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Why I reject the BBI
madollar
#251 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2020 3:10:47 AM
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murchr wrote:
Uhuru is trying to pull the Putin card on us. Its not funny anymore. I support Alice on this.



Looked more like a personal attack tanga tanga usually operates in a pack.

By the way who was this > >

Did President Uhuru Kenyatta snub a vocal Tangatanga MP when he attended the burial of multi-party hero Charles Rubia in Kandara on Monday? There are claims the President refused to shake hands with the MP and instead greeted other leaders lined up to receive him. Feeling embarrassed, the MP took a back seat at the tent and appeared to be deep in thought. Has the President started to make good his threat to teach his Mt Kenya critics a bitter lesson? A little bird tells us it's only a matter of time before he starts to openly ignore politicians critical of his administration, especially those from his backyard. VIA THE STAR
murchr
#252 Posted : Friday, January 03, 2020 5:22:29 PM
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madollar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Uhuru is trying to pull the Putin card on us. Its not funny anymore. I support Alice on this.



Looked more like a personal attack tanga tanga usually operates in a pack.

By the way who was this > >

Did President Uhuru Kenyatta snub a vocal Tangatanga MP when he attended the burial of multi-party hero Charles Rubia in Kandara on Monday? There are claims the President refused to shake hands with the MP and instead greeted other leaders lined up to receive him. Feeling embarrassed, the MP took a back seat at the tent and appeared to be deep in thought. Has the President started to make good his threat to teach his Mt Kenya critics a bitter lesson? A little bird tells us it's only a matter of time before he starts to openly ignore politicians critical of his administration, especially those from his backyard. VIA THE STAR



Personal or not, she spoke the truth kinaga ubaga.

Uhuru's handshake is not worth anything in central now. Kwa ground things are different, we miss Kibaki. Uhuru has totally lost it
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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aemathenge
#253 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2020 11:51:00 AM
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For the attention of @Tycho

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Every start of the year since 2015, I have selected a list of 10 books to read throughout the year.

The books have been mainly make-believe tales of speaking turtles, inferior gods, and men of elongated egos.

I have enjoyed these books.

This year I have found myself taking a different direction with weird books such as Butler Joining the list.

Butler focuses on life inside the Oval Office for thirty years.

Wil Haygood recreates the life of Butler Eugene Allen and seeks to answer the question:

What is a Butler’s view in the Oval Office?

Every summary I have read of the book suggests a plot of Allen as a better nonexistent President; with realistic, but silent views on people’s needs and governance.

I look at Africa, especially my home country Kenya and wonder whether we have a system or a personality problem?

Our president is a drunk.

This man has appeared in more than one event drunk and incoherent.

In 2016, a chief in Nakuru was fired for attending a public event drunk.

It is only in Africa where it is illegal to drink and drive but perfectly legal to drink and run a country.

He should man up and see a psychiatrist.

He is obviously under a lot of pressure from people including his mother, who believes that the leadership mantle should remain with the tyrant.

It is her legacy to ensure the son creates a strong dynasty.

Our president’s drug problem is just recoiling from social, emotional, and political pressure.

His cowardice makes it worse.

No strong, independent, decisive man can allow his homestead to be robbed as he watches.

Today we start repaying the China loan after 5 years grace period.

Chinese manage the SGR, which has not earned active income and Kenyans can’t carry foods while using the SGR.

The ticket prices are exaggerated and the government wants to ban the use of roads from Mombasa to Nairobi.

In short, China took our money, took our travel snacks, overcharged us, they will leave truckers jobless, yet we are paying them 71 Billion per year.

Our President is not immoral, he is sick.

He suffers from Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) as a result or as a cause of his alcoholism.

BPD is characterized by unstable moods, emotions, and relationships.

People with BPD become extremely dangerous when the social consequences of negative thoughts, emotions, moods, and relationships are eliminated.

This is why our president will often use words like hatuwaogopi, watatupeleka wapi, and Msicheze na Mimi among other authoritative and threatening words.

When he came to us in 2017, he wanted to help.

However, for alcoholic suffering from BPD, it takes one sitting to change his thoughts, emotions, moods, relationships, and actions.

Right now, the president doesn’t care about us, but he did in 2017.

His emotions are based on his psychological, social, and physical environments.

This is why we are doomed.

This is why BBI should never pass.

This is why we can’t allow Beth Mugo, Atwori, and Murathe to create a constitutional short-circuit to stay in power.

Our president needs help and a lot of prayers to get a spec of mental stability.

We as Kenyans need prayers all through the year.

Last year we died of floods, they now have the colonial 3% levy on small traders, and KRA sent Antiretroviral (ARVs) to West Africa.

The drugs were worth 3.5 Billion meant for 900,000 HIV patients.

Interestingly, KRA wanted tax for the donation.


It feels like someone offering you relief food and paying you to eat.

With him at the throne, Kenya will die soon.

We will continue to say, without fear or favor that Kenya is a failed State and we will blame him and his drunkard stupor.

Look at men like Kagame- Decisive, in-control, sober, sharp, threatening, and focused.

He is simply a drunk joke.

It is, however, not his fault.

What he needs is a doctor, not BBI.

The rest of us need food.


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... I need to understand the psych affecting Kenia.

Old Jomo was out of touch most of his Reign, but things worked.

His Excellency Kibaki was "apparently mostly sickly and bedridden" after his accident, but, wow, things really worked.

You assert Kenyatta II has BPD, whatever that is, so why aren't things working?

Do our institutions have a psychological problem, so bad, that under Old Jomo and HE Kibaki, they work like a charm, but fall into dysfunction under M Zero One and Kenyatta II?

Should we be, actually, worrying about the psychological problems of our institutions and bureaucrats or poor Kenyatta II?


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tycho
#254 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2020 7:10:46 PM
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@Mahegoat, thanks for the food for thought.

The exchange that you have shared above is about competing 'reasons' for and against the BBI. I don't think the quality of reason is sufficient in that none of the participants appears to have presented an argument. That is, evidence to prove any of their claims. The latter party appears to be making no claim at all.

But there's something important about the exchange that is also shared by our country managers and some leaders: that it is natural and expedient to look at this debate from a pro versus con perspective.

Hannah Arendt reminds us that the promise of politics is the ability of differing voices and perspectives to create a common and fair division of solutions.

This reminds us of Plato, in 'The Republic' where a leader's greatest training is that of 'dialectics' or the union of differing perspectives through a rigorous system of knowledge creation and management.

But then the most important factor is the philosophy that builds up this kind of training. The basis of Plato's philosophy was how a human functions and this functioning creates society, or the body politic. We have little understanding of ourselves using most contemporary views. Hence we are mostly incapable of effective political discourse.

But one thing is certain, we need National dialogue backed by a well crafted framework similar to or a modified version of BBI.
aemathenge
#255 Posted : Saturday, January 04, 2020 8:05:41 PM
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tycho wrote:
This reminds us of Plato, in 'The Republic' where a leader's greatest training is that of 'dialectics' or the union of differing perspectives through a rigorous system of knowledge creation and management.

Therein lies my personal challenge.

I feel, like the "wanjinga nyinyi" kid so eloquently puts it, that it is no longer about the "leaders" but the "led".

What is wrong with the Kenian individual, that when He/She has a Michuki/Old Jomo/Kibaki for a boss, performs brilliantly, but when Michuki is transferred, or Kenyatta II takes over, this man/woman reverts to their slovenly self?

Will BBI "cure" the led so that they can pick the "right leader"?

Therein lies my personal challenge.

tycho
#256 Posted : Monday, January 06, 2020 10:32:15 AM
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aemathenge wrote:
tycho wrote:
This reminds us of Plato, in 'The Republic' where a leader's greatest training is that of 'dialectics' or the union of differing perspectives through a rigorous system of knowledge creation and management.

Therein lies my personal challenge.

I feel, like the "wanjinga nyinyi" kid so eloquently puts it, that it is no longer about the "leaders" but the "led".

What is wrong with the Kenian individual, that when He/She has a Michuki/Old Jomo/Kibaki for a boss, performs brilliantly, but when Michuki is transferred, or Kenyatta II takes over, this man/woman reverts to their slovenly self?

Will BBI "cure" the led so that they can pick the "right leader"?

Therein lies my personal challenge.



I can't agree with you that there's a time that Kenyans performed better than others. And I would also not commit myself to saying that Jomo, Michuki or Kibaki were such great leaders. I think they are more of the same in philosophy. But please, if you have any evidence to show of the uniqueness of these leaders, please share.

Your challenge can be best answered if we conduct investigations on the causal conditions and relations that:

1. Tell us times and conditions of optimal performance
2. Whether contents of BBI can be used to optimize performance

I believe these are relatively easy tasks to accomplish. We can have answers and start on implementing a strategy together. Politics can be that easy if there are no schemes to exploit others unjustly.
murchr
#257 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2020 5:44:39 PM
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Raila says referendum will be in June. Walete hii kitu we shred it
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Njunge
#258 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2020 6:12:23 PM
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murchr wrote:
Raila says referendum will be in June. Walete hii kitu we shred it


I obviously don't like Ruto and I will never even if he reforms. I have a passionate dislike for thieves. Somehow , I see him winning against this BBI nonsense. You see, the country is in tatters. Companies are closing left and right. Job losses. Life is becoming unbearable and Kenya needs a quick fix...
Ruto can't get us that but at least he is saying nothing about anything. Uhuru and Raila can do something about it. Unfortunately, they have opted to put focus on some useless shit called BBI which has focus on 2022. Hungry and angry Kenyans won't come out to support that rubbish. I say to them now.STOP!!. Fix this country NOW and spare Kenyans that BBI ghasia!
murchr
#259 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2020 7:05:57 PM
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Njunge wrote:
murchr wrote:
Raila says referendum will be in June. Walete hii kitu we shred it


I obviously don't like Ruto and I will never even if he reforms. I have a passionate dislike for thieves. Somehow , I see him winning against this BBI nonsense. You see, the country is in tatters. Companies are closing left and right. Job losses. Life is becoming unbearable and Kenya needs a quick fix...
Ruto can't get us that but at least he is saying nothing about anything. Uhuru and Raila can do something about it. Unfortunately, they have opted to put focus on some useless shit called BBI which has focus on 2022. Hungry and angry Kenyans won't come out to support that rubbish. I say to them now.STOP!!. Fix this country NOW and spare Kenyans that BBI ghasia!


I told you not to underestimate WSR. Were it not for Ruto, Uhuru would never have clinched the Presidency. He's a chicken.......kut kut kut...and gets trapped then running around swerving on everything without being clear on what he wants.


"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Angelica _ann
#260 Posted : Friday, January 10, 2020 7:43:09 PM
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murchr wrote:
Njunge wrote:
murchr wrote:
Raila says referendum will be in June. Walete hii kitu we shred it


I obviously don't like Ruto and I will never even if he reforms. I have a passionate dislike for thieves. Somehow , I see him winning against this BBI nonsense. You see, the country is in tatters. Companies are closing left and right. Job losses. Life is becoming unbearable and Kenya needs a quick fix...
Ruto can't get us that but at least he is saying nothing about anything. Uhuru and Raila can do something about it. Unfortunately, they have opted to put focus on some useless shit called BBI which has focus on 2022. Hungry and angry Kenyans won't come out to support that rubbish. I say to them now.STOP!!. Fix this country NOW and spare Kenyans that BBI ghasia!


I told you not to underestimate WSR. Were it not for Ruto, Uhuru would never have clinched the Presidency. He's a chicken.......kut kut kut...and gets trapped then running around swerving on everything without being clear on what he wants.




We keep on telling guys that WSR is the next PORK.
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