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Fountain Enterprises Programme - FEP
murchr
#261 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:38:52 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dahatre wrote:
There were sooo many clues that this was a scam!

For me, it was this video:





The vision was good,but implementation was poor.

this is normal for any startup.it would have been worrying if there was no vision.

a start up that survives for 5 years is one that has strong foundation.

I understand that FEP has over 6000 acres of land with nearly 400 acres in their name near Daystar Lukenya and some extensive land holdings at the coast.
A stalled 4 star hotel in sagana which can be operationised with little effort. A better corporate governance in the new board with business minded board people now.
they can rise

https://www.fep-group.co...d-board-reconstitution/

another positive for FEP from their published books is that although they have made losses ,all their assets are financed through equity . they do not have those obnoxious bank loans.


they have a strong network of over 200k membership which can be used to harness a ready market for various products.

their problems seems manageable with good management.

it's turnaround is quite easy if they get the right management and partner.


That 400 acres is in dispute, the land in Lukenya was/is owned by families in lots of 40 acres. I find it difficult to believe that they were able to purchase 10 untouched lots in that area. Some families had sold parts and others settled...And I think that is why the real estate project was never started.

CITAM claimed to have land somewhere there what happened to that?

not true .No dispute on the Lukenya land .
There are facts and rumours.get the facts.

the mother title is under kisima real estate and the land is fully subdivided with individual titles per plot under kisima real estate a subsidiary of FEP.you select a plot ,pay and they give you an option to transfer the plot by yourself or they do it for you.

A very open process.

I have friends who have bought the land and have titles already transferred in their names.
they did a land search and confirmed


You can confirm this from their office.and do a land search by yourself.


400acres or 40?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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newfarer
#262 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 4:46:13 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
murchr wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dahatre wrote:
There were sooo many clues that this was a scam!

For me, it was this video:





The vision was good,but implementation was poor.

this is normal for any startup.it would have been worrying if there was no vision.

a start up that survives for 5 years is one that has strong foundation.

I understand that FEP has over 6000 acres of land with nearly 400 acres in their name near Daystar Lukenya and some extensive land holdings at the coast.
A stalled 4 star hotel in sagana which can be operationised with little effort. A better corporate governance in the new board with business minded board people now.
they can rise

https://www.fep-group.co...d-board-reconstitution/

another positive for FEP from their published books is that although they have made losses ,all their assets are financed through equity . they do not have those obnoxious bank loans.


they have a strong network of over 200k membership which can be used to harness a ready market for various products.

their problems seems manageable with good management.

it's turnaround is quite easy if they get the right management and partner.


That 400 acres is in dispute, the land in Lukenya was/is owned by families in lots of 40 acres. I find it difficult to believe that they were able to purchase 10 untouched lots in that area. Some families had sold parts and others settled...And I think that is why the real estate project was never started.

CITAM claimed to have land somewhere there what happened to that?

not true .No dispute on the Lukenya land .
There are facts and rumours.get the facts.

the mother title is under kisima real estate and the land is fully subdivided with individual titles per plot under kisima real estate a subsidiary of FEP.you select a plot ,pay and they give you an option to transfer the plot by yourself or they do it for you.

A very open process.

I have friends who have bought the land and have titles already transferred in their names.
they did a land search and confirmed


You can confirm this from their office.and do a land search by yourself.


400acres or 40?

372acres
punda amecheka
mkenyan
#263 Posted : Friday, June 21, 2019 10:53:47 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 4/1/2009
Posts: 1,885
newfarer wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dahatre wrote:
There were sooo many clues that this was a scam!

For me, it was this video:





The vision was good,but implementation was poor.

this is normal for any startup.it would have been worrying if there was no vision.

a start up that survives for 5 years is one that has strong foundation.

I understand that FEP has over 6000 acres of land with nearly 400 acres in their name near Daystar Lukenya and some extensive land holdings at the coast.
A stalled 4 star hotel in sagana which can be operationised with little effort. A better corporate governance in the new board with business minded board people now.
they can rise

https://www.fep-group.co...d-board-reconstitution/

another positive for FEP from their published books is that although they have made losses ,all their assets are financed through equity . they do not have those obnoxious bank loans.


they have a strong network of over 200k membership which can be used to harness a ready market for various products.

their problems seems manageable with good management.

it's turnaround is quite easy if they get the right management and partner.

do you know the extent of their liability? these are the kind of posts that lead wazuans to invest in these scam companies.
newfarer
#264 Posted : Friday, June 21, 2019 11:15:25 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
mkenyan wrote:
newfarer wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Dahatre wrote:
There were sooo many clues that this was a scam!

For me, it was this video:





The vision was good,but implementation was poor.

this is normal for any startup.it would have been worrying if there was no vision.

a start up that survives for 5 years is one that has strong foundation.

I understand that FEP has over 6000 acres of land with nearly 400 acres in their name near Daystar Lukenya and some extensive land holdings at the coast.
A stalled 4 star hotel in sagana which can be operationised with little effort. A better corporate governance in the new board with business minded board people now.
they can rise

https://www.fep-group.co...d-board-reconstitution/

another positive for FEP from their published books is that although they have made losses ,all their assets are financed through equity . they do not have those obnoxious bank loans.


they have a strong network of over 200k membership which can be used to harness a ready market for various products.

their problems seems manageable with good management.

it's turnaround is quite easy if they get the right management and partner.

do you know the extent of their liability? these are the kind of posts that lead wazuans to invest in these scam companies.




I have had alot of curiosity on this company and done quite some research about it cos it seems somewhat unique to me.in my research I have noted that in their detailed financials they they owe no bank a loan.

Their lands are fully financed through member contributions.their liabilities are more of trade creditors which can be managed .


See their net asset position as per audited accounts in their website

just stating my findings not influencing anyone to invest.

if you find anything to the contrary
please enlighten us . factually not in an alarmist fashion.


punda amecheka
BGL
#265 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2019 4:24:53 PM
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Joined: 10/11/2009
Posts: 1,223
https://www.businessdail...183482-6icorq/index.html
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BGL
#266 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2019 4:27:10 PM
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Joined: 10/11/2009
Posts: 1,223
I still do not trust these *MIKORAs* of FEP.
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
murchr
#267 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2019 4:28:27 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
BGL wrote:
I still do not trust these *MIKORAs* of FEP.



I thought that was good news
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
BGL
#268 Posted : Friday, July 05, 2019 4:57:19 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/11/2009
Posts: 1,223
murchr wrote:
BGL wrote:
I still do not trust these *MIKORAs* of FEP.



I thought that was good news



They and their girlfriends can still pocket the proportion received from the swiss and we are left hanging on the line to dry.
History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
enyands
#269 Posted : Saturday, July 06, 2019 2:47:07 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/25/2014
Posts: 2,301
Location: kenya
BGL wrote:
murchr wrote:
BGL wrote:
I still do not trust these *MIKORAs* of FEP.



I thought that was good news



They and their girlfriends can still pocket the proportion received from the swiss and we are left hanging on the line to dry.

Prudent to ask terms of the lease/agreement than over criticize every small baby steps they make.
newfarer
#270 Posted : Saturday, July 06, 2019 10:14:42 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
enyands wrote:
BGL wrote:
murchr wrote:
BGL wrote:
I still do not trust these *MIKORAs* of FEP.



I thought that was good news



They and their girlfriends can still pocket the proportion received from the swiss and we are left hanging on the line to dry.

Prudent to ask terms of the lease/agreement than over criticize every small baby steps they make.

true..who are the mikoras now given they have a serious independent board?.can you see the chairman?can a mzungu with a reputable chain of international hotels want to engage with people he has doubts on?.as I said I'm studying the company and would be interested to know.as an investor have you tried to engage them on this?
punda amecheka
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