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A South African news blog examines Covid-19 myths with respect to SA but I think they can be applied here in Kenya as well. The link is here for further reading. I have highlighted the main points below. Quote:In South Africa, he concludes, the real plague proved not viral but human: the corruption of a ruling party which for too long has operated like an organised criminal conspiracy. The ten great myths of Covid-19 2020 By Brian Pottinger
- The first myth is that the Covid-19 is so virulent that we had to close down the world. The initial modeled Case Fatality Rate, a measure of the severity of an outbreak, has been in free fall since initial estimates derived from China put it at 5.7 per cent.
- The second myth is that the academic epidemiological modelers, masters of the “science” we were all supposed to follow, knew what they were doing. They did not have a clue.
- The third myth is that public health services would be overwhelmed by the flood of Covid-19 cases. Apart from Covid-19’s point of first European landfall in Bergamo, Italy, no overwhelming of services has occurred in Asia, Europe, the United Kingdom or the United States. Emergency hospitals erected at enormous cost have been dismantled without admitting a single patient. We are on track for the same here.
- The fourth myth is that Covid-19 patients were in urgent need of massive intubation and ventilation. The European, British and American experiences soon revealed the opposite: intubation was the worst thing for elderly or very sick people who are overwhelmingly the victims of the virus.
- The fifth myth, the biggest, is that the WHO’s “confirmed” case and fatality numbers are indeed confirmed. The WHO and some of its associated data collection agencies have constantly expanded symptom definitions and short-cut established verification processes, thus fatally blurring the lines between those who died from Covid-19 and those with it and even creating uncertainty about whether some ever had it.
- The sixth myth is that the government, healthcare professionals and scientific academic epidemiologists should be forgiven their errors because they were dealing with a “novel” virus and were correct to over-react. All they had to do was read recent history.
- The seventh myth of Covid-19 is that governments had no option but to enforce national lock-downs. Early on it was known the virus spread by cluster infections. Agile, organised and disciplined countries like China, South Korea, Singapore and Taiwan understood this and acted effectively to contain localised outbreaks. China quashed the outbreak in two months with fewer than 5 000 fatalities by quarantining less than 0.8% of its population.
- The eighth myth is that all of this was to “save lives”. Perhaps, but the number is unknowable. What is known is that the denial of medical services to the public, the delaying of critical procedures and the withdrawal of a needlessly terrified public from engaging the health services at all has created a long tail collateral death toll which will exceed the real Covid-19 death roll.
- The ninth myth was that Covid-19 was a “killer event” to equal others. The Black Death of 1348 claimed one third of the world’s population. World War One took 1.2 per cent. World War Two three per cent; the Spanish Flu of 1918 one to three per cent, the Asian Flu of 1957/8 0.03% and the Hong Kong Flu of 1968/9 0.10%. Covid-19, as of end July, stood at 0.009%.
- Finally, the tenth myth, was that our President, cabinet and ruling party would wisely, rationally and effectively use the total powers thrust into their hands by a trusting public and media.
The author is not an epidemiologist or health professional for that matter, but he does raise serious issues on the covid response that need to be looked into and debated without bias. For example; the role and effects of corruption on covid procurement policies, was the lock-down necessary based on what we know now, were other serious health ailments relegated and Covid-19 given more preference, did the public trust the GoK officials too much without questioning ...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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193 positive cases out of 3381 samples 5.7% positivity rate Jana it was sub 6% too
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Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
You can actually ignore all that ‘positivity’ kizungu mingi. The number that really maters is mortality rate, which floats around 1.5%, of the total positive sample. Compare this to Malaria, 5.1% death rate, out of an annual total of over a million positive cases. We have either been coned or our government is incompetent and corrupt, or both. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
was 5.9% - its looking better. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
You can actually ignore all that ‘positivity’ kizungu mingi. The number that really maters is mortality rate, which floats around 1.5%, of the total positive sample. Compare this to Malaria, 5.1% death rate, out of an annual total of over a million positive cases. We have either been coned or our government is incompetent and corrupt, or both. Quote:There are two ways to have the tallest building in town. One is to tear everyone else's building down & the other is to build your building taller. Instead of stepping up the attention given to Malaria, you are proposing that you reduce the attention given to Covid? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
was 5.9% - its looking better. Of interest to note is it's been very cold and the numbers are dropping, also thos is after the covid heist announcement "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
was 5.9% - its looking better. Of interest to note is it's been very cold and the numbers are dropping, also thos is after the covid heist announcement Lets be honest,in the month of July when the numbers were beginning to look bad you heard of people you know who got it.Not in the media but friends and relatives and friends of friends.Since 2 weeks ago,I have not heard of one I know.To me this is an indicator this thing is on its way out.We are also not hearing the scary stories of people collapsing on the streets. Something else is they are now doing target testing and not mass testing which could give flawed results as explained earlier. All in all things are looking better. For those who want to connect it with the expose......well you are free. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
was 5.9% - its looking better. Of interest to note is it's been very cold and the numbers are dropping, also thos is after the covid heist announcement Lets be honest,in the month of July when the numbers were beginning to look bad you heard of people you know who got it.Not in the media but friends and relatives and friends of friends.Since 2 weeks ago,I have not heard of one I know.To me this is an indicator this thing is on its way out.We are also not hearing the scary stories of people collapsing on the streets. Something else is they are now doing target testing and not mass testing which could give flawed results as explained earlier. All in all things are looking better. For those who want to connect it with the expose......well you are free. yes - some of us compute the positivity rate daily and we can tell you that there was a time it was 20%. Was actually expecting it to hit 1000 cases and then it slowly decreased after the effects of the bars were closing were felt and that time Papa died. People took it seriously and the postivity rate has been going down steadily. remember I wrote that I was cautiously optimistic? then we were told that GoK people were being tested and that's why the numbers were lower? but it never resurged. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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masukuma wrote:Bigchick wrote:murchr wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:193 positive cases out of 3381 samples
5.7% positivity rate
Jana it was sub 6% too
was 5.9% - its looking better. Of interest to note is it's been very cold and the numbers are dropping, also thos is after the covid heist announcement Lets be honest,in the month of July when the numbers were beginning to look bad you heard of people you know who got it.Not in the media but friends and relatives and friends of friends.Since 2 weeks ago,I have not heard of one I know.To me this is an indicator this thing is on its way out.We are also not hearing the scary stories of people collapsing on the streets. Something else is they are now doing target testing and not mass testing which could give flawed results as explained earlier. All in all things are looking better. For those who want to connect it with the expose......well you are free. yes - some of us compute the positivity rate daily and we can tell you that there was a time it was 20%. Was actually expecting it to hit 1000 cases and then it slowly decreased after the effects of the bars were closing were felt and that time Papa died. People took it seriously and the postivity rate has been going down steadily. remember I wrote that I was cautiously optimistic? then we were told that GoK people were being tested and that's why the numbers were lower? but it never resurged. Apologise to us who told you very early that this thing was going nowhere. Also go back in these thread and delete your useless mathematics. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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