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KenyaRe FY19 - FY23 (Both Inclusive)
Angelica _ann
#461 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2020 6:34:17 PM
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sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
i hope this is not among the assets in kenya Re's Bal sheet

https://www.nation.co.ke...twitter_impression=true

Kenya Re has made a counterclaim against Scenaries Limited, asking for a fresh transfer of the title for the parcel it bought, or else the firm should pay Kenya Re Sh6.5 billion and damages for breach of contract


I am lost in the story. What are the facts?:

1. Kenya re was sold fake 97 Acres of land for 550m by KANU mt. Kenya mafia i.e. all 550m lost; or
2. Kenya re bought 97 acres which included 5 Acre Karura land i.e. Kenya Re was only conned 5 acres but has genuine 92 acres?


Scenario 1; Kenya Re has a fake title and therefore lost everything ..... if the story is true, which I think it is.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#462 Posted : Sunday, May 24, 2020 9:27:12 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
i hope this is not among the assets in kenya Re's Bal sheet

https://www.nation.co.ke...twitter_impression=true

Kenya Re has made a counterclaim against Scenaries Limited, asking for a fresh transfer of the title for the parcel it bought, or else the firm should pay Kenya Re Sh6.5 billion and damages for breach of contract


I am lost in the story. What are the facts?:

1. Kenya re was sold fake 97 Acres of land for 550m by KANU mt. Kenya mafia i.e. all 550m lost; or
2. Kenya re bought 97 acres which included 5 Acre Karura land i.e. Kenya Re was only conned 5 acres but has genuine 92 acres?


Scenario 1; Kenya Re has a fake title and therefore lost everything ..... if the story is true, which I think it is.


Scenario 2;If DCI has his way SK Macharia will be declared bankrupt/insolvent if he's found guilty/unable to raise the money.His Royal media empire taken over by powerful forces
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#463 Posted : Monday, May 25, 2020 1:48:39 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,101
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
i hope this is not among the assets in kenya Re's Bal sheet

https://www.nation.co.ke...twitter_impression=true

Kenya Re has made a counterclaim against Scenaries Limited, asking for a fresh transfer of the title for the parcel it bought, or else the firm should pay Kenya Re Sh6.5 billion and damages for breach of contract


I am lost in the story. What are the facts?:

1. Kenya re was sold fake 97 Acres of land for 550m by KANU mt. Kenya mafia i.e. all 550m lost; or
2. Kenya re bought 97 acres which included 5 Acre Karura land i.e. Kenya Re was only conned 5 acres but has genuine 92 acres?


Scenario 1; Kenya Re has a fake title and therefore lost everything ..... if the story is true, which I think it is.


Scenario 2;If DCI has his way SK Macharia will be declared bankrupt/insolvent if he's found guilty/unable to raise the money.His Royal media empire taken over by powerful forces

Kenya Re is not at risk. This is an old case which has been in the news/papers earlier.

Prudently, Kenya Re should have, and probably has, removed it from its assets until there is a final resolution. It's like writing down an asset.

Kenya Re will eventually get a judgement against Scenaries Ltd or a new "clean" title for the land.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#464 Posted : Monday, May 25, 2020 1:53:03 AM
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This Karura land matter has been ongoing for years. Wachana na kelele ya chura. Kenya Re cannot lose any more except for lawyers' fees but can get upto 6.5bn in value though this can take many, many years.

https://abacus.co.ke/new...ver-prime-nairobi-land/

From the 2018 Annual Report
43. INVENTORY PROPERTY – GROUP and COMPANY
Cost: 918,077,000
Less: Impairment provision (918,077,000)

There was no movement in impairment provision for inventory. The impairment allowance mainly relates to inventory properties that are currently in dispute and are subject to ongoing court cases.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
heri
#465 Posted : Monday, June 08, 2020 5:47:00 PM
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https://citizentv.co.ke/...vid-19-pandemic-334859/

Regional based re-insurer Kenya-Re has projected a Ksh.1 billion revenue hit from increased claims and rebates on premiums as businesses globally seek to negotiate their contracts with underwriters and re-insurers.

According to Kenya Re Managing Director Mr. Jadiah Mwarania, the five per cent hit will be ‘the worst case scenario’ for the corporation in the wake of anticipated business losses occasioned by the pandemic.
Ericsson
#466 Posted : Tuesday, June 09, 2020 6:52:51 AM
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https://www.reinsurancen...s-loss-due-to-pandemic/

Good financial reporting and forecasting
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Ericsson
#467 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2020 8:40:53 PM
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Dividend book closure was today
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#468 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:00:19 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#469 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:01:53 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?


Subject to appointment of Auditor General.
A substantive holder is expected to be in place by July 1
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#470 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 9:45:16 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?


Subject to appointment of Auditor General.
A substantive holder is expected to be in place by July 1


Asante
Life is short. Live passionately.
Angelica _ann
#471 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 10:11:01 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
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sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?


Subject to appointment of Auditor General.
A substantive holder is expected to be in place by July 1


Asante


July 1, won't happen considering the interviews are not yet done.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#472 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:36:57 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?


Subject to appointment of Auditor General.
A substantive holder is expected to be in place by July 1


Asante


July 1, won't happen considering the interviews are not yet done.


Interviews ended last week
June 3 and 4th
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Angelica _ann
#473 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 11:48:47 AM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
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Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?


Subject to appointment of Auditor General.
A substantive holder is expected to be in place by July 1


Asante


July 1, won't happen considering the interviews are not yet done.


Interviews ended last week
June 3 and 4th


Haiya behind 'our' backs. smile smile smile Anyway let them appoint we move on. I guess it doesn't even matter anymore!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ericsson
#474 Posted : Saturday, June 13, 2020 6:47:15 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,684
Location: NAIROBI
Angelica _ann wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Dividend book closure was today


What is the payment date for our 10 cents?


Subject to appointment of Auditor General.
A substantive holder is expected to be in place by July 1


Asante


July 1, won't happen considering the interviews are not yet done.


Interviews ended last week
June 3 and 4th


Haiya behind 'our' backs. smile smile smile Anyway let them appoint we move on. I guess it doesn't even matter anymore!!!


No it was on media wewe ndio hukusoma
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
VituVingiSana
#475 Posted : Sunday, June 14, 2020 5:13:55 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
young wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Kenya Re FY 2019 my projection is an EPS of ksh.1 or Profit After Tax of ksh.2.8bn
Dividend per share of ksh.0.25-0.3 post bonus issue.
Price range post release of the FY2019 results ksh.7-8


"Kindly" expect 10 cent div next year with EPS of 65 cents. Reinsurance sector is at distress coupled with lack lustre GOK owned management .


The Match: HT results/preview in Sep 2019 but final results TBA in Mar 2020
Contestants: Young vs Ericsson
EPS: 0.65 vs 1.00
Dividend: 0.10 vs 0.25

@young Applause Applause Applause
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Ericsson
#476 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:26:13 AM
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Kenya Re AGM postponement
https://mobile.twitter.c...3153858131439620/photo/2
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
sparkly
#477 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:11:09 PM
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[quote=Ericsson]Kenya Re AGM postponement
https://mobile.twitter.c...153858131439620/photo/2[/quote]

Is 10 cent dividend on course or is also postponed?
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Ericsson
#478 Posted : Thursday, June 18, 2020 2:22:48 PM
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sparkly wrote:
[quote=Ericsson]Kenya Re AGM postponement
https://mobile.twitter.c...153858131439620/photo/2[/quote]

https://pbs.twimg.com/me...at=jpg&name=360x360

Is 10 cent dividend on course or is also postponed?

Also postponed.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#479 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2020 9:04:28 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
FY2019
profit before tax increased by 35% from ksh.3.1bn to ksh.4.18bn due to high gross premiums written,significant growth in the share of profit from investment in associate in Zep Re and gains on revaluation of investment property.
Asset base grew by 14% from ksh.44.36bn to 50.36bn
The board of directors recommend a dividend of ksh.0.1 per share

Link:https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-companies/company-announcements/issuer-announcements.html

10 cents, what a joke!
d'oh! Laughing out loudly d'oh! Laughing out loudly d'oh! Laughing out loudly d'oh! Laughing out loudly
The stated EPS is 2.55 but the there is a 2bn FV Gain on Revaluation.
Any info?

The FV gain on revaluation was the Mbagathi way land.
Part of it was sold to NLC and KURA for construction of the upper hill to mbagathi way link road which has been completed and open to motorists
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Ericsson
#480 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2020 9:09:50 AM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
sparkly wrote:
heri wrote:
i hope this is not among the assets in kenya Re's Bal sheet

https://www.nation.co.ke...twitter_impression=true

Kenya Re has made a counterclaim against Scenaries Limited, asking for a fresh transfer of the title for the parcel it bought, or else the firm should pay Kenya Re Sh6.5 billion and damages for breach of contract


I am lost in the story. What are the facts?:

1. Kenya re was sold fake 97 Acres of land for 550m by KANU mt. Kenya mafia i.e. all 550m lost; or
2. Kenya re bought 97 acres which included 5 Acre Karura land i.e. Kenya Re was only conned 5 acres but has genuine 92 acres?


Scenario 1; Kenya Re has a fake title and therefore lost everything ..... if the story is true, which I think it is.


Scenario 2;If DCI has his way SK Macharia will be declared bankrupt/insolvent if he's found guilty/unable to raise the money.His Royal media empire taken over by powerful forces

Kenya Re is not at risk. This is an old case which has been in the news/papers earlier.

Prudently, Kenya Re should have, and probably has, removed it from its assets until there is a final resolution. It's like writing down an asset.

Kenya Re will eventually get a judgement against Scenaries Ltd or a new "clean" title for the land.


In their financial statements/books,they have stopped listing ownership of the parcel of land
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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