after the ICC duo are put in.this never happened.ask the honest few near you.wavinya will win not because Mutua is bad but because Mutua has failed to read the mood on the ground.
punda amecheka
tycho
#547 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:05:39 AM
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If Uhuru is the one giving the middle class and the government the courage to be lawless, then there should be a strong campaign to remove him from power.

I no longer have appetite for leaders who not only loot public coffers with impunity, but also go for the blood of the weak and poor without mercy and consideration.
harrydre
#548 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 3:20:34 AM
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Iganamagana wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
madollar wrote:
IPSOS polls show 47pc will vote for President Kenyatta-Ruto, 42pc for Raila-Kalonzo; 8pc undecided while 1pc won't vote



Divide the undecided into two equal portions and add to Uhuruto and Railakalonzo to get the winner.


Have you factored in the 1% NASWA will loose courtesy of the Rent harmonization and other foot in the mouth utterances. You can bank on the NASWA brigade to put their feet where their mouths are.


47% and the incumbent has not even started to campaign? Let's first launch that SGR Leo and squeeze D- balls kiasi. Hii kitu imeisha bwana
i.am.back!!!!
Realtreaty
#549 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:00:30 AM
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https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/...ion-sgr-means-to-kenyans

...and the mockers with their LOP will be put to shame.
They have never achieved anything and could make Kenya worse than South Sudan.
Realtreaty
#550 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 8:02:44 AM
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Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
The Money Sultan said was stolen is with people of Kenya...marupurupu ni profits ya wakenya...says China builder

http://www.businessdailyafrica....948638-nekxk5/index.html
kaka2za
#551 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:07:23 AM
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They will be no run off unless Abduba Dida gets more than 100,000 votes which wont happen.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
FRM2011
#552 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 9:38:21 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/...ion-sgr-means-to-kenyans

...and the mockers with their LOP will be put to shame.
They have never achieved anything and could make Kenya worse than South Sudan.


Is the SGR a great project - YES.
Is it a good (viable) investment for Kenya - YES before the vultures came in and inflated cost.

"The SGR will cut the journey between Nairobi and Mombasa to four and a half hours from 13 hours or more currently and reduce freight costs to 8 US cents (Sh8.14) per tonne per kilometre from the present average of 20 US cents (Sh20.37)."

The above statement is the govt's main argument for lowering the transport costs by 60%. The only problem is that its false.

Every year KTDA brings in between 30,000-50,000 tonnes of fertlizer. They usually invite truckers to bid. Last year, they were paying Kes.7/ton/KM. The 30,000 tons were ferried within one week.

Bottomline : Will SGR address existing capacity issues ? NO. Will it offer more competitive pricing for cargo owners ? NO, actually its more expensive than the current prices.
harrydre
#553 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:19:46 AM
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Now everyone wants credit for SGR including those who really worked hard to see the project fail! Bure kabisa. Kwendeni huko!
i.am.back!!!!
Njung'e
#554 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:31:10 AM
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FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=Realtreaty]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/...ion-sgr-means-to-kenyans

Bottomline : Will SGR address existing capacity issues ? NO. Will it offer more competitive pricing for cargo owners ? NO, actually its more expensive than the current prices.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You are still dancing yourself into lameness. There was Tusker Baridi, GeorgeSoros and Mcreggae before you. Go on son. Dance yourself some moresmile
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Iganamagana
#555 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:41:49 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=Realtreaty]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/...ion-sgr-means-to-kenyans

Bottomline : Will SGR address existing capacity issues ? NO. Will it offer more competitive pricing for cargo owners ? NO, actually its more expensive than the current prices.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly You are still dancing yourself into lameness. There was Tusker Baridi, GeorgeSoros and Mcreggae before you. Go on son. Dance yourself some moresmile


Huyu mjamaa alienda wapi? Baba needs his service now more than ever before. He was so passionate and seemed like an Orange house insider.
Njung'e
#556 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:45:59 AM
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Iganamagana wrote:
[quote=Njung'e][quote=FRM2011][quote=Realtreaty]https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/...ion-sgr-means-to-kenyans

Huyu mjamaa alienda wapi? Baba needs his service now more than ever before. He was so passionate and seemed like an Orange house insider.


OKOA Kenya architect. You know it didn't work but the guy made money from Baba and went underground. I think if Baba finds him, he would have the guy hanged by his ballssmile
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Jump-steady
#557 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:21:01 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
http://www.hivisasa.com/posts/1...b191?source=landing_page

These polls are a quick call to both to up the game. The assumption that Kalonzo and MaDVD with Wetabix votes sum up for Raila is a big Lie.
Kalonzo after accepting to be mounted on has no chance of following and his home area is a battle ground with Kambas ready to punish Melon for accepting a second failed marriage meaning Kambas have been turn second or third from stronger Luo hegemony. Kambas are crying for his blood...he cannot even manage Wavinya Ndeti nomination.
The poll sample is small and how they selected people to call is unknown.
The Game has just started and the Brown and Black horses are mark timing.
More evident results after first Presidential Debate.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
ZZE123
#558 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:26:33 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
http://www.hivisasa.com/posts/1...b191?source=landing_page

These polls are a quick call to both to up the game. The assumption that Kalonzo and MaDVD with Wetabix votes sum up for Raila is a big Lie.
Kalonzo after accepting to be mounted on has no chance of following and his home area is a battle ground with Kambas ready to punish Melon for accepting a second failed marriage meaning Kambas have been turn second or third from stronger Luo hegemony. Kambas are crying for his blood...he cannot even manage Wavinya Ndeti nomination.
The poll sample is small and how they selected people to call is unknown.
The Game has just started and the Brown and Black horses are mark timing.
More evident results after first Presidential Debate.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

ALL Kambas will vote NASA… Period!!!
The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
Jump-steady
#559 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:09:57 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2008
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ZZE123 wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
http://www.hivisasa.com/posts/1...b191?source=landing_page

These polls are a quick call to both to up the game. The assumption that Kalonzo and MaDVD with Wetabix votes sum up for Raila is a big Lie.
Kalonzo after accepting to be mounted on has no chance of following and his home area is a battle ground with Kambas ready to punish Melon for accepting a second failed marriage meaning Kambas have been turn second or third from stronger Luo hegemony. Kambas are crying for his blood...he cannot even manage Wavinya Ndeti nomination.
The poll sample is small and how they selected people to call is unknown.
The Game has just started and the Brown and Black horses are mark timing.
More evident results after first Presidential Debate.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

ALL Kambas will vote NASA… Period!!!


Sawa! 8th August is the msema kwelismile
Jump-steady
#560 Posted : Wednesday, May 31, 2017 2:12:58 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2008
Posts: 1,098
ZZE123 wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
http://www.hivisasa.com/posts/1...b191?source=landing_page

These polls are a quick call to both to up the game. The assumption that Kalonzo and MaDVD with Wetabix votes sum up for Raila is a big Lie.
Kalonzo after accepting to be mounted on has no chance of following and his home area is a battle ground with Kambas ready to punish Melon for accepting a second failed marriage meaning Kambas have been turn second or third from stronger Luo hegemony. Kambas are crying for his blood...he cannot even manage Wavinya Ndeti nomination.
The poll sample is small and how they selected people to call is unknown.
The Game has just started and the Brown and Black horses are mark timing.
More evident results after first Presidential Debate.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

ALL Kambas will vote NASA… Period!!!


Sawa! 8th August is the msema kwelismile
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