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Wakanyugi wrote:Swenani wrote:2012 wrote:But let's put our tribal enemity aside for a minute. What are Raila's promises or manifesto to Kenyans? I honestly don't know, I watched his campaign and I cannot even think of one... other than removing the wazungus from farms and cutting rent - which I'm not even whether it's him who said or it was the Jubilee propaganda machine at work. The fact that you have not bothered to LOOK for the manifesto tells me that you have not done what you are asking people to do It depends on which Raila manifesto you mean. There are at lease two - including one that was written to accommodate his sponsor. The other one was an underwhelming piece of work crafted like a bad MA thesis. Ndii's handiwork no doubt. But, to be honest, who remembers Jubilees manifesto? What mattered are the many bromides it contained that Uhuruto have hammered at every stump, to the point that a child can recite them. That is the stuff on which elections are won, not long winded tomes that no one will read. Baba has been been failed by his advisers, including the so called smart lawyers. For intance, whose smart idea was it that he should boycott the election? It was in the manifesto If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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washiku wrote:Standardized Fare: Nrb-Nkr: ksh40 Nrb-Kisumu: ksh3,000 Nakuru-Kisumu: Ksh 1,500 Kericho-Kisumu: ksh 500 Nrb-Nyeri: ksh 40 Nairobi-Kiambu: free Nrb-Eldy/Kericho: ksh 60 Nrb-Kitui: ksh 1000 Nbi-Embu: ksh 50 Nairobi-Olkalou/Nyahururu-ksh 40 Nbi-Meru: ksh 100 Nairobi-Murang'a: free Courtesy of 2NK Sacco Wee Washiku wacha propaganda.This was refuted by 2NK jana. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Bigchick wrote:washiku wrote:Standardized Fare: Nrb-Nkr: ksh40 Nrb-Kisumu: ksh3,000 Nakuru-Kisumu: Ksh 1,500 Kericho-Kisumu: ksh 500 Nrb-Nyeri: ksh 40 Nairobi-Kiambu: free Nrb-Eldy/Kericho: ksh 60 Nrb-Kitui: ksh 1000 Nbi-Embu: ksh 50 Nairobi-Olkalou/Nyahururu-ksh 40 Nbi-Meru: ksh 100 Nairobi-Murang'a: free Courtesy of 2NK Sacco Wee Washiku wacha propaganda.This was refuted by 2NK jana. Wewe wacha we go home for free 
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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essyk wrote:masukuma wrote:newfarer wrote:masukuma wrote:safariant wrote:masukuma wrote:safariant wrote:Uhuruto has been played.
IEBC chairman ex-ODM,
Court ruling gives him leeway to kick out officials 'responsible' for the lost election mess,
Potential change of ballot printing company may be well calculated to have extra ballot papers.
Coming election will only have presidential votes, if ballot stuffing happens there is no other votes totals to compare with.
Jubilee surport of the current IEBC commission will mean if they lose complaints about rigging will not be taken seriously.
Fighting with Supreme Court means they have no chance of winning a petition against the 4 wakoras. you think Kenyan's are that organized? mnacheza na elections... GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE LEGAL THING - RIGHT TAKES EFFORT!! GETTING PEOPLE TO DO THE ILLEGAL THING - RIGHT je? But they just did the illegal thing right, to the extent the election was nullified. It's probably easier to do wrong than right It's easy to do "wrong" but "wrong" is not a monolithic thing as compared to "right". So the "wrong" that would profit a guy would not necessarily be the "wrong" that would be committed by a wrong doer! Only a cerain type of "wrong" would advantage a candidate and making this "wrong" the standard "wrong" to be committed by everyone takes as much effort as teaching the "right" if not a bit more. this sounds tychoish.can you break it for the wanjikus the premise is 1) for any process there are many things can get done - some of them are the right things to be done and some are wrong. for example, the filling in of a form. the "proper" i.e. right thing that can be done is to PROPERLY FILL IN THE FORM WITH ALL REQUIRED FIELDS AND VALID VALUES. so there is only one "proper" way to do it. as soon as someone fails to do it - it's wrong. which means that while the filling in of the form PROPERLY can be done in 1 way - doing it wrong is anything outside that. so for example... filling it with invalid values is wrong. not filling it is invalid. not filling all fields is invalid. not signing it is invalid... as you can see the "invalids" or IMPROPER ways outnumber the "valid" or PROPER WAYS - right? so for each possible right thing there exists many possible wrongs. 2) To get a huge group of people to do this PROPER thing requires rigorous training. anyone who has ever been part of this knows that there are no assumptions. you drill people to do this one PROPER thing and even still... there are always some in every crowd that don't get it. 3) for someone to consistently prejudice one person and end up profiting another person from "IMPROPER" fillings - it has to be consistent. So remembering that there are many "wrong" ways - you need to happen in a certain "wrong" way... right? since such wrong things as not filling in a form screws everyone not just the guy you want. Sometimes there could be a wrong thing that prejudices you and not the guy you want screwed! So you need to be disciplined to ensure that only a certain set of wrong things get done. 4) I therefore came to a conclusion that in the same way getting people to do ONE PROPER THING is hard (as seen in point 2 above), getting them to ignore this ONE PROPER THING and do THIS ONE IMPROPER THING consistently is just as hard as getting them to do the ONE PROPER THING - if not harder. She had no confidence with her team The commission dropped more than 200 presiding officers, saying they have looked into the errors the Supreme Court said they made, and drafted a 10-point manual for staff.
The top court nullified President Uhuru Kenyatta's victory over NASA chief Raila Odinga in a ruling on September 1.
Former commissioner Roselyne Akombe announced drastic measures, including the manual, in an address on October 13.
She said: "With these guides, we have vowed zero tolerance to non-compliance. That is why we have, for instance, dropped over 200 presiding officers who made errors in the previous election. We have also dropped some ROs that after vetting...they were not competent."The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/16/2011 Posts: 2,387
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Chapter closed!!!!!
Raila must be History to be learned at University of a socialist in the bush
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Realtreaty wrote:Chapter closed!!!!!
Raila must be History to be learned at University of a socialist in the bush Not Yet Baba. He is coming back in 2022 to face WSR. By then he will be 77, full of wisdom and ready for a fight and one more okuyu to screw. In 2013 he screwed SKM, 2017 did the same to Jimmy and i suspect in 2022 he will screw another okuyu big time. For Baba elections ae big business opportunity and he will never miss that bus. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Gathige wrote:Realtreaty wrote:Chapter closed!!!!!
Raila must be History to be learned at University of a socialist in the bush Not Yet Baba. He is coming back in 2022 to face WSR. By then he will be 77, full of wisdom and ready for a fight and one more okuyu to screw. In 2013 he screwed SKM, 2017 did the same to Jimmy and i suspect in 2022 he will screw another okuyu big time. For Baba elections ae big business opportunity and he will never miss that bus. I think there's bad blood between baba and WSR. I don't think WSR forgave him for abandoning him at the ICC. There's just too much bitterness there and with the 2 tribes already fighting over some border somewhere
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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There is a video doing the rounds, Baba's history in rejecting elections using same narrative. Have to say it's a funny one. i.am.back!!!!
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