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KENOL-KOBIL 2014
Kausha
#271 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:56:03 PM
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Finance and back of the envelope computations tell me kk will make decent pat growth this half.
Othelo
#272 Posted : Thursday, August 14, 2014 6:58:53 PM
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Kausha wrote:
Finance and back of the envelope computations tell me kk will make decent pat growth this half.

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mlennyma
#273 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 2:18:48 PM
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Alot of hy releases and here nothing.
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murchr
#274 Posted : Friday, August 15, 2014 5:03:03 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Alot of hy releases and here nothing.


Might be today after 4:00 pm
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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faa
#275 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:29:31 AM
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Results for Kk will be great. Many won't believe. Its time to take positions and get in to the bus folks
Aguytrying
#276 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:33:01 AM
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faa wrote:
Results for Kk will be great. Many won't believe. Its time to take positions and get in to the bus folks


I want to believe you. ill be very interested in the fuel sales they are making, that must have gone down drastically. after they clear the skeletons, they should concentrate on the core business... improve stations infrastructure, better service, more services etc. ahem like shell and total. the brand image needs to change. and I'm sure the retail margins are better now than 1-2 yrs ago.
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Aguytrying
#277 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:57:43 AM
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@VVS. assist me. I'm wondering why bamburi cement over in this and the last financial year quarters is paying dividends higher than what it is earning???? yet is in a sector that requires a lot of capital expenditure in the short to medium term.

Is it cash being siphoned for the lafarge/holcim merger?

Is it the reason why they've been heavy trades since this year, possibly for the acquiring of more shares= more dividends?

what are the likely future outcomes?

regards
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Kausha
#278 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 1:19:40 PM
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Lafarge needs cash to lower cashflow levels ahead of merger but also complete acquisitions in asia.
h2s
#279 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:39:01 PM
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murchr wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Alot of hy releases and here nothing.


Might be today after 4:00 pm

Last year they released the HY on 23rdAugust, so probably the coming Friday (22ndAugust).
VituVingiSana
#280 Posted : Saturday, August 16, 2014 11:13:38 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
@VVS. assist me. I'm wondering why bamburi cement over in this and the last financial year quarters is paying dividends higher than what it is earning???? yet is in a sector that requires a lot of capital expenditure in the short to medium term.

Is it cash being siphoned for the lafarge/holcim merger?

Is it the reason why they've been heavy trades since this year, possibly for the acquiring of more shares= more dividends?

what are the likely future outcomes?

regards
Despite what folks think, Bamburi is a small part of LaFarge's global business. And within Africa, it is not the largest business unit either and has other factories including in Nigeria (LaFarge Wapco), Zambia (LaFarge Chilanga), etc so I am sure a Shs 6/share dividend is not going to make a huge difference to them. They claim 6/- for the 60 years. Perhaps that is true.

Many firms accumulate cash as a defensive mechanism but if you retain cash, it reduces your ROE.
Warren Buffett has said that when BH cannot deploy the cash to earn a 'positive' [higher than average] return then he will distribute the excess cash.
I am not sure where Bamburi lost the plot but it stopped growing unlike ARM among others (new firms) in Kenya. I think it planned a takeover of EAPCC but politics killed the deal.
So Bamburi doesn't need the cash to expand at the moment. If GoK gets its act together, it may buy out Bamburi's stake in EAPCC which means more cash in hand.

Capex: Bamburi has already SPENT the majority of the capex it needs to maintain its current production in Mombasa, Nairobi and Uganda (Hima). Perhaps all it needs is cash for maintenance but that is covered by operating profits.

EAC: I believe LaFarge may see expansion in TZ to be a better bet just as ARM has done. Eventually, the TZ economy will be bigger than Kenya but LaFarge has the capacity to invest in TZ and wait.

Trades: LaFarge cannot buy more shares in any one year beyond their current holdings without an exemption from CMA. Refer to the 'exemption' from the Takeover Rules that Chris Kirubi applied for.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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