MugundaMan wrote:nairobby wrote:MugundaMan wrote:The expressway is not only highly needed it is inevitable from an economic perspective. Anyone who has slept on Mombasa road due to jam that blocked this corridor in the past can tell you that for free. It is funny how many argue that SGR is not "breaking even" yet are yet to tell us if Southern Bypass has "broken even" given zero shillings are collected from it yearly. Public goods like expressways and railways are not gauged by how they "break even" but by how much they create economic efficiencies and spillover benefits that are economy wide that add to GDP. Why do these Ferras think our economy has been growing at an average of 5% plus since 2002. From planting and selling beans? Has Sasumua dam broken even? What about Nyali bridge? The cabro pavements in the CBD, have they broken even or have they helped you walk more efficiently to work instead of wallowing in mud and spending extra money to get a shoe shine? Have the public footbridges on Mombasa road that cost hundreds of millions of shillings "broken even"? Tukiinya twetu tweli tuna tuwatu twa maanjabu tena Sana.
1. SGR is going to cost a trillion shillings
2. It was touted as a project that would pay for itself, read the "feasibility report" that China itself did, which we now know was hogwash.
3. A 3rd world country borrowing that kind of money to build a railway (which is archaic technology anyway) while people die hungry and schools/hospitals are in a dire state is nonsensical at best.
4. Thika Road feasibility study explained what its economic benefits would be, essentially how it could explain its cost.
5. Research first and understand things, these are billion dollar projects not a cabro pavement to your house.
1. So? Putting into calculation the multiplier effect of SGR on the economy. How many trillions has it generated economy-wide? 40k direct jobs alone is not mandazi you eat for breakfast. Research how much SGR has added to GDP before useme gitu.
2. SGR is teetering on the brink of breaking even on cargo, and it is not even getting warmed up yet
. Wait till it fikas Champarra.
3. Ati Kii?
what is nonsensical is to believe you can feed everybody and provide First World healthcare and water to everyone without a competitive, growing economy courtesy of projects like SGR to foot the bill. China's proven model of build infra efficiencies first has no match in the world today. Your type of thinking belongs in communist Russia of the 1950s.
4. Asante. SGR is almost there as well. Be patient.
5. Nothing worth responding to hapa
Shalom.
1. How much has it added to the economy? Give me figures, attach statistical reports from relevant bodies too. 40k direct jobs
support your claim with facts
2. The same SGR govt is paying 1b a month to run is "breaking even"?
give me a break! It can't even make enough money to sustain its operations
3. SGR cannot even afford to pay for its own operations and you think it will generate economic benefit to such level
We are spending all this money on a train and you think we can't feed our own people! It's more than enough for that
4. A $5billion investment can't explain it's benefit but you want patience. Laughable. It is even more expensive than road now, only way it is surviving is by forcing importers to use it
5. It is a pointless project with 0 value for money. It would only make sense if we made Uganda pay for it from Naivasha since they are the only ones who will benefit