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hardwood		#241 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 8:50:33 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay		Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee?
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murchr		#242 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 8:56:46 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		hardwood wrote: Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee? Save for this time the supplier did not supply anything but air so what was he receiving payments for? He can explain that to the judge "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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2012		#243 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 9:05:53 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		murchr wrote: hardwood wrote: Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee? Save for this time the supplier did not supply anything but air so what was he receiving payments for? He can explain that to the judge That's even easier because he does not have to explain that. The one who needs to explain is the one doing the paying. What was he paying for? It's not unusual to be paid for doing nothing. Many employers in Kenya pay salaries to employees who do nothing but are too expensive to dispense of. BBI will solve it :)
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murchr		#244 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 9:28:24 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		2012 wrote: murchr wrote: hardwood wrote: Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee? Save for this time the supplier did not supply anything but air so what was he receiving payments for? He can explain that to the judge That's even easier because he does not have to explain that. The one who needs to explain is the one doing the paying. What was he paying for? It's not unusual to be paid for doing nothing. Many employers in Kenya pay salaries to employees who do nothing but are too expensive to dispense of. They are all in court "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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2012		#245 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 9:37:51 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		murchr wrote: 2012 wrote: murchr wrote: hardwood wrote: Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee? Save for this time the supplier did not supply anything but air so what was he receiving payments for? He can explain that to the judge That's even easier because he does not have to explain that. The one who needs to explain is the one doing the paying. What was he paying for? It's not unusual to be paid for doing nothing. Many employers in Kenya pay salaries to employees who do nothing but are too expensive to dispense of. They are all in court And a lawyer will tell you that that complicates the case because an accused person cannot be a credible witness. Plus they may demand a deal to rat on the other. This came up over a drink with a lawyer friend who told me this judiciary will sweat over this case. Americans offer a reduced jail term of free the small fish to entice them to testify against the big fish but we have only small fishes in this NYS saga. BBI will solve it :)
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murchr		#246 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 10:30:23 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980		2012 wrote: murchr wrote: 2012 wrote: murchr wrote: hardwood wrote: Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee? Save for this time the supplier did not supply anything but air so what was he receiving payments for? He can explain that to the judge That's even easier because he does not have to explain that. The one who needs to explain is the one doing the paying. What was he paying for? It's not unusual to be paid for doing nothing. Many employers in Kenya pay salaries to employees who do nothing but are too expensive to dispense of. They are all in court And a lawyer will tell you that that complicates the case because an accused person cannot be a credible witness. Plus they may demand a deal to rat on the other. This came up over a drink with a lawyer friend who told me this judiciary will sweat over this case. Americans offer a reduced jail term of free the small fish to entice them to testify against the big fish but we have only small fishes in this NYS saga. Who said any of the accused is a witness? Those who colluded to defraud the county are in jail others on the run but its a matter of time. An accused person can be witness if they confess to crime. There are other ways of catching a thief in this technology day and age, you leave your digital prints allover. Phones, txts, base stations, emails, login information, bank account records, purchases, etcetera etcetera Do not comment on the US system if you know nothing about it. There are numerous cases of people who colluded to the defraud the gov that you can read about . Watch how Paul Manafort will end up "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Angelica _ann		#247 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 11:53:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,937		Currently in Kenya in the same case, you cannot be an accused and a witness at the same time. Ni hayo tu!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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2012		#248 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 9:34:48 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi		murchr wrote: 2012 wrote: murchr wrote: 2012 wrote: murchr wrote: hardwood wrote: Baratang wrote: 2012 wrote: Elsewhere in the unfolding NYS soap opera.... The NYS saga lead detective is allegedly Ngirita's business partner according to a sworn affidavit. Yaani sasa.... This is a side show...Ngiritas still received 59m for supplying air...whether the lead investigator was a business partner or not. If you are running a kiosk and your employee pays a supplier "59 million" who is to blame? The payer or the payee? Save for this time the supplier did not supply anything but air so what was he receiving payments for? He can explain that to the judge That's even easier because he does not have to explain that. The one who needs to explain is the one doing the paying. What was he paying for? It's not unusual to be paid for doing nothing. Many employers in Kenya pay salaries to employees who do nothing but are too expensive to dispense of. They are all in court And a lawyer will tell you that that complicates the case because an accused person cannot be a credible witness. Plus they may demand a deal to rat on the other. This came up over a drink with a lawyer friend who told me this judiciary will sweat over this case. Americans offer a reduced jail term of free the small fish to entice them to testify against the big fish but we have only small fishes in this NYS saga. Who said any of the accused is a witness? Those who colluded to defraud the county are in jail others on the run but its a matter of time. An accused person can be witness if they confess to crime. There are other ways of catching a thief in this technology day and age, you leave your digital prints allover. Phones, txts, base stations, emails, login information, bank account records, purchases, etcetera etcetera Do not comment on the US system if you know nothing about it. There are numerous cases of people who colluded to the defraud the gov that you can read about . Watch how Paul Manafort will end up I know you have very high hopes and so should we all, but you obviously know that the entire case is based on forensics that will be submitted by an allegedly compromised officer... I'm also optimistic but I followed the disappointing televised Goldenberg enquiry under Justice Bosire that brought in expert after expert and let pastor Paul off. The case was very similar to this... BBI will solve it :)
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Njunge		#249 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:41:50 AM
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921		In the meantime, a delegation of 8 Zambian Mpigs are in Kenya to learn how to fight corruption.
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Intelligentsia		#250 Posted : Tuesday, June 12, 2018 12:13:40 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436		Njunge wrote: In the meantime, a delegation of 8 Zambian Mpigs are in Kenya to learn how to fight corruption. This is corruption perpetrated on the Zambian people themuselufs
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