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OKOA Kenya - CORD demands
Lolest!
#251 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:08:19 PM
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Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

what if they pick your data from anywhere and say you're part of the petition?
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PeterReborn
#252 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:15:51 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Back to the drawing board.


I will trust when i see the drawing board with my own two eyes. They could have f***ed it up in the process as wellsmile


Drawing board? What drawing board? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

The Board could be there, but nothing to draw!!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Referendum will happen. But not now. People need to be angry enough for it to happen.
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masukuma
#253 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:26:26 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

what if they pick your data from anywhere and say you're part of the petition?

who says they didn't? and put a random signature next to it? watu wanamaneno!! Let me ask you a presidential candidate requires to collect 2000 signatures from every county for at least 24 counties. these 2000 are supposed to be members of your party and if you are an independent they are not supposed to be registered members of your party - do you think this is a trivial exercise?
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Othelo
#254 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:34:49 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

what if they pick your data from anywhere and say you're part of the petition?

who says they didn't? and put a random signature next to it? watu wanamaneno!! Let me ask you a presidential candidate requires to collect 2000 signatures from every county for at least 24 counties. these 2000 are supposed to be members of your party and if you are an independent they are not supposed to be registered members of any party - do you think this is a trivial exercise?

Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
Jump-steady
#255 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:38:11 PM
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Lolest! wrote:


Mutula Jr is a Jubilee molesmile
masukuma
#256 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:42:45 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Othelo wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

what if they pick your data from anywhere and say you're part of the petition?

who says they didn't? and put a random signature next to it? watu wanamaneno!! Let me ask you a presidential candidate requires to collect 2000 signatures from every county for at least 24 counties. these 2000 are supposed to be members of your party and if you are an independent they are not supposed to be registered members of any party - do you think this is a trivial exercise?


indeed "any"
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Risasi Sufuri
#257 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:48:49 PM
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Posts: 166
PeterReborn wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Back to the drawing board.


I will trust when i see the drawing board with my own two eyes. They could have f***ed it up in the process as wellsmile


Drawing board? What drawing board? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

The Board could be there, but nothing to draw!!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Referendum will happen. But not now. People need to be angry enough for it to happen.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

The person to draw may also not be capable to draw...smile
Njung'e
#258 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:04:02 PM
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Joined: 2/7/2007
Posts: 11,935
Location: Nairobi
Risasi Sufuri wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
Othelo wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Back to the drawing board.


I will trust when i see the drawing board with my own two eyes. They could have f***ed it up in the process as wellsmile


Drawing board? What drawing board? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

The Board could be there, but nothing to draw!!!


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Referendum will happen. But not now. People need to be angry enough for it to happen.



Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

The person to draw may also not be capable to draw...smile


They are going to court. Maybe the drawing board is there after all.

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hardwood
#259 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:30:22 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Impunity wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Did they verify the genuineness of the signatures coz that is a major loophole. Also many peoples signatures change slightly over time and therefore could have been thrown out for "not being genuine". Scrutiny of signatures could have reduced cords number to just 100k.


Why is the signature required by the way?
A valid ID and being registred voter, to me, is enough.

who said they verified signatures? when you do eliminations until under 1M - there is no point of engaging resources to verify signatures. I actually don't think they have digitized signatures seated somewhere... ziko kwa zile hardcopies.


And that was my point since i suspect cord "signed on behalf of" many people. I understand they collected most of the names and ID nos from Mpesa shops. Genuine signatures could only have been 20k. I wouldn't be surprised if I found out that I am one those who "signed" for okoa (without their knowledge).
hardwood
#260 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 3:35:03 PM
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Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Jump-steady wrote:
Lolest! wrote:


Mutula Jr is a Jubilee molesmile


He's a young ambitious politician who doesn't want his bright future messed up by baba.
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