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Garissa university attack.
AlphDoti
#261 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 12:48:28 PM
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tycho
#262 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:00:45 PM
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We lose intelligence and effectiveness when we cling to past lessons and perceptions and unexamined opinions.

Right now we are grieving, and grief has its distortions. We should probably handle the grieving by knowing how easy it is to cast blame on others to cover for our own individual weaknesses.
alma
#263 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:02:32 PM
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tycho wrote:
We lose intelligence and effectiveness when we cling to past lessons and perceptions and unexamined opinions.

Right now we are grieving, and grief has its distortions. We should probably handle the grieving by knowing how easy it is to cast blame on others to cover for our own individual weaknesses.


Wazua spirit, the like button please.


Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
limanika
#264 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 1:25:26 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
limanika wrote:
The other strategy used by MO1 is he had 3 basic chain sources if Intel. There was provincial administration, special branch and then some informal structure right from the village. This latter one was headed by Hezekiah oyugi at some point.At village level there was a chief, then headman(chiefs asstnt) and someone called Incharge at e lowest level. I understand for the 24yrs,MO1 used to wake up at 4am and by 8am, he had already talked to his informers at the grassroots and was aware of the security situation in every nook and cranny. Woe unto you if you were a DC or high ranking officer and if he calls you are not aware of the situation in your area. This whole system was dismantled when Kibaki came, and he started to rely 100% on official reports, same thing uhuruto is doing. I think this system it's not working especially in Neastern and coast, since officers will normally report what you want to hear

I think there is intentionally compromised. How would you explain M01 govt which was more effective compared to this day when we have mobiles, CCTV, cameras, better tools... yet we still do random raids!!!

Given the prevailing situation, I would expect PORK and each County commander to have names and telephone contacts of all chiefs and their assistants on one spreadsheet at the touch of a button. PORk needs to be able to do random checks to validate official reports and keep everyone on their toes
jaggernaut
#265 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 2:17:35 PM
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jaggernaut
#266 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:17:06 PM
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harrydre
#267 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 3:23:31 PM
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washiku wrote:
How can we make exposing of terrorists more attractive than harbouring them?


Mbecha !
i.am.back!!!!
alma
#268 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:25:22 PM
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harrydre wrote:
washiku wrote:
How can we make exposing of terrorists more attractive than harbouring them?


Mbecha !


mbecha works in Ethiopia and New York. Stop hiring nsis officers who are stuck up at skylux. Try the boda boda guy.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
nakujua
#269 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:39:56 PM
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if we were to implement security the Ethiopian way we would run out of donkeys, since all would be chained in towns painted as zebras - bloggers would fall over each other in a mad dash for the human rights donor money ...

The old Moi system had been perfected over a long period of time, and since our constitution is one of the most progressive in the world, I am sure the A materials who drafted it got it right - we just need to give it time.
Rahatupu
#270 Posted : Saturday, April 04, 2015 6:45:38 PM
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nakujua wrote:
if we were to implement security the Ethiopian way we would run out of donkeys, since all would be chained in towns painted as zebras - bloggers would fall over each other in a mad dash for the human rights donor money ...

The old Moi system had been perfected over a long period of time, and since our constitution is one of the most progressive in the world, I am sure the A materials who drafted it got it right - we just need to give it time.

@nakujua, Ditto. Like button!
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