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masukuma
#2551 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2020 3:26:28 PM
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Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
Beligum study shows that low doses of Hydroxychloroquine could heal Covid19. Study released on 24/8 possibly not peer reviewed.


it's an observational study...
next door neighbour Netherlands also run a study... no benefits

These studies remind me of this chart


Earlier the claims from people getting information from Asia was that you needed heavy doses 500mg ... now lighter doses. It was that it could be effective in later stage now it's earlier...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
sqft
#2552 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2020 4:06:01 PM
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Location: Kenya
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Beligum study shows that low doses of Hydroxychloroquine could heal Covid19. Study released on 24/8 possibly not peer reviewed.


it's an observational study...
next door neighbour Netherlands also run a study... no benefits


Why are you always against positive corona cure news, to the extent of dismissing the respected Belgian scientists? Why believe the netherland scientists and not the belgian scientists? FYI your netherlands study has not been peer reviewed.

Anyway scientists from universities in the US, Germany and Madagascar now say the Madagascan herbal cure works.

https://uknow.uky.edu/re...sing-treatment-covid-19
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
kaka2za
#2553 Posted : Friday, August 28, 2020 8:15:02 PM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Beligum study shows that low doses of Hydroxychloroquine could heal Covid19. Study released on 24/8 possibly not peer reviewed.


it's an observational study...
next door neighbour Netherlands also run a study... no benefits


Why are you always against positive corona cure news, to the extent of dismissing the respected Belgian scientists? Why believe the netherland scientists and not the belgian scientists? FYI your netherlands study has not been peer reviewed.

Anyway scientists from universities in the US, Germany and Madagascar now say the Madagascan herbal cure works.

https://uknow.uky.edu/re...sing-treatment-covid-19


@Matharu is actually quite objective.
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
mpobiz
#2554 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2020 9:07:41 AM
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Joined: 8/10/2010
Posts: 2,264
kaka2za wrote:
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Beligum study shows that low doses of Hydroxychloroquine could heal Covid19. Study released on 24/8 possibly not peer reviewed.


it's an observational study...
next door neighbour Netherlands also run a study... no benefits


Why are you always against positive corona cure news, to the extent of dismissing the respected Belgian scientists? Why believe the netherland scientists and not the belgian scientists? FYI your netherlands study has not been peer reviewed.

Anyway scientists from universities in the US, Germany and Madagascar now say the Madagascan herbal cure works.

https://uknow.uky.edu/re...sing-treatment-covid-19


@Matharu is actually quite objective.


He is on record saying he argues just for fun and doesn't seek any objectives. In fact he is on our side--- the positive thinkers.
Only one word can describe him jackass
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
masukuma
#2555 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:26:05 AM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Beligum study shows that low doses of Hydroxychloroquine could heal Covid19. Study released on 24/8 possibly not peer reviewed.


it's an observational study...
next door neighbour Netherlands also run a study... no benefits


Why are you always against positive corona cure news, to the extent of dismissing the respected Belgian scientists? Why believe the netherland scientists and not the belgian scientists? FYI your netherlands study has not been peer reviewed.

Anyway scientists from universities in the US, Germany and Madagascar now say the Madagascan herbal cure works.

https://uknow.uky.edu/re...sing-treatment-covid-19

I haven't dismissed them my friend... I haven't accepted them either! Life is not boolean that if you don't accept something - you have rejected it! that's the world of religion. I personally think it works to some extent... there are articles and studies that go back to 1991 that show that chloroquine creates an environment that inhibits replication of coronaviruses... I said that in March!!

masukuma wrote:
So what I have learned so far
1) coronaviruses are a family of viruses that cause illness ranging from the common cold to more severe diseases like MERS, SARS and COVID-19.
2) there are coronaviruses that have not 'jumped' species and are mainly still in bats. bats being bats are everywhere! they are the animals with the second largest number of species and live everywhere...including kenya where a
study shows talks about the existence of Novel SARS-like and Other Coronaviruses in Bats living in Kenya.
4) While it takes a bit of bad luck to get an outbreak started - the next coronavirus outbreak can be from anywhere - Kenya's bats have 41 distinct coronaviruses so it's important to have this problem looked at in the long term.
5) a 1991 study in the journal of virology outlined how Chloroquine (amongst others) slowed down the growth of coronaviruses by raising the PH of the cells. apparently coronaviruses need acidic environments to bind to cell receptors.
6) ibuprofen has been in the news lately as one of the drugs to avoid if you are exhibiting C-19 symptoms. why? it helps them multiply. it also has a low PH.


Conclusion - anything that raises the PH of the body may be effective in stopping the reproduction of coronaviruses in human cells. this is not to mean that eating alkaline foods will translate to raising the PH of your tissues (as digestion may just neutralize it). Perhaps pharmacists and biochemists can tell us what other drugs lower the PH of blood and cell tissues.


science is not static but we don't just accept things because they have been thrown your way. that's the reason I shared the "what causes cancer studies".

Put in the work!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
masukuma
#2556 Posted : Saturday, August 29, 2020 11:10:05 AM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
mpobiz wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
sqft wrote:
masukuma wrote:
murchr wrote:
Beligum study shows that low doses of Hydroxychloroquine could heal Covid19. Study released on 24/8 possibly not peer reviewed.


it's an observational study...
next door neighbour Netherlands also run a study... no benefits


Why are you always against positive corona cure news, to the extent of dismissing the respected Belgian scientists? Why believe the netherland scientists and not the belgian scientists? FYI your netherlands study has not been peer reviewed.

Anyway scientists from universities in the US, Germany and Madagascar now say the Madagascan herbal cure works.

https://uknow.uky.edu/re...sing-treatment-covid-19


@Matharu is actually quite objective.


He is on record saying he argues just for fun and doesn't seek any objectives. In fact he is on our side--- the positive thinkers.
Only one word can describe him jackass


The problem with @mpobiz is that while he knows how to read - he tends not to use that skill really well

Quote:
I am not on this forum to argue to be RIGHT. Aki I hope I AM WRONG... THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE WRONG ABOUT.


Read it again and again! where did I say
Quote:
[I] argue[s] just for fun and doesn't seek any objectives


where? Kaka, Najua unajua Kusoma - tumia hiyo skill vizuri! my words are measured and targeted... they mean to COMMUNICATE WHAT I WROTE! not what you think you read or think I said or meant to say! They communicate what I wrote - that is why I can quote in 2012...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
madollar
#2557 Posted : Thursday, September 03, 2020 2:59:51 AM
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Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 2,040
Location: GA
Coming from CDC this is big news unless its totally compromised by trump given elections are november

Lolest!
#2558 Posted : Thursday, September 03, 2020 12:15:18 PM
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Joined: 3/18/2011
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Location: Kianjokoma
Poverty could be saving Africa from devastation
Quote:
"It's a hypothesis. Some level of pre-existing cross-protective immunity… might explain why the epidemic didn't unfold [the way it did in other parts of the world]," said Prof Madhi, explaining that data from scientists in the US appeared to support the hypothesis.

Colds and flu are, of course, commonplace around the world.

But the South African scientists wondered whether, because those viruses spread more effectively in overcrowded neighbourhoods, poorer communities might have been more widely exposed and therefore, enjoy a larger degree of immunity towards Covid-19.

The same, of course, could apply to other parts of the world, like India, with similar challenges.

"The protection might be much more intense in highly populated areas, in African settings. It might explain why the majority [on the continent] have asymptomatic or mild infections," said Prof Madhi.

"I can't think of anything else that would explain the numbers of completely asymptomatic people we're seeing. The numbers are completely unbelievable," he said, savouring the irony of the possibility that Africa's entrenched poverty might "for once" work in the continent's favour.

Sceptics though might point to countries like Brazil, with its crowded favelas, and its high infection rate.

https://www.bbc.com/news..._twitter_impression=true
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mpobiz
#2559 Posted : Friday, September 04, 2020 11:30:32 PM
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[quote=Lolest!]Poverty could be saving Africa from devastation
Quote:
"It's a hypothesis. Some level of pre-existing cross-protective immunity… might explain why the epidemic didn't unfold [the way it did in other parts of the world]," said Prof Madhi, explaining that data from scientists in the US appeared to support the hypothesis.

Colds and flu are, of course, commonplace around the world.

But the South African scientists wondered whether, because those viruses spread more effectively in overcrowded neighbourhoods, poorer communities might have been more widely exposed and therefore, enjoy a larger degree of immunity towards Covid-19.

The same, of course, could apply to other parts of the world, like India, with similar challenges.

"The protection might be much more intense in highly populated areas, in African settings. It might explain why the majority [on the continent] have asymptomatic or mild infections," said Prof Madhi.

"I can't think of anything else that would explain the numbers of completely asymptomatic people we're seeing. The numbers are completely unbelievable," he said, savouring the irony of the possibility that Africa's entrenched poverty might "for once" work in the continent's favour.

Sceptics though might point to countries like Brazil, with its crowded favelas, and its high infection rate.

https://www.bbc.com/news...twitter_impression=true[/quote]

I predicted this a long time ago when I said that purity of life is a major determinant on the severity of this infection. Our poverty which has exposed us to numerous other bacteria and viruses has somehow come to save us from this small flu.
This I did as the likes of masukuma were busy with their charts , graphs and a lot of useless mathematics. Also by likening our lifestyles to the muzungu just because he can post in English and can afford a morgage to build his house huko dustbowl.
Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
omega
#2560 Posted : Saturday, September 05, 2020 12:41:28 PM
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Joined: 6/9/2009
Posts: 85
mpobiz wrote:
[quote=Lolest!]Poverty could be saving Africa from devastation
Quote:
"It's a hypothesis. Some level of pre-existing cross-protective immunity… might explain why the epidemic didn't unfold [the way it did in other parts of the world]," said Prof Madhi, explaining that data from scientists in the US appeared to support the hypothesis.

Colds and flu are, of course, commonplace around the world.

But the South African scientists wondered whether, because those viruses spread more effectively in overcrowded neighbourhoods, poorer communities might have been more widely exposed and therefore, enjoy a larger degree of immunity towards Covid-19.

The same, of course, could apply to other parts of the world, like India, with similar challenges.

"The protection might be much more intense in highly populated areas, in African settings. It might explain why the majority [on the continent] have asymptomatic or mild infections," said Prof Madhi.

"I can't think of anything else that would explain the numbers of completely asymptomatic people we're seeing. The numbers are completely unbelievable," he said, savouring the irony of the possibility that Africa's entrenched poverty might "for once" work in the continent's favour.

Sceptics though might point to countries like Brazil, with its crowded favelas, and its high infection rate.

https://www.bbc.com/news...twitter_impression=true[/quote]

I predicted this a long time ago when I said that purity of life is a major determinant on the severity of this infection. Our poverty which has exposed us to numerous other bacteria and viruses has somehow come to save us from this small flu.
This I did as the likes of masukuma were busy with their charts , graphs and a lot of useless mathematics. Also by likening our lifestyles to the muzungu just because he can post in English and can afford a morgage to build his house huko dustbowl.


Africa needs to embrace science (scientific research, the mathematics, graphs, charts, etc) and move away from the middle Ages type of thinking. This is the reason we are still plagued with poverty and ignorance almost 60 years after independence.
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